you're an idiot to let this drag on like this. the fact that you like notorious ice's ideas scares me, those aren't tactics you want to take if you want a serious relationship. you're just trying to get her back for the sake of getting her back, not to save your ruined relationship, which, i have to say, was doomed from the start, from what i got from this tread. notorious ice, your advice contradicts itself as this thread progresses. i'm not sure if you're advocating fighting, trying to prevent it, or what. but you're advocation of alcohol at young ages is uncalled for, as it seems to be a major player in the OP's problem