yeah hah, i was starting out with some scatter brushing, but it didnt look good. and i was playing around with c4d's and nothing looked good. i just couldnt figure out what to add to it. i was having big troubles thinkin on this one :P Are there any C4d's in it I can't see any. As for CC the render isn't blended all that much and the black line around it doesn't help. Other than that though it looks fairly good. Background is pretty plain though.