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In RSC, and even early rs2, nobody thought anybody would max all skills to 99, and they were making threads like this trying to make accurate guesses about the future. The fact of the matter is that Jagex keeps updating, and things get easier and/or faster. A perfect example of which would be the fact that several level 3s are running around with 99 slayer now because of a loophole in a minigame. That was never "supposed" to happen as far as "WE" the Runescape community were concerned. It only takes one update like that to screw everything up, and then its suddenly the norm after a while. The amount of people with 200m xp has increased almost exponentially since the first person maxed less than five years ago.Especially considering skills like cooking have barely changed (as far as best training methods go) since 2005. Even when I maxed thieving in early 2007, I never thought I'd see the top 10 get filled, let alone the first page.. let alone the second..... So lately I'm starting to see 200m as the new 99. In some cases, if you take it back to 2004 the amount of maxed players now is almost proportional to the amount of level 99s in the same skill back then. I mean, I've even heard people say that 200m cooking is nothing.. Are you kidding me? Nobody seems to acknowledge the issue that the high-ranks are basically closed off.. but that's another issue for another thread. lol... I can go on and on and on.

Gloves of silence doubled the xp per hour rate of pickpocketing knights of ardougne when they came out (at level 99). 100k xp per hour vs 220k xp per hour (if you're really paying attention) It was to the point where, before gloves, when I had to bank I was having ~100k gp in my inventory, after gloves sometimes I hit 800k gp. Although I brought more than one pair with me, but still. I think it's less noticeable at lower levels and almost pointless to use at lower levels. I already had 99 when they came out, but it's from what I've gathered from what other people have said. I mean I am talking three years ago but I somehow doubt that they've been nerfed again since then. /200m thieving

we can probably look at it from a different perspective. Both you and I come from a time long before capes, so 99s tend to have a different meaning to us, where as the new generation (within 3 years.. that's a long time now on rs, quite honestly) see the capes as the achievement and not the 99. It can make us cringe.. but that's where my comment about "training past 99" comes into play. I feel as though training past 99 is the same concept as 99s were in the past. Back whenever, prior to skill capes, 99s were like... pointless pretty much (ignoring smithing). You would see threads where people would be "going for 95 mining" for example. now it's "expected" that somebody is going for a 99. A 99 was that "extra mile above and beyond" that people thought was cool but wasn't in the forefront of somebody's mind (FOR THE MOST PART). Like what was the point of 99 herblore or crafting other than liking the skill? I'm talking in general here, back then there were not nearly as many maxed players compared to now so you didn't meet somebody with almost all 99s every day, so planning on "maxing out" didn't occur very often. I remember a friend of mine being like ranked 120 overall and still having skills in the 70s and 80s.... anyway... back to my point. What's the point of going past 99 other than liking the stat? It's that extra above and beyond that nobody cares about except you (for the most part, again) No it isn't always only for the capes obviously. Talking in general here, and how the capes have affected "runescape society" and the opinion of 99s as a whole. Have you ever been told that "it sucks you're f2p bc you don't get your capes?" ... I'll be kinda surprised if you haven't. Oh and off topic but.. i will never understand when people say this. yea, the game is fun and anything fun is a stress reliever, but to me calming and relaxing is like getting a massage or sitting in the hot tub after a long day with no distractions.. Lol

It's 100% because of skill capes. People cared for 99s "back then" but 99s weren't "mandatory" like they are now in the eyes of the general runescape community, if you get what i'm saying. Has it really been 3 years? W/e.. honestly, if having 99s don't seem like a big deal to somebody anymore, then go over the XP required. imo if you actually like a skill you won't stop training it right at 13,034,431....

+1 hehe Umm the holiday events take like 15 minutes if you know what you are doing. I was exaggerating, and I actually beg to differ. I can clearly remember running around painting baubles for an hour one year to get those god damn hats and the puppet that nobody cares about. Or the first easter event with the tunnels (egg ring, i think), was extremely long too.

Idk. It would take a lot of money to get me to give somebody my account, hypothetically speaking obviously. but if it were held hostage, I wouldn't pay much for it... lol

It's probably a combination of that and the fact that they want to use members features in holiday events for the members, and they don't need to make a second version for f2p in order to leave those aspects out of it. Personally, I dislike the holiday events. They take too long. Where's my santa handing out yoyos when you had to do nothing but talk to him? Really. I don't want to spend an hour painting baubles.

I didn't read through all 8 pages - and i think i'm going to get a lot of flack for this post, but so be it. Going by Zarfot's calculations.. WOW.. I've definitely played more then that.. I just calculated - 4000+ hours... :-# I really don't know how to respond to this thread without shooting myself, as well as people I'm friendly with, in the foot... No, not everybody in the high ranks is a nerd, but from personal experience, i would say that you probably will not find the polar opposite either (your stereotypical jock/pretty boy). Although, people with high ranks are generally stereotyped, when in reality, if you take 20 random players who have a top 10, and 20 random players in general, you will probably get the same group of people, if you get what I'm saying. Bar the age difference, because I highly doubt you'll find many 13 year olds in the top ranks. We've all had our 12 hour days though.. so it's not fair to pin the people with high ranks as the people with no lives, because also from personal experience, I've known people who play a TON and get virtually NO WHERE because all they do is stand around as opposed to concentrating on their gameplay.

I only skimmed the thread, so if it's been said, sorry, and maybe Fey Warrior can agree or disagree with me on this.. but.. Basically, I can remember a time when I was dead set against allowing any F2P player post on the RSOF in its entirety, and I don't really use the forums anymore even though I'd still go down in a fire for them, but I know that the forums are somewhat less active then what they were a couple years ago. I can remember seeing high numbers on the active user count, and last time I looked those numbers dropped. It's not like any f2p players can post, there are requirements. It really is not a big deal, and it does add more active users who can at least participate in discussions in a mature way. Although I don't think that if, for example, a player with 12.5 million experience that is a member, and then cancels membership, should be allowed to post...

Excuse me for bumping an old thread, but considering that somebody mentioned my name, I feel the need to post. I don't know if you posting my name was sarcasm or not, because obviously I'm not very well known. I don't try to be though, actually, in the past I've tried NOT to be. It doesn't really take much to become "famous" on this game. All it takes is something unique about yourself that stands out, and then you have to self-promote usually, even if it's only subtle. Some players do achieve some level of recognition without doing a thing, but the people that remain a "household name" (Not to be taken literally) are for the most part the ones who are very social in game, wear their capes, make sure everybody knows what they are doing... whether it be on youtube or in an achievement thread.. that's all it takes nowadays. With the exception of some, obviously. There's always exceptions.

Well, after all, she does believe in creationism. This is SO funny and made my night. LMAO.

Excuse my ignorance because I could be very wrong, but does Jagex not pay miniclip and wildtangent for advertisements? Wanna know what else someone showed me. Brace yourselves. MTV Runescape

So you want me to go get 76 fishing or 91 rc just to get to lvl 40 in a different skill? Its totally unrealistic that lower leveled players will be able to make any gain whatsoever from this skill. I was referring more to people whining about money then what it has to do with the summoning skill.. but if that's what it takes for someone to make money then whatever. There are other ways of making money then what I listed and everyone knows that. If you don't like the skill or the amount of cash it takes don't train it. You act like you have to or are forced to train it. And if you want to train it, go make money.

What I don't understand is how people whine about how they have no money or can't afford it. "Omg i have bad luck in monster drops!" Pick up a harpoon and shark fish? So what if it's slow? it's still money? Get your runecrafting to 91 and make fast money that way? The game is not limited to monster drops. You people act like it's impossible to make money on this game. This isn't real life. You aren't bound to bills and taxes and other obligations with your money. You answer to yourself when it comes to spending the money that you do get.

It has no money making potential and the combat potential appears very low since you can only use it in multi. It's not that we don't want to work for our XP it's that it's 90% of RS can't afford to get it over level 70. 90% of rs can't afford to get a partyhat either. But yet.. people don't whinge about it, they ''envy'' them and "oh i wish i had a partyhat". In the time it would take an average player to get 99 summoning, he could be making money while summoning. Do people not remember that monsters drop clues and drops? I'm sure since this stat is SO slow, while people are getting the charms the monsters they kill will also drop expensive items. Especially if slayer is used.

It's good Jagex has done something different. Now it shouldn't be so "easy" to max all your stats to 99. (I say easy because more and more were popping up, I know it isn't easy at all and it takes a lot of work and time, so the trolls out there who would have probably quoted me and said "How can you call that easy?".. Don't bother, because that isn't what I mean.)

If you don't like the skill, stop whining, and don't train it. Simple as that? Yeah I think so. Especially for the lot of you that keep commenting on how "useless" the skill is and how it doesn't offer any substantial gain in anything (highest monster hitting 19 or whatever). It's different - Get over it, it's not cooking, which for god's sake almost has the entire front page full of people with 200m xp in it, which takes a whopping 3 months to do if using sharks.

You just fail. Or at least your post does. You so totally don't get the point. Adicolorz, I DECIDED to make a loss, so I had more time. That's my right, I guess? Crafting is not an easy cape, I suggest you try it. I don't mind work. I do mind this skill. If something is expensive, you should be able to do it faster. Like Construction. It's expensive, but it's incredibly fast. Rc'ing is slow, but a big gain. But, Adicolorz. I DON'T get why you call my 99 easy, when you only got Hunter. Now that's an easy skill, and there are much more Hunter Capes then Crafting capes. But ontopic now. Crafting is an easy cape ..lol.. Ok it takes some money, probably about 50m now because the prices of hides went back to normal from the gold farmer recession. Tanning yourself is still 120k xp an hour which is fast compared to a lot of other things. Hunter is the same amount of xp per hour, but it's free. So =; to whoever thinks hunter is better.

Hehe. Called that one aye? he calls a lot of false things too, but when they don't happen no one notices ;) anyways, i need to train my meelee up so I can get 138 i'm thinking this will be my new goal :uhh: 99% of the updates I say do eventually happen, examples: Jagex controlling the market & rare prices Pest Control being fixed (in a good way, it's good now). PKin as we know it removed (everyone laughed when I said that) Godswords and the Necromancy skill (aka Summoning), if you paid attention to my other posts, you'd know the next skill too :thumbsup: ] Be a doll and predict what you think the starting tutorial island combat level will be.

Hmm what is going to be the starting combat level now?

Awwwwwwww all that work at pc for nothing. gf.

Yeah, try not making up rules. Nowhere does it say you can't do that. Taken from runescape rule 7: What is AFK Training? AFK training is Away From Keyboard training. While you are playing on RuneScape, you must be at the computer. Away from keyboard training is not allowed, and you should log out when you leave the computer. If you are looking at the forums you are also not playing the game as it should, and believe me I asked Jagex about this and they replied to me this is counted as AFK training First of all, looking at forums or any other websites is just fine. Going to the toilet is just fine too. What they don't want is someone standing at bandits with guthans and auto-retaliate on, and just going on with their merry way around the house while their character levels up. Show us proof of their reply + even if you did happen to have proof, it is still not true. Most jmods don't know what they are talking about tbh. They are assigned to a specific area of the game and typically know most about that specific part. The people to ask would be the jmods listed in the "FUll Credits" knowledge base article as the ones who watch over all the moderators. And they will tell you it's fine.

Thats exactly what I was saying, that level 123s with skill capes on probably shouldn't be obligated to talk but if you're a level 5, with a crazy name, chopping yews, you shouldn't be mad when people suspect you of botting or macroing. But really I don't understand what you have against talking, just saying 1 or 2 lines then stop talking, I don't think thats too outrageous. No it's not outrageous, but that's not the point. That's like if you have to twist a doorknob a strange way to open the door, it's not outrageous or hard to do, it is just aggravating. It's also not as though one person a day calls me a bot, it's more like one in every three people that pass by.

I shouldn't have to be obligated to talk just because some moron thinks I might be autoing. We shouldn't HAVE to respond.. see thats what you don't seem to understand. I don't want to respond, to some moron, because he thinks I'm a bot. Honestly if I'm out in a random yew tree with no clothes on and a rune WC axe, that would be one thing, but for the most part I've got a skill cape on and I'm in SHILO village. Thats when you know that it has gotten out of hand. I don't think I'm being unreasonable for not wanting to respond to the mindless babble of "omg bot". I'd rather someone just shut up and report me before talking and trying to "make sure I'm a bot", because I'm not macroing so I know I'm not going to be banned. The main reason I don't respond at all is because 9 times out of 10, it leads to other questions that actually do take up my time, or someone who doesn't believe me. I actually had a moron believing that I was a bot until a moderator came, because I started talking in public when he showed up. The real story was I am friends with the moderator and he wanted to come see the idiocy. And to the people, who are like "it doesn't matter their level or what they look like they could be macroing": That's true, but the random level 100 who thinks he will be slick and macro a part of the game, isn't the type of bot ruining the game. He will most likely be caught anyway because he's actually macroing.. It is the gold farmers that are ruining the game, and those are real people not bots.

Um why exactly? If you post a rant you can't bar people who disagree with you from posting. That makes for a one sided discussion. And no I don't support. I agree with what someone else said in an earlier post about how everyone is putting what they are selling at the lowest price, that could cause problems, but other then that no. You can sell your items another way if you don't want to pay or sell for a certain price. The grand exchange is, in fact, not the only way to trade items.