warri0r45 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 b1b13 0wnz sc13nc3 n00bz!!!11!1...... Seriously though, your right it is guess work, but where are you trying to go? The knowledge of where we are going at death and where we come from seems meaningless to me, because what do you do with that info? I see it as choosing a way to live, a path if you will, and there is no path, at least that i have seen, in science. Because I don't need a path to know how to be a good person. I choose to live for the world, for it's people. I wish to understand it through science, especially in the field(s) of physics (only a Junior in high school right now though >_<). Every once and a while I can entertain the idea of an afterlife and Heaven, but I'm not going to base any opinions of mine off daydreams. I don't care what happens after I die. I live for this world, not the next. Ok, thats all that matters. I just see to many people use science as an excuse not to be a good person. Just be careful not to blame science because some people use it as a shield. It's purpose isn't to breed bad people although I'm tipping you know this. Hell. Can't be that bad, right? :wink: Hell yeah! It's got all the heavy metal. :twisted: :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arizark Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 ill probably get stuck in limbo im incredibly evil but on the other hand im extremely good so ahwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Bacon_Man Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Yes. I'll piss off "The Higher Power" ( I just prevented a flame war \ ), and he'll/she'll/it'll send me to Hell. But you know, I'd be sent back and forth throughout the aeons. Tetris is about using the equal force of the working power to build up the glorious people's republic of Russia.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodl Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Heaven or hell? Take a test and find out. http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.mv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdragon Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Heaven or hell? Take a test and find out. http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.mv Took that a while back. I got limbo or something, like Level 1, where all the philosophers were. Though I'm fairly young, (i.e. not currently sexually active). I'll be up to Level 7 once I get out of this stupid Jesuit high school and into a frikking co-ed college :!: :-w . [Damn I use that whistle emote a lot...] [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman089 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Apparantly I belong in the 3rd level of hell.. Gamertag: King Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korskin Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I'm saying that one would have to be pretty stupid to not know good from evil, and the precedents and examples just make it that much easier to know how to be the "ideal" good person. So the first one, I suppose. People don't always do the right thing, that's common knowledge. We generally know what the right thing is to do, but for one reason or another don't do it much of the time. Either way, we don't "need" someone to tell us right from wrong once we're old enough. Anyways, what are you getting at with your questions? I don't see where you're going. I think I'm wondering if you think good or bad is something you must learn. And if so what decides if it's good or not? Sidenote: Ended up in Purgatory according to the test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Heaven or hell? Take a test and find out. http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.mv 6th level of hell for me. :shock: The city of 'Dis' which, coincidentally, is a level in the original DOOM game. So I may like it there. :anxious: ...if I had a shotgun or a plasma rifle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continuum Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Eh, I believe that if you deserve to go to "Hell", you just get sent back to Earth to try, try again. What kind of God would abandon his creations to Satan, hmm? Might not go to Heaven after this life though. Might. *shrug* Funny, your saying you won't believe in God, won't trust what his son did for you to save you.. but your definatly hoping he will re-send you back to the earth for a second chance, otherwise he doesn't care? And to be sent back for what? You already said you didn't believe the first time.. hoping to believe Jesus the second time and strike it lucky? It doesn't sound like God is abandoning you, it sounds like your abandoning God.. "Well maybe God will let my life this time around be for Satan, and then next life, i might see what he is up to, and go for good. Gotta keep the balance ya know.." Where did you get that logic.. ~Defender~ I'm sorry, but what the hell are you talking about? If your referring to me being an atheist, I'm not anymore. I decided I don't believe in the Catholic Church, but I believe in God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. If you're somehow assuming that I didn't accept God in my first life or whatever, God'll probably help me see the error of my ways. If one chooses to live their life on Earth rather than spend it with God in Heaven, that's their choice, but I think that, eventually, one will get in. You know why? God loves us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargo_VI Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 If one chooses to live their life on Earth rather than spend it with God in Heaven, that's their choice, but I think that, eventually, one will get in. You know why? God loves us. Yes, God love us. This verse shows us how much. "(Joh 3:16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." However, only those who believe in him will not perish. Jesus himself declared that. "(Joh 14:6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." And to reply to your thought about reincarnation.. "(Heb 9:27) And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:" This verse speaks for itself. You only die once and so you only have once chance until the judgment. You don't "eventually" get in. No where in the bible does it say anything about that! What it does say is that you'll be standing before the judgment seat of Christ. If you accepted him or not, it's up to you. If you have a goal, go for it :D Work hard, be proud and be yourself ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continuum Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Eh, I just don't think God would abandon us to Satan because we were stupid. What happened to all of his talk about mercy and forgiveness, hmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Eh, I just don't think God would abandon us to Satan because we were stupid. What happened to all of his talk about mercy and forgiveness, hmm? That's where I have issues (although the fact that hell is merely 'without god' and not some mythical demon lake of fire type place helps). We are't all that bright, in comparison to god and all. We make mistakes. We follow the wrong things and devote our lives to the wrong things because we all, in our finite minds, *know* we are right. What if that yearning for truth sends us to some firey pit for eternity? (even though it's good to hear it's likely nothing like that). Fair? Essentially, we all want to know the truth. We all feel we do and it would seem we were made/evolved to do just that. If, for some sadistic reason, the consequence of this is to burn in the lake of fire in agony and misery for eternity, I'd be royally peeved. Thus why the idea of hell being 'without god' seems much more sensible and fitting and in which case, truth be told, I'd get what I deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuBai Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Hell. Because I don't belive in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death_By_Pod Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I personally have an affliction to apprehend the knowledge which thou entertain. Sorry just finished watching Jack Sparrow on the tele. Anyways. I'm sure there will be at least one maestroa that will inform us there is no heaven or hell, but we need to wait around for him to tell us. We are to naive to know the truth for ourselves. amirite? So are you going to heaven or hell? Oh hey I'm going to create another religious thread because the people in the last one trolled me and I cried until mummy locked it. To answer your question a pastor once told me that I'm going to hell because I'm a 'homosexual'-enabler. Heaven ----- That's racist. And, Satenza... are you quoting Scripture just to be annoying? Just looking online at that verse, a footnote said that "generation" could also mean "race". That's racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Eh, I just don't think God would abandon us to Satan because we were stupid. What happened to all of his talk about mercy and forgiveness, hmm? If he didn't put a little shred of doubt in people's minds they'd all be running amock. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Eh, I just don't think God would abandon us to Satan because we were stupid. What happened to all of his talk about mercy and forgiveness, hmm? If he didn't put a little shred of doubt in people's minds they'd all be running amock. The world is already running amock. You just have to look at the last couple of days latest news too see that, let alone a year or two back and so on. I think you've over-looked the fact that everyone has free-will, and if people decide to reject God than he won't return any favors considering hes given us the greatest favor of all already, that being forgiveness and eternal life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_hobbit22 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 heaven and hell is on earth, be a horiblke person people will hate you, you will hate being alive.. welcome to hell. etc. if there is an actual heaven or hell when i die then i want to have a major sit down with the bloke who decides it, because there will only be one relegious group going there. a good 75% of the worlds population wont be going, so at least ill have company! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauke Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Hell or heaven is just one big hoax, so I'm not going anywhere, just six feet under. Twitter ||| Google+ ||| Facebook ||| LinkedIn ||| My very interesting weblog about science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXru1n3dXx Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Heaven or hell? Take a test and find out. http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.mv Hah I did that a month or two ago. Apparently i'm going to the fourth level. Just before the river Styx is the Fourth Level of Hell. Here, the prodigal and the avaricious suffer their punishment, as they roll weights back and forth against one another. You will share eternal damnation with others who either wasted and lived greedily and insatiably, or who stockpiled their fortunes, hoarding everything and sharing nothing. Plutus, the wolf-like demon of wealth, dwells here. RS Stats | BF2 Stats | ARSCV | LastFM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamemonster Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Heaven or hell? Take a test and find out. http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.mv Hah I did that a month or two ago. Apparently i'm going to the fourth level. i did the same quiz but im going to the Seventh Level of Hell\ Guarded by the Minotaur, who snarls in fury, and encircled within the river Phlegethon, filled with boiling blood, is the Seventh Level of Hell. The violent, the assasins, the tyrants, and the war-mongers lament their pitiless mischiefs in the river, while centaurs armed with bows and arrows shoot those who try to escape their punishment. The stench here is overpowering. This level is also home to the wood of the suicides- stunted and gnarled trees with twisting branches and poisoned fruit. At the time of final judgement, their bodies will hang from their branches. In those branches the Harpies, foul birdlike creatures with human faces, make their nests. Beyond the wood is scorching sand where those who committed violence against God and nature are showered with flakes of fire that rain down against their naked bodies. Blasphemers and sodomites writhe in pain, their tongues more loosed to lamentation, and out of their eyes gushes forth their woe. Usurers, who followed neither nature nor art, also share company in the Seventh Level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_Jokes Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Neither. The idea of Heaven and Hell makes me believe that God does not exist. As the idea of the two influences human behavior, thus, lack of free will. Unless, of course, God is this controlling being... This post is somewhat confusing to me... I don't believe God is a controlling being. But, also, I think that he judges actions we make. Without Heaven or Hell, wrong things we do would go unpunished. Heck, a major reason Jesus came to Earth was to rescue us from Hell. The idea of him judging our actions is enough to make a person change. The idea of me going to heaven and hell will force me to 'behave.' When the person changes, he doesn't change because he wants to, he changes just to avoid punishment, or in other cases, has to. And that is not free will. Proud founder of the Myriad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdavies90 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I'm going to nowhere.....seriously i think the most realistic religious belief of life after death is rebirth.....it just seems the most logical (other than nothing happening) the rest just seem way too farfetched. as for heaven or hell, i highly doubt anyone here would go to hell unless they did something incredibly bad in the future, most people would go to purgatory Sig by me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 6th Level of Hell, good job i don't believe in this fairytale! With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchdreams Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Looks like I'll be heading to 6th level too, alongside all the other 'heretics' on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Too Far Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 i don't beleive in god, heaven and hell. Thoug i do think that maybe there is somthing (god/goddes) but because i can't know what this is i will not live my live trying to worship somthing i don't know is the good thing to worship. (maybe christiantity is right, maybe the islam is right, maybe yewish is the good way to go. you can't know.) And also if there is a god/goddes then i would not worship it because why would a god create people to worship him? that kinda egocentric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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