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I'm okay with it as long as it doesn't get out of control. I've heard drinking can cause anger problems... I know Ryan drinks a bit, and today we were playing basketball. I stuffed him and he punched me in the ribs, then when i was guarding him he shoved me so i grabed him and he elbowed be in my stomache and knocked the wind out of me. Hes getting pretty aggresive latelely. Personally its pissing me off the he thinks just cause hes bigger than me he has the right to shove me around and beat the crap out of me. If I were you Ryan, I'd stop before you lose your car for reasons you know already... :shame: :-w

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I think a lot of people who are saying "underage drinking is okay as long as you are responsible" are just naive. They think they can handle it when in reality they often times probably can't. I mean I'm no expert on alcohol and I've never been drunk, but I'm sure a lot of people can't really help doing dumb things when they're drunk.

 

 

 

Perhaps you should try it before commenting on it.

 

 

 

Granted, people do stupid things on alcohol but people I hang out with are, for the most part, responsible. You learn to realise drinking because you enjoy the drinks and to socialise while concious is more fun than drinking to get hammered beyond belief. It's not exactly like other drugs where there is a definate one-size-fits-all result. In other words, not everyone downs half a carton and feels the urge to go pee in a cop car or jump of a roof or whatever. Even when drunk, most people I know of realise that's a total party ruiner. Don't let movies shape your perception on what alcohol does to people.

 

 

 

People do stupid things w/o alcohol too ;)

 

 

 

Of course. :P The kind of things you'd think they'd be doing after a carton, but nope, some people can do stupid things and persist at doing stupid things while sober. :wall: :P

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I think a lot of people who are saying "underage drinking is okay as long as you are responsible" are just naive. They think they can handle it when in reality they often times probably can't. I mean I'm no expert on alcohol and I've never been drunk, but I'm sure a lot of people can't really help doing dumb things when they're drunk.
You just contradicted yourslef there mate =D>

 

Care to explain how I CONTRADICTED myself, mate :thumbsup:

 

 

 

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I think a lot of people who are saying "underage drinking is okay as long as you are responsible" are just naive. They think they can handle it when in reality they often times probably can't. I mean I'm no expert on alcohol and I've never been drunk, but I'm sure a lot of people can't really help doing dumb things when they're drunk.

 

 

 

Perhaps you should try it before commenting on it.

 

 

 

Maybe I don't feel any need to try it? I'm entitled to my own opinion whether or not I've been drunk before. The original post was asking where my stance was on underage drinking, and I gave it.

 

 

 

I personally don't really understand drinking to socialize. I have plenty of fun with my friends without alcohol. I don't really feel like I've really heard any understandable excuse to be drunk.

 

 

 

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I think a lot of people who are saying "underage drinking is okay as long as you are responsible" are just naive. They think they can handle it when in reality they often times probably can't. I mean I'm no expert on alcohol and I've never been drunk, but I'm sure a lot of people can't really help doing dumb things when they're drunk.
You just contradicted yourslef there mate =D>

 

Care to explain how I CONTRADICTED myself, mate :thumbsup:

 

I think it had something to do with the whole "naive" part.

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I think a lot of people who are saying "underage drinking is okay as long as you are responsible" are just naive. They think they can handle it when in reality they often times probably can't. I mean I'm no expert on alcohol and I've never been drunk, but I'm sure a lot of people can't really help doing dumb things when they're drunk.
You just contradicted yourslef there mate =D>

 

Care to explain how I CONTRADICTED myself, mate :thumbsup:

 

I think it had something to do with the whole "naive" part.

 

 

 

If I was naive, I wouldn't have realized or said that I was no expert on alcohol and that I've never been drunk, right?

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I think a lot of people who are saying "underage drinking is okay as long as you are responsible" are just naive.

 

 

 

How can you call us naive on the subject, when we have drank and you haven't? It's the other way around.

 

 

 

They think they can handle it when in reality they often times probably can't.

 

Ignoring the fact that "they often times probably can't" doesn't even make sense, In reality you have never been drunk before and have no idea what it is really like. If you have no idea what it is like, don't just decide to assume you do.

 

 

 

I mean I'm no expert on alcohol and I've never been drunk, but I'm sure a lot of people can't really help doing dumb things when they're drunk.

 

 

 

It doesn't require an expert. Just somebody that has either experience or common sense, preferably both.

 

 

 

When you drink, your blood/alcohol level goes up, proportional to the amount of you have drank. You can't drink a little and then get wasted. So once a responsible person has drank a little, and knows it has no effect they drink a little more, and more until they are at the level they want to be.

 

If we take this a step further, someone who has drank before already knows about how much they had last time, and what happened. So instead of drinking little bits at a time, they can drink more at a time, because they are learning how much they get drunk from how much alcohol.

 

 

 

I will give you an example of me drinking, and doing very irresponsible things because apparently I am so naive on the subject and have no idea on how much I can handle.

 

 

 

Two nights ago I went to a little get together. I drank almost one bottle of Jack Daniels most of it straight. (About 18 or 19 drinks) A friend who is quite small and hasn't drank much before had 7. He was throwing up for at least an hour, and couldn't stand up by himself. This was unexpected, I had no idea I would have to take care of this friend. Since I knew from experience how much I can handle, and only drank that much, I was still sober enough to give him a new shirt, give him some water and carry him to a bed, then check up on him a few times.

 

 

 

Because I was responsible, a situation in which he could have easily choked or drowned in his own vomit, or fallen over and hit his head or something worse, was taken care of.

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I think a lot of people who are saying "underage drinking is okay as long as you are responsible" are just naive. They think they can handle it when in reality they often times probably can't. I mean I'm no expert on alcohol and I've never been drunk, but I'm sure a lot of people can't really help doing dumb things when they're drunk.
You just contradicted yourslef there mate =D>

 

Care to explain how I CONTRADICTED myself, mate :thumbsup:

 

 

 

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I think a lot of people who are saying "underage drinking is okay as long as you are responsible" are just naive. They think they can handle it when in reality they often times probably can't. I mean I'm no expert on alcohol and I've never been drunk, but I'm sure a lot of people can't really help doing dumb things when they're drunk.

 

 

 

Perhaps you should try it before commenting on it.

 

 

 

Maybe I don't feel any need to try it? I'm entitled to my own opinion whether or not I've been drunk before. The original post was asking where my stance was on underage drinking, and I gave it.

 

 

 

I personally don't really understand drinking to socialize. I have plenty of fun with my friends without alcohol. I don't really feel like I've really heard any understandable excuse to be drunk.

 

 

 

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I wonder why? You are entitled to your opinion, it dosen't make it any more valid than someone who has experience with alcohol, though. I'm wondering how sure you really are that alot of people can't really help doing stupid things while drunk, having had no experience being intoxicated. Do you get that from movies or your friends? If it's the latter, how old are they?

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I pity people that feel the need to respond to peer pressure submitting themselves into a vulnerable, weak state of mind in order to appear 'cool'. When in reality they end up looking like complete idiots.

 

 

 

um...there's a difference between a self desire and giving into the desire of others my friend.

 

 

 

No there isn't, unless you're telling you drink on your own, like you for example play a video game on your own. Judging from your earlier example you don't drink on your own and in actual fact, yes you are vulnerable to peer pressure :roll:

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I'm in year 10 (turning 16) and easily the vast majority of my year group drink/have drunk alcohol before. In Australia it's pretty lax i reackon, 80% of parties there will be alcohol, but no-one really gets drunk, everyone is pretty responsible, and considering none of us can drive (without at fully licensed person in the car) drink driving isn't a probem that we've had to face. I go to a expensive catholic highschool in the well off part of sydney btw, so it's not as if we are all drunk kids dropping out of school at 16 and living on the streets. That may have been a bit of an exageration, but you get the point.

 

 

 

Even the cops aren't that strict about it really, if they see you drinking in a park or something they will just come over and tip the drinks out, and send you on your way. Legal drinking age is 18 here btw, if you didn't know. I can understand in America why i would be such a 'cool' thing to do, the age being 21, and people believing that it's 'cool' to break the rules etc etc, i spose thats why it's not such a huge issue over here. Although there will always be the teens who get smashed every weekend without fail, and i reackon thats just stupid personally, you destroying your body. Everything in moderation i reackon.

 

 

 

My parents don't really care, aslong as it's not too often and i don't really get drunk and i'm safe etc.

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(Im 17 and live in the UK, where drinking age is 21.)

 

 

 

No it's not, it is 18. I'm also 17 no one really cares all that much as to underage drinking when your only a couple months away from 18. Although last night i was challenged to stay dry all night to see if it was fun. Watching drunk friends staggering around the place isn't fun :P

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my stance: It's alright as long as it's done responsibly. Also, not too often. I've drank more than a few times, but I've never gone to the point where I was throwing up all over the place.

 

 

 

my parent's stance: Alright as it's done responsibly. Don't let me drink til I'm 16 which is next year (drinking age is 19 here).

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Can't underage drink in England @P Legal age is 5 lol.

 

 

 

My mum and dad's stance: A bottle of beer once or twice a weekend wont do any harm

 

My stance: A beer or two every weekend?

 

My friend's stance = the same as mine.

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I pity people that feel the need to respond to peer pressure submitting themselves into a vulnerable, weak state of mind in order to appear 'cool'. When in reality they end up looking like complete idiots.

 

 

 

um...there's a difference between a self desire and giving into the desire of others my friend.

 

 

 

No there isn't, unless you're telling you drink on your own, like you for example play a video game on your own. Judging from your earlier example you don't drink on your own and in actual fact, yes you are vulnerable to peer pressure :roll:

 

 

 

or not? i drink cause i want to. peer pressure is drinking for the sole reason your friends are pressuring you to or you feel left out. and there are times when my friends drink and i don't drink at all...so you're wrong my friend...just another person who is speaking without experience

 

 

 

also there were times when i had beers in my fridge in my dorm and after a long day i watched TV with 1 beer the whole night.

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my stance: personally i think its ok to drink as long as you do it responsibly and know the consequences of what can happen when you drink certain amounts. id say its alright to have a few drinks a couple of nights a week and at special occasions such as parties and outings with friends then its acceptable to drunker than usual.

 

 

 

my parents stance: basically the same as mine so long as i tell them where i am and what im doing. there basically pretty chilled out parents so long as im open and honest with what i do, which suits me :D

 

 

 

i think we have an alright stance on it all round as they know that im (usualy) very responsible and as im quite a large lad, and used to my ale, which means i very rarely get drunk enough to be stupid.

 

 

 

(btw im 16) (and leagal drinking age is 18) :D

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ive been drinking since i was 13(in my house/others/centerparcs Lol) not like a chav on the street and well hasnt [bleep]ed me up at all, infact it takes a stupid ammount to get me wasted now im so use to it, im only 17 now so had a few years experience + i go on rugby tour's and stuff people are more laid back about this shiz in england, my parents let me drink and except it to be part of life, all my freinds drink and encourage each other to do stupid things

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Well, a lot of young kids are very impressionable and will just drink because older friends are doing so, and they want to seem like a rebel. That statement will probably cause a lot of them to jump on me like white on rice, but oh well. In Europe kids can drink inside the home from when they are very young and they can learn to drink in moderation in a safe place. I believe if here in America it was the same, there would not be a typical drinking binge on one's 21 birthday.

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I don't have a problem with it...

 

 

 

I did it, so did mostly everyone else i know. And i have no regrets i had some great time whilst being absolutly smashed lol. Started drinking when i was 15.

 

 

 

Nothin much just like 8 cans with my mates on a saturday, and we all had a great time. No one drank because they were forced to, we did it because we wanted to.

 

 

 

But now that im 18, i find that when me and my mates i used to drink with from bein 15, i find we are much more sensible and able to handle what we drink than those who didn't drink.

 

 

 

Example: 8 cans to us now, gets us tipsy but were fine. But some people we know who only started drinking when they were 17, have like 4 cans and are on their knee's being sick. These are the one's who usually end up paraletic and end up causing trouble as they have no clue as to their limits.

 

 

 

In England, we seem to be much more relaxed about drinking than in other countries were people freak out if you have a beer and your "only" 19!!!! how dare you!

 

 

 

Only problems is... now that im older, if i wanna get smashed i have to drink like 18 pints in order to do so lol :lol:

 

 

 

Underage drinking doesn't bother me really as long as its done sensibly :wink:

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I think a lot of people who are saying "underage drinking is okay as long as you are responsible" are just naive. They think they can handle it when in reality they often times probably can't. I mean I'm no expert on alcohol and I've never been drunk, but I'm sure a lot of people can't really help doing dumb things when they're drunk.

 

Sit in a corner and think about what you've just said.

 

 

 

Reading that post is akin to listening to a homeless man ranting about a movie he's never seen. Or a child whinging about how politicians screwed his mortgage over with their income tax cuts.

 

 

 

I don't care if it's "just your opinion". It's uninformed. It's absurd. It's wrong.

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So I'm 18 and a senior, and I'd say about 90% of my school drinks in some way, shape, or form. I myself am against it. I hate the idea of lowering the drinking age to 18. Most of my friends drink, a few don't. My parents both don't care if I drink, just I'd have to be responsible. I really don't mind if people drink underage, but when I have to deal with them when they do, I can get angry pretty quick.

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I'd say about 90% of my school drinks in some way, shape, or form.

 

 

 

I'd say 100% of living people drink in some way, shape, or form. :lol: [/hide]

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think there should be a drinking age, but instead a public drinking age. That way, private drinking in someone's home would be acceptable.

 

 

 

I drink, though only with meals, and rarely to party. Even with my short stature and low body weight, I have yet to get a buzz.

 

 

 

My view:

 

I'll do it with freinds, as long as I'm confident I won't get caught, and I'll drink anything my parents give me.

 

 

 

Parent's view:

 

They just want to know if I do amd when.

 

 

 

Freinds:

 

No one cares strongly in either direction.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not confident about it, but I'm pretty sure theres a moderate ~16-18 drinking age in lithuania, but no one cares. During a visit last summer at 13, my grandparents let me drink in their apartment, and waiters served me beer in restaurants.

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I won't even drink, for one I hate pucking and being sick so thats pretty much out of the question. Another reason is my brother got so drunk (Hes 16) that his blood alchol level is 0.2 from him dying, the nurses had to rub his chest with there knukes for three hours to keep him breathing. His chest was pure black the next day, talk about hurt. :|

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