Danqazmlp Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 I can't say much on this topic as its pretty self-explanitary, but are the behind the scenes and all the pre-warning of upcoming updates actually a good thing? Now more than ever with the new "Developmental Diary" update, we see, know and hear about updates WAy before they happen. Some may say this is good, we can prepare for the update etc. But, personally i think all this warning of the updates is a BAD thing. Why? because its so much more FUN to be suprised by an updated, for example, POH, we had no warning about them (except the orsf thread but it wasnt really expected was it), and how much praise did jagex get for that? Quite alot. I also think that with there being so much time from jagex announcing an update and it actually coming out, people have too much time to badmouth an update, and put it down before they even see it, and if content is delayed (wilde tag), jagex are sort of stuck, as people will moan if they do not make it, but currently, i think, jagex have no way of actually implimenting it into the game. But my main point, is that personally, i find it so much more FUN to have an update come out of the blue and suprise me, than knowing about it upto 4 weeks in advance. Whats your views on all the pre-warning? Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlanders Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Pre-warning is good for business I think. Just look at all the people training slayer for the new bows, maybe Jagex got a couple of new members on the way to. I'd prefer getting surprises aswell. 2480+ total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrington Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 I like the idea. Suppose they'd posted this six weeks ago, then perhaps the hunting and slaying areas wouldn't be quite so untrainable as they are now due to overpopuation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcoolj Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 BTS are great - they tell us what to expect each month, and also allow for surprises. What more could you ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkn0wnwarrior Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 I believe that BTS is both good AND bad. It gives some warning with respect to what is coming, but it also leads to crowded training areas in some occasions... Over all, I would rather not have it, but since it is there, I read it on occasion. For the sake of debating, however, I take the side of good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi9im8Here7 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 I like seeing as far ahead as I can. The BTS usually doesn't tell you alot about the update anyway, so you're still suprised most of the time. Besides it's not good business for Jagex. The announcements about future updates are designed to get free players to sign up for p2p out of anticipation and to convince members to stay. The only bad thing is when they promise something spectacular and it turns out to be a total disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freesia Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Just seeing it as bad personally. Worse when they specifically put a lvl requirement to some good update, then everyone trains that skill. With BTS there will be a lot of people that just picks on every word they say and start making ridiculous assumptions that is coming out, eventually spreading as rumours and gets accepted as truth and increasing their expectations. Then updates come out not as the one they expected, then? rants flood the forum board. There will always be people that will keep creating and creating thread about some seemingly good section update of BTS when it is also not out anytime yet, these irritate me IMO. :roll: Surprise updates out of blue is always good, either way both ways is always open to stupid rants arising Strangely with WotLK so near, I wished I could delay it a bit to push through that last TBC content in MH/BT :'(. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinoking Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Behind the Scene pwnts because it perpares me O:) I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gin_and_Tonic Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 I personally dont like any idea or information of future releases... I mean, look at POH's... We heard about them years before they were actually released - which annoyed a few people they took so long to come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
book_of_metal Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 i personall don't like it, every1 is now at the hunter spts cuz they released that there will be dragon arrows and you need 83 hunter. now i'm having a hard time lvlin' Check out my 50M+ Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi9im8Here7 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Just seeing it as bad personally. Worse when they specifically put a lvl requirement to some good update, then everyone trains that skill. With BTS there will be a lot of people that just picks on every word they say and start making ridiculous assumptions that is coming out, eventually spreading as rumours and gets accepted as truth and increasing their expectations. Then updates come out not as the one they expected, then? rants flood the forum board. There will always be people that will keep creating and creating thread about some seemingly good section update of BTS when it is also not out anytime yet, these irritate me IMO. :roll: Surprise updates out of blue is always good, either way both ways is always open to stupid rants arising Lol people will always believe stupid things. Just look at the Future Updates forum on the official forums. :lol: And rants will always flood the forum board. It's natural tendency for people to find something to complain about, especially for the kind of people who play MMORPGs. I rant alot myself, but lately i've been trying not to complain about every little thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJE03 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 My opinion is that telling the players about upcoming updates can cause them to hype it up to the point that it will not meet their expectations which creates disappointment when the actual update is released. Patience is a virtue and if players just wait and see what updates they are going to get without a behind the scenes, I think they will get more enjoyment out of it. [spoiler=Stats:]Updated December 22, 2011: Total level - 1442 - 170M+ XP , Combat level - 115Combat skills: Attack - 90, Defence - 99 (24.45m+ XP), Strength - 90, Constitution - 99 (16.42M+ XP) Ranged - 99 (13.32M+ XP), Prayer - 60, Magic - 99 (13.25M+ XP)Non-Combat skills: Cooking - 99 (13.80M+ XP), Woodcutting - 99 (31.95M+ XP), Fishing - 90, Firemaking - 99 (24.82M+), Crafting - 90, Smithing - 90, Mining - 85, Runecrafting - 60, Dungeoneering - 85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi9im8Here7 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 The bts is a good way to give players a reason to hope, but not when they're hopes aren't fufilled at the end of the month. It's partly because players often expect too much, and partly because Jagex gives too little (at least in some cases). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acero Frio Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Behind the Scenes and the Development Diary are very necessary elements of the website, if not the game itself. I, for one, like to know what to expect each month, but I don't have crushed hopes if what I thought was going to happen doesn't. Why? Simple. I don't make assumptions about what's going to happen. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkn0wnwarrior Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Behind the Scenes and the Development Diary are very necessary elements of the website, if not the game itself. I, for one, like to know what to expect each month, but I don't have crushed hopes if what I thought was going to happen doesn't. Why? Simple. I don't make assumptions about what's going to happen. :)I must disagree. They are not necessary at all. Runescape would not all of a sudden die out if they removed it. It is a nice read and it is nice to know whats coming up, but to say it is necessary is over-doing it a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted June 9, 2007 Author Share Posted June 9, 2007 Behind the Scenes and the Development Diary are very necessary elements of the website, if not the game itself. I, for one, like to know what to expect each month, but I don't have crushed hopes if what I thought was going to happen doesn't. Why? Simple. I don't make assumptions about what's going to happen. :)I must disagree. They are not necessary at all. Runescape would not all of a sudden die out if they removed it. It is a nice read and it is nice to know whats coming up, but to say it is necessary is over-doing it a bit. Your right unknown, they did not always have behind the scenes, updates just came as the came Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real ET Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Somethings should be announced beforehand to give people time to prepare (like tha dark bows and arrows), while other things (like skills) are so much better as a surprise to all. Personally I think the Varrock update should have been a surprise, that would have made it so much better. :D Cowards can't block Warriors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazimcgee Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 I believe that they should not tell us about an update. :? For example the recent behind the scenes with the dark bow and the dragon arrows (heads) :o The people who are committed to getting 99 hunter have had their progress faltered becuase of the hunter boom caused by this coming update. :evil: These people are profit seekers :shame: (most of the time) rather than commited people aiming for that ultimate goal :thumbsup: Me being one of those 99 goalers :thumbsup: Sn'C Events Team Member942nd to 99 hunter 2/8/07|26,042nd to reach 99 fletching 27/10/07|Quest Cape Achieved 22/1/08|50,000th to 99 Cooking 29/10/08Dagannoth King Drops: 7 Zerkers 2 Axes 3 Warriors | Armadyl: 1 hilt first ever trip and kill | Barrows: 2 Dharok Legs 1 Ahrim Skirt 1 Torag Helm 1 Guthan Spear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi9im8Here7 Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 I don't think that Jagex should've released the exact skill requirements, but a nice hint into what they're developing is just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone_els Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 There was a poll during the week of September 11, 2006 concerning how much information Behind the Scenes articles should offer. The popular vote at 45% was "I would like to be told everything as early as possible!" I had the opposite stance; I loved how our only hint that the long-awaited Construction skill was coming in May '06 was the tiny, one-sentence paragraph at the end of the BTS article: We are also adding some other smaller features to the game later this month, such as clockwork toys for your cats, teleportation tablets, making your own cups of tea and even chairs you can sit down in. In contrast, the hunter skill was very bluntly announced at the beginning of the following November. Unexpectedness certainly makes for a better spice. The Once and Future Quest Guru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyehawk78 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I think BTS should not give away as much infomation as it does. For example take the Dark Bow update, I think Jagex should have only released information along the lines of This month we will be releasing a powerful new bow, the 'Dark Bow', which will able to fire a new highly anticipated arrow obtained from a new minigame This way, players can speculate and discuss ideas, which is a hell of a lot more exciting than giving away every detail. I know this way probably leads to more rants but heck, I'd like to be surprised by something. Website Updates & Corrections | Website Discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T. Skill Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Pre-warning is good for business I think. Just look at all the people training slayer for the new bows, maybe Jagex got a couple of new members on the way to. I'd prefer getting surprises aswell. +1 IMO, I think it really just depends on the update. The POHs weren't really pre-warned right before they came out but there were plenty of little hints about them. But with things such as the Dark Bows and Dragon Arrows you saw a lot of people who started training Slayer and Hunting like there was no tomorrow. And I don't doubt that Jagex picked up more than a few members from that. Pirate Rosetta stone. Learn a language while you scape.Sounds interesting, but these days how many people really speak Pirate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlordjl Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I dislike the BTS, personally, but I do believe it's a double-edged sword. Most times, Jagex sugarcoats the updates, making it sound better than it turns out to be, leading to widespread discontent. However, it is a reasonable business strategy, as it entices F2P members into wanting membership and it keeps people paying that one extra month. Personally, I like surprises. I do not think the DFS was even mentioned in the BTS, but it turned out to be an awesome update for high levels. Such things shouldn't be mentioned in the BTS, as it's my opinion that if Jagex says nothing, there are no predetermined expectations of the item. Therefore, Jagex will please far more people with whatever they release, as they are not expecting anything spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sithlord_man Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 its good in a way becasue it gets you worked up and trains for what coming. if there was none of that then people would be unprepared for updates and start asking 'why now?' so basically BTS is a good thing. without as i said would suprise people is that you don't know the update leading you to queestion and you jsut wait and see. 99 FM Acheived on Friday December 26th 2008Click for my blog|Mass Effect Discussion Thread|Nation Creation/Create your own Country Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 it's worked since 2005, this time around, they've been giving too much info... they're made to give us info about what to expect. this month they showed us what the bow would look like, what would drop it, and what would be fired from it and how to get those. I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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