Ryuuka Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Well i was playing castle wars the other day waiting for the game to start. I see 2 people using offensive language at each other and calling each other noobs. Since i like to help people i go an say "would you please watch your language?" They stop shouting at each other but then one of the 2 start to yell at me that i am a mod wannabe and that i should just "[get away]" since i don't like being spoken to that way i reported him and then moved to the other end of the waiting room. While i am waiting for the game to start a lvl 46 walk to me and ask why i bothered to stop those "noobs" that made me think was it really worth it? should i really just have leave them to argue and then have kept waiting for the game to start? An other time i was walking in around near Lumbridge castle when a lvl 27 runs to me and ask where he can get a mithril plate body i knew i had one in bank so i said "wait here" and quickly ran to my bank and get one for him. I ran back and gave him the plate body then he just walked away without even saying "thank you" so the big question comes again... did i do the right thing? should i just have told him "go make your own money and buy one"? or should i have told him how to make money for 1 and then leave it at that? There are of course some great people out there, i once asked my friend if he wanted to buy some stuff from he he said yes and we agreed to meet... the only problem was the he was getting items for a treasure trail (a mith scim and a ruby amulet) i knew once again i had most of the items in bank so i say i can make it for him if he wants "0mfg ye4h thanks!" was the answer so we agree to meet in falador where we make the trade and i he gives me a ruby for the amulet i make the amulet and then we continue to dorik's anvil where i smith him a mith scim. we make the trade and we are both happy. i wont question the last one since i know he will give me the favour back sometime. i have just read "you. do you change your passion for glory? =(" thread and i think it is the same here. do we help people for the sake of helping or to fell better then those we are helping? should we even help people or should we let them find out them self and learn the extra few things that way? can we expect people to do something for us if we do something for them? or should we just hope they do something for someone else? come with your input to the subject "Being nice... is it really worth it?" thanks for your time good input: Sometimes I give some stuff away. In the past when newbies asked me to guide them somewhere I would give them a couple of k's when we got there for fun, I mean, it wasn't much but they still liked it and that's what it's about. Recently while thieving the fur stall I met some newbie. I dropped all furs and he would pick them up and collect a big amount to sell in varrock.... We chatted a bit and we added each other. I expected him to beg, as all newbies seemingly do, but he just chatted, asked for advice and had fun. He never once asked me for something, he died, but instead of asking me for stuff he just asked for a good method to gain money and get back on his feet. A little while ago when I passes white wolf mountain I found a death-pile. Full addy g and some other random things. I waited 15 minutes for the guy to reclaim it, but he never came. I just found the pile, I didn't see him die, so I had no way of giving it back. So I got on my way and stored it in my bank, wondering what I should do with it. Some time later I completed contact! and was happy since I had heard some people say it was very hard.. I was so happy I decided that since he was the first newbie on my friendslist who had not begged in any way, I would give the addy to him. So I called him over and told him to follow me when he saw me at the bank, as I didn't want people to see I gave him free stuff, since that would attract the newbies like well, newbies to high lvls... :P We had a few laughs about how I was supposed to be a pervert luring him to a quiet spot... And I gave him the addy g, 300k, a rune scimmy and some mith stuff I got from drops, as he couldn't yet use the addy. That just made his day, or week. It's no big amount to me, but as long as he is happy I'm happy. I then decided I would try to be a bit kinder to newbies as not all of them are begging little fiends. Usually when I'm busy and someone at falador asks me to bring him to the grand tree I just say sorry and leave. I think from now on I will try a bit harder to be nice to them and just make some time to bring them there. In my experience it's things like this give me a sparkle of hope. That by being kind we can kind of spread the wub around. :P It is worth it, I was nice to a friend (I didn't give much free things etc but I gave advice or quest help if they needed) and I got rewarded with this :D That person was quiting so wasn't gonna use the money. They have sort of come back and I have offered 800k back but they don't want it :) If that's the kind of stuff you're hoping for from being nice then I think you're actually money hungry, not nice. :shame: Being nice may have some reward but don't go around trying to be nice to everyone in hopes for some cash. *This is not directed towards matthew_t_d, but rather people that think they'll get rewarded form being nice* Played since February 200113th to 30 huntingfiremaking cape achieved 6th August 2008_-_-_-_Quest cape achieved 19th August 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold_Tiger10 Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 When someone is breaking the rule, I usually keep my mouth shut and just report them. If there that immature to break a rule in the first place, why even bother saying anything to them? I think that how that person accepted that mith platebody and then walked away without saying thanks was pretty damn rude. But what can you do? Just ignore people like that, and have fun playing the game with friends. here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyMcNabb Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 I always help people whenever I can but only those who deserve it, before I help them I make a descision whether or not they'll say thanks afterwards, for instance I was playing cwars and some randomer I got talking to needed a shield.. I said I think I have one, and gave her a rune heraldic I'd gotten from a recent t trail, too lazy to sell and didn't really need it and she was over the moon. Just pick who you want to help carefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuuka Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 I always help people whenever I can but only those who deserve it, before I help them I make a descision whether or not they'll say thanks afterwards, for instance I was playing cwars and some randomer I got talking to needed a shield.. I said I think I have one, and gave her a rune heraldic I'd gotten from a recent t trail, too lazy to sell and didn't really need it and she was over the moon. Just pick who you want to help carefully. that was very nice of you indeed best i've done was to give a rune skirt (g) to my friend because he needed money for his dragon chain(he is def pure) Played since February 200113th to 30 huntingfiremaking cape achieved 6th August 2008_-_-_-_Quest cape achieved 19th August 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raylifes Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 I'm one lazy guy and I remembered a topic kind of like this from quite a long time ago, so I'm just going to quote myself from that topic. :wink: Sometimes I give some stuff away. In the past when newbies asked me to guide them somewhere I would give them a couple of k's when we got there for fun, I mean, it wasn't much but they still liked it and that's what it's about. Recently while thieving the fur stall I met some newbie. I dropped all furs and he would pick them up and collect a big amount to sell in varrock.... We chatted a bit and we added each other. I expected him to beg, as all newbies seemingly do, but he just chatted, asked for advice and had fun. He never once asked me for something, he died, but instead of asking me for stuff he just asked for a good method to gain money and get back on his feet. A little while ago when I passes white wolf mountain I found a death-pile. Full addy g and some other random things. I waited 15 minutes for the guy to reclaim it, but he never came. I just found the pile, I didn't see him die, so I had no way of giving it back. So I got on my way and stored it in my bank, wondering what I should do with it. Some time later I completed contact! and was happy since I had heard some people say it was very hard.. I was so happy I decided that since he was the first newbie on my friendslist who had not begged in any way, I would give the addy to him. So I called him over and told him to follow me when he saw me at the bank, as I didn't want people to see I gave him free stuff, since that would attract the newbies like well, newbies to high lvls... :P We had a few laughs about how I was supposed to be a pervert luring him to a quiet spot... And I gave him the addy g, 300k, a rune scimmy and some mith stuff I got from drops, as he couldn't yet use the addy. That just made his day, or week. It's no big amount to me, but as long as he is happy I'm happy. I then decided I would try to be a bit kinder to newbies as not all of them are begging little fiends. Usually when I'm busy and someone at falador asks me to bring him to the grand tree I just say sorry and leave. I think from now on I will try a bit harder to be nice to them and just make some time to bring them there. In my experience it's things like this give me a sparkle of hope. That by being kind we can kind of spread the wub around. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuuka Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 I'm one lazy guy and I remembered a topic kind of like this from quite a long time ago, so I'm just going to quote myself from that topic. :wink: Sometimes I give some stuff away. In the past when newbies asked me to guide them somewhere I would give them a couple of k's when we got there for fun, I mean, it wasn't much but they still liked it and that's what it's about. Recently while thieving the fur stall I met some newbie. I dropped all furs and he would pick them up and collect a big amount to sell in varrock.... We chatted a bit and we added each other. I expected him to beg, as all newbies seemingly do, but he just chatted, asked for advice and had fun. He never once asked me for something, he died, but instead of asking me for stuff he just asked for a good method to gain money and get back on his feet. A little while ago when I passes white wolf mountain I found a death-pile. Full addy g and some other random things. I waited 15 minutes for the guy to reclaim it, but he never came. I just found the pile, I didn't see him die, so I had no way of giving it back. So I got on my way and stored it in my bank, wondering what I should do with it. Some time later I completed contact! and was happy since I had heard some people say it was very hard.. I was so happy I decided that since he was the first newbie on my friendslist who had not begged in any way, I would give the addy to him. So I called him over and told him to follow me when he saw me at the bank, as I didn't want people to see I gave him free stuff, since that would attract the newbies like well, newbies to high lvls... :P We had a few laughs about how I was supposed to be a pervert luring him to a quiet spot... And I gave him the addy g, 300k, a rune scimmy and some mith stuff I got from drops, as he couldn't yet use the addy. That just made his day, or week. It's no big amount to me, but as long as he is happy I'm happy. I then decided I would try to be a bit kinder to newbies as not all of them are begging little fiends. Usually when I'm busy and someone at falador asks me to bring him to the grand tree I just say sorry and leave. I think from now on I will try a bit harder to be nice to them and just make some time to bring them there. In my experience it's things like this give me a sparkle of hope. That by being kind we can kind of spread the wub around. :P you just doomed your self to a life in the "good input" prison Played since February 200113th to 30 huntingfiremaking cape achieved 6th August 2008_-_-_-_Quest cape achieved 19th August 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Titan Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 From my experiance it isn't worth it on an online game as 9/10 times you'll be on the recieving end of abuse which is quite nasty i try to keep myself to myself on runescape and only talk to people if they are talking to me in a nice manner otherwise ill ignore them. Ex-Wilderness GuardianEx-Solace Retired from F2P clans indefinitely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phata_elise Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Well i was playing castle wars the other day waiting for the game to start. I see 2 people using offensive language at each other and calling each other noobs. Since i like to help people i go an say "would you please watch your language?" They stop shouting at each other but then one of the 2 start to yell at me that i am a mod wannabe and that i should just "piss off" since i don't like being spoken to that way i reported him and then moved to the other end of the waiting room. While i am waiting for the game to start a lvl 46 walk to me and ask why i bothered to stop those "noobs" that made me think was it really worth it? should i really just have leave them to argue and then have kept waiting for the game to start? In what way were you helping them? The two apparently had an issue, an issue you can't know about. If you really wanted to help them, you should have asked what the problem was and also asked if they would want your help to resolve the problem. By just saying something like "watch your language" is only meddling with their problems, not helping. And generally, sticking your nose in other peoples issues is not appreciated. An other time i was walking in around near Lumbridge castle when a lvl 27 runs to me and ask where he can get a mithril plate body i knew i had one in bank so i said "wait here" and quickly ran to my bank and get one for him. I ran back and gave him the plate body then he just walked away without even saying "thank you" so the big question comes again... did i do the right thing? should i just have told him "go make your own money and buy one"? or should i have told him how to make money for 1 and then leave it at that? Probably better :) He simply didn't appreciate your kind behavior. There are of course some great people out there, i once asked my friend if he wanted to buy some stuff from he he said yes and we agreed to meet... the only problem was the he was getting items for a treasure trail (a mith scim and a ruby amulet) i knew once again i had most of the items in bank so i say i can make it for him if he wants "0mfg ye4h thanks!" was the answer so we agree to meet in falador where we make the trade and i he gives me a ruby for the amulet i make the amulet and then we continue to dorik's anvil where i smith him a mith scim. we make the trade and we are both happy. i wont question the last one since i know he will give me the favour back sometime. i have just read "you. do you change your passion for glory? =(" thread and i think it is the same here. do we help people for the sake of helping or to fell better then those we are helping? should we even help people or should we let them find out them self and learn the extra few things that way? can we expect people to do something for us if we do something for them? or should we just hope they do something for someone else? come with your input to the subject "Being nice... is it really worth it?" thanks for your time There is nothing wrong with helping people. The tricky part is only helping those, who really want help and appreciate it. For instance, the best way of helping is giving advise and not just cash or items. Advice is there to stay, money and items are only temporary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharockslayer Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Helping those who seek advice isnt wrong in my book. 'Helping' people who ask for money or items can just go right into my ignore list. I try to be nice to the ones who deserve it. Like I mostly ask if they could share a hunter spot, if they reply no, I would just leave. But if they start the conversation with "OMG leave this is MY training spot, get your own" I would just sit there and have a laugh at all the things he or she throws at me trying to make me log out :lol: Theres no wrong with being nice. But don't be nice all the time, people WILL take advantage of it. Mark my words. Interrested in joining the cabbagy madness? Click here to go to our forums, and say hi ^^lol one of the biggest pvp updates of the year, and tip it is discussing granite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embraced Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Too many times i have given away armour, money, advice etc and not gotten a thank you. Yesterday infact i had 5k in my inventory and i saw a level 6 walking towards me with a wooden sheild, bronze sword and nothing of value and so i gave him the 5k and he just walked off. I dont mind giving that amount of money away because its not much to be but to them it would seem like alot but i HATE it when i give something and i dont even get a 'ty'. P2P offers more and better ways of making money than f2p. That's one of the cons you just have to play with if you don't feel like having 1 bigmac meal less per month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuuka Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 Too many times i have given away armour, money, advice etc and not gotten a thank you. Yesterday infact i had 5k in my inventory and i saw a level 6 walking towards me with a wooden sheild, bronze sword and nothing of value and so i gave him the 5k and he just walked off. I dont mind giving that amount of money away because its not much to be but to them it would seem like alot but i HATE it when i give something and i dont even get a 'ty'. AMEN! Played since February 200113th to 30 huntingfiremaking cape achieved 6th August 2008_-_-_-_Quest cape achieved 19th August 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 I think of myself as a quite helpful player, if someone asks me to take them somewhere but I'm too busy, I at least give them directions. If someone asks for something I have but don't need, I'll usually give it to them. And its quite often that my higher level friends look to me for help/advice, etc. It makes me feel fuzzy all over : catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuuka Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 I think of myself as a quite helpful player, if someone asks me to take them somewhere but I'm too busy, I at least give them directions. If someone asks for something I have but don't need, I'll usually give it to them. And its quite often that my higher level friends look to me for help/advice, etc. It makes me feel fuzzy all over : i would sure love to be your high lvl friend Played since February 200113th to 30 huntingfiremaking cape achieved 6th August 2008_-_-_-_Quest cape achieved 19th August 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyh7 Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Since we all seem to crave thanks for the good things we do, doesn't that defeat the point of doing a "selfless" act, since we want thanks in return? Just a seemingly random thought I had. From Friends. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirHartlar Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 When it comes to taking items as gifts and so forth, there are a LOT of selfish and greedy people out there. It might seem they are appreciative, but from my own experience a lot of people will just ignore you in the future when you want a conversation. That is the kind of things I want in return for helping people out, a good friend or someone to chat to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qeltar Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 If you decide to be nice.. you are doing it for yourself as much as the other person. Don't expect thank you.. just be happy that you are doing what you can to make the world a better place. IME, most people WILL be appreciative, so don't be upset by the few who are not. ~q Qeltar, aka Charles KozierokWebmaster, RuneScoop - Premium RuneScape Information for Expert Players -- Now Free!Featuring the Ultimate Guide to Dungeoneering -- everything you need to know to get the most of the new skill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimHams Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 No, i'm sarcastic and if you have a bad attitude to me i'll make fun of you. It works for me because i treat people as they treat me, if you're friendly i'll be as nice as pie. Don't give people respect they dont deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capone_Sabre Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 NO! 99.9% of the runescape populations lies, cheats and steals without thinking twice. The quality of the people playing runescape divebombed after rs2 was released and sunk even further with the miniclip generation. I am a nice person and I try so hard to help people but this week I have given up. Every single person I have helped on RS2 has tried to use me to get free stuff. Just today 2 people I thought I knew well showed their true colours. The only friends I have made since starting rs2 are high level, older players. I couldn't give a damn about people's level but it seems anyone lower than you does, and sees you as a target for their greed and nothing more. Capone Sabre since April 2001.99 Attack, Defence, Strength and Hitpoints Achieved January 2005. When it still meant something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuuka Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 NO! 99.9% of the runescape populations lies, cheats and steals without thinking twice. The quality of the people playing runescape divebombed after rs2 was released and sunk even further with the miniclip generation. I am a nice person and I try so hard to help people but this week I have given up. Every single person I have helped on RS2 has tried to use me to get free stuff. Just today 2 people I thought I knew well showed their true colours. The only friends I have made since starting rs2 are high level, older players. I couldn't give a damn about people's level but it seems anyone lower than you does, and sees you as a target for their greed and nothing more. i see that 99,9% of tif'ers also lie right? Played since February 200113th to 30 huntingfiremaking cape achieved 6th August 2008_-_-_-_Quest cape achieved 19th August 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyMcNabb Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 I always help people whenever I can but only those who deserve it, before I help them I make a descision whether or not they'll say thanks afterwards, for instance I was playing cwars and some randomer I got talking to needed a shield.. I said I think I have one, and gave her a rune heraldic I'd gotten from a recent t trail, too lazy to sell and didn't really need it and she was over the moon. Just pick who you want to help carefully. that was very nice of you indeed why thankyou.. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Being nice isnt always bad, you get respect (mostly), but there is a limit. Be selfless if you can afford and it won't make things too bad for yourself, but also dont make things to easy for others, you don't want them thinking they can get everything free, tell people to make thier own money like you had to sometimes, but don't let them become dependant on freebies. In arguments, i just try to stick up for the underdog lol, no matter what the lvl. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roose Bolton Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 When im at castle wars and i see people arguing i dont get involved, iv learnt its just better to stay out of arguments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimoHobo Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 do we help people for the sake of helping or to fell better then those we are helping? should we even help people or should we let them find out them self and learn the extra few things that way? I help because I feel it's the right thing to do. I don't help by giving items away, I help by telling them how to make money, how to get to wherever, how to start such and such a skill... Help a man to fish and all that... However, I won't break into people's personal arguments, their own business is their own business, no matter what type of langauge is being thrown round, I'll report and leave them to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaerehw14 Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Is it worth it to be nice? Yes. Is it worth it to spoon feed people while serving them find peices of armor on a silver platter lined with money? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestrana Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 I sometimes have my own Spontanious Moments Of Generosity and give items to a random person who's doing/finishing a quest. Most recently, I gave a partly used Super Set, yak-hide top and bottom, Fremennik Shield, 10 cooked Monkfish, 3 Prayer pots to somebody preparing to fight the Ice Troll King for Fremennik Isles. It was one of those "Oh, what the heck!" moments and I just decided to hook that guy up and send him on his way. Knowledge is Power; a Tip.it guide answers many commonly asked questions.~Celestrana: Making of a Hero ~ (Visit my blog, today!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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