What makes school the "right thing"?

[vladmoney]

They have done studies you know, I don't remember numbers exactly but it is said that money does buy happines to a certain extant. A family of 5, will only be happier with a higher income until $40k annual earnings. After that, happiness would not increase.

 

It is true money really doesn't buy happines, I mean plenty of rich people are misreable. Ofcourse there are plenty of rich people who are extremely happy they are rich as well. What people are saying is that, money doesn't guarentee anything. Money = happiness. What you do with the money can make it easier to achieve your happiness. If you spend the money to go on a trip with your kids and wife, you will be happy you had the money. If you spend your money to put your kids through school, you will be happy you had the money. I mean, I would love to be able to have money to take care of my mother after she retires, that would make me very happy. 50% of divorces are based on financial reasons, so if you have the money to avoid financial problems wouldn't you be happy.

 

Ofcourse school isn't just about getting to be rich, its securing a future. You won't be happy working in McD's, but even if you are able to get a half decent job, your future will be very unstable. You are more likely to become unemployed, and then have a harder time finding a job. School is there to secure your happiness, because the study above shows that money can buy happiness to a certain point. Ofcourse its not to say you can't be happy w/o an education, its just saying there is a higher chance that you will be happier with an education.

 

 

 

EDIT: oh and for people saying oh look at people living in the Third World Country, plenty of them are happy. There is a lot of grief and sickness there too, talk to someone who has been in places like those often. Its not to say people there don't find happiness, its just their happiness is more comprimising then our own. If you moved there right now, you would not be happy, as much as you like to think you might be.

 

 

 

@trapical: good point too many people have watched too many movies about stem cell research can lead too.

[Lovelydude]

Kill Thomas, can you tell me in all honesty, that if you sacrificed every possession and you own and love to go live on an island away from society and still remain happy?

[Kill_Thomas9]

They have done studies you know, I don't remember numbers exactly but it is said that money does buy happines to a certain extant. A family of 5, will only be happier with a higher income until $40k annual earnings. After that, happiness would not increase.

 

It is true money really doesn't buy happines, I mean plenty of rich people are misreable. Ofcourse there are plenty of rich people who are extremely happy they are rich as well. What people are saying is that, money doesn't guarentee anything. Money = happiness. What you do with the money can make it easier to achieve your happiness. If you spend the money to go on a trip with your kids and wife, you will be happy you had the money. If you spend your money to put your kids through school, you will be happy you had the money. I mean, I would love to be able to have money to take care of my mother after she retires, that would make me very happy. 50% of divorces are based on financial reasons, so if you have the money to avoid financial problems wouldn't you be happy.

 

Ofcourse school isn't just about getting to be rich, its securing a future. You won't be happy working in McD's, but even if you are able to get a half decent job, your future will be very unstable. You are more likely to become unemployed, and then have a harder time finding a job. School is there to secure your happiness, because the study above shows that money can buy happiness to a certain point. Ofcourse its not to say you can't be happy w/o an education, its just saying there is a higher chance that you will be happier with an education.

 

 

 

EDIT: oh and for people saying oh look at people living in the Third World Country, plenty of them are happy. There is a lot of grief and sickness there too, talk to someone who has been in places like those often. Its not to say people there don't find happiness, its just their happiness is more comprimising then our own. If you moved there right now, you would not be happy, as much as you like to think you might be.

 

 

 

That was very well put. And I'm sure a family of 5 would be much happier to live here with a decent income, than on some island, but if it is one or two people, it may be very different. With a family, if you die, you are letting someone down. Without one, if you die, it doesn't physicaly hurt anyone else.

 

 

 

 

 

Kill Thomas, can you tell me in all honesty, that if you sacrificed every possession and you own and love to go live on an island away from society and still remain happy?

 

 

 

Yes. But I would first have to learn how to live there. (ie. how to fish, hunt, skin/gut animals/fish, and cook them.

[vladmoney]

I don't believe this should be even discussed, this is like a scientific fact. What Thomas is saying is completely redicoulous, and has not grasp of what real life is really like in modernized and third world countries.

[Kill_Thomas9]

Not all countries were in poverty before the lightbulb was invented...

 

 

 

Just beacuse they dont have all of the modern technologies we have doesn't mean they are all living in poverty, about to die from starvation. And I didn't make this topic saying "we should all move to the poorest parts of Africa, and starve there so we dont go to school!!".

[Lovelydude]

Wow, you seriously have no comprehension of the limitless opportunity society offers you.

[Kill_Thomas9]

Modern society does nothing but prolong, unaturally, human life, and destroy the enviorment.

 

 

 

Just beacuse I have a different view on society, means I have no comprehension on the opportunity of society? Strange how people these days think.

[Lovelydude]

Modern society does nothing but prolong, unaturally, human life, and destroy the enviorment.

 

 

 

Just beacuse I have a different view on society, means I have no comprehension on the opportunity of society? Strange how people these days think.

 

 

 

You seem to ignore it at least. Within the boundaries of our current society, one can do almost anything they want if they put the effort in. In your fantasy world, your life would be even more routine and far more boring than having to attend school and there would be little to aspire to.

[Kill_Thomas9]

Modern society does nothing but prolong, unaturally, human life, and destroy the enviorment.

 

 

 

Just beacuse I have a different view on society, means I have no comprehension on the opportunity of society? Strange how people these days think.

 

 

 

You seem to ignore it at least. Within the boundaries of our current society, one can do almost anything they want if they put the effort in. In your fantasy world, your life would be even more routine and far more boring than having to attend school and there would be little to aspire to.

 

 

 

Even though it would benefit every other creature alive, and the worlds natural ecosystem.

[IGoddessI]

First of all, what is the point of living if you dont have fun doing it?

 

 

 

People say money cant make people happy, but why do we go to school? To get an education so you can make more money in life.

 

 

 

So I ask you, if money can't make people happy, why spend your life trying to make more money? What makes school the "right" thing to do?

 

 

 

 

 

Discuss.

 

 

 

Who's to say I'm doing it for the money? My purpose in life is to help others, the fact that I get paid for it, is an added bonus. I would still work helping kids even if there wasn't a salary attached.

[Bubsa]

"People who say 'Money can't buy happiness' don't know where to shop."

[Kilo]

Ok, I editing my reply in response to the other replies.

 

 

 

People die naturally. Medicine is unatural. If people survive at a higher rate than they would naturally, it upsets the balance of nature. Notice all the animals that go extinct? Many go extince either because people kill all of them physicaly, or we kill something they kill, causing them to starve, causing something else to over populate. There is a human over population.

 

 

 

And yes, global warming is natural, but people are accelerating it, in an unatural way. Polar bears are going extinct. They are already endangared. Dont tell me this is a natural cycle, because if it was, they would have gone extinct last time this happened.

 

 

 

Btw, grats on 99 (or almost 99) fire making.

 

 

 

Dude so instead of giving people medicine we let everyone die at the age of 35 again? We can't put animals above human beings. Human beings are more important than animals. I agree we can't just cut down the whole rainforest for more land we need to be more conservative, use resources we already have and recyle them.

 

 

 

50M says you got that polar bear thing from that stupid movie Al Gore (who uses many times more energy than the rest of us by the way.)made. Ever hear of the dustbowl in the 1930's? That was a result of years of drought. CO2 emmisions from cars are barely effecting the enviroment. Corn oil could fuel cars, but we can't use it because it would raise the price of corn so other countries couldn't buy it to feed their masses) Polar bears aren't going extinct that's just propaganda from enviromentalist so the government will fund their research.

 

 

 

Either way thanks on 99 firemaking, the smoke I burnt off in the atmosphere probably killed a few thousand penguins but I hate them anyway lol :thumbsup:

 

 

 

(Party is today, 7 pm EST, world 38, fally park)

[megakiller32]

Whoever says money cant make you happy is a liar.

[Adam007]

I really wish you went with your plan, were stuck on an island for a year, and then came back, posted here, with a heartwarming lesson-learned 20 paragraph post. But no, you'll talk about how you don't need any structured society, but you have no idea how fast you'd start missing things you take for granted.

 

 

 

In this utopia of yours, have you given thought to the fact that you're defenseless? Any day you could get raided or attacked. And it's not as nice as just going fishing every morning with the friends. It just doesn't work like that. It's not like a camping trip that lasts a life time. You'd enjoy this for like a week, but soon it would become work. You'd get tired of it all. You (or most people) would wish for more. Unless you truly wouldn't mind living 3rd world style.

 

 

 

But hey, you'll be 18 soon if you're not already, go ahead. Let us know how it works out for you if you ever come back to the real world.

[vladmoney]

They have done studies you know, I don't remember numbers exactly but it is said that money does buy happines to a certain extant. A family of 5, will only be happier with a higher income until $40k annual earnings. After that, happiness would not increase.

 

It is true money really doesn't buy happines, I mean plenty of rich people are misreable. Ofcourse there are plenty of rich people who are extremely happy they are rich as well. What people are saying is that, money doesn't guarentee anything. Money = happiness. What you do with the money can make it easier to achieve your happiness. If you spend the money to go on a trip with your kids and wife, you will be happy you had the money. If you spend your money to put your kids through school, you will be happy you had the money. I mean, I would love to be able to have money to take care of my mother after she retires, that would make me very happy. 50% of divorces are based on financial reasons, so if you have the money to avoid financial problems wouldn't you be happy.

 

Ofcourse school isn't just about getting to be rich, its securing a future. You won't be happy working in McD's, but even if you are able to get a half decent job, your future will be very unstable. You are more likely to become unemployed, and then have a harder time finding a job. School is there to secure your happiness, because the study above shows that money can buy happiness to a certain point. Ofcourse its not to say you can't be happy w/o an education, its just saying there is a higher chance that you will be happier with an education.

 

 

 

EDIT: oh and for people saying oh look at people living in the Third World Country, plenty of them are happy. There is a lot of grief and sickness there too, talk to someone who has been in places like those often. Its not to say people there don't find happiness, its just their happiness is more comprimising then our own. If you moved there right now, you would not be happy, as much as you like to think you might be.

 

 

 

That was very well put. And I'm sure a family of 5 would be much happier to live here with a decent income, than on some island, but if it is one or two people, it may be very different. With a family, if you die, you are letting someone down. Without one, if you die, it doesn't physicaly hurt anyone else.

 

 

 

 

 

Kill Thomas, can you tell me in all honesty, that if you sacrificed every possession and you own and love to go live on an island away from society and still remain happy?

 

 

 

Yes. But I would first have to learn how to live there. (ie. how to fish, hunt, skin/gut animals/fish, and cook them.

 

woow I bet you haven't ever even been camping, I bet you never spent a day without your computer posting on tip.it and playing runescape. I bet you never even spent a day in an undeveloped country. What you are saying is totally based on your imagination of what the world is like. The fact that you don't care about technology, but yet your sitting here posting on these forums frequently totally contridicts yourself. If you didn't need it you wouldn't use it. Tell me an experience that would tell me that you would be fine living w/o technology for the rest of your life. Where would you learn to live your life, where would you learn to cook and fish and raise crops? These things don't just pop up in your mind, where in the world are you going to learn that from?

 

Also your telling me you are willing to leave your family? Love and family is one of the neccessities of survival, I don't know if you know that. You can't live w/o someone not caring for you or you caring for someone. Not possible.

 

Also where exactly are you talking about this hippie utopia where everyone is happy just farming and cooking and being self-sufficient w/o any technology. I would really like to know. I feel like your just talking about the amish, and even they send their kids to school. Any half decent place in the world send their kids to school, and college if they can afford it. No one ever passes up that opportunity. Even in Africa, even in poor parts of Africa. I really wanna hear you give a name of this uneducated utopia that you are talking about.

[stan18]

woow I bet you haven't ever even been camping, I bet you never spent a day without your computer posting on tip.it and playing runescape. I bet you never even spent a day in an undeveloped country. What you are saying is totally based on your imagination of what the world is like. The fact that you don't care about technology, but yet your sitting here posting on these forums frequently totally contridicts yourself. If you didn't need it you wouldn't use it. Tell me an experience that would tell me that you would be fine living w/o technology for the rest of your life. Where would you learn to live your life, where would you learn to cook and fish and raise crops? These things don't just pop up in your mind, where in the world are you going to learn that from?

 

Also your telling me you are willing to leave your family? Love and family is one of the neccessities of survival, I don't know if you know that. You can't live w/o someone not caring for you or you caring for someone. Not possible.

 

Also where exactly are you talking about this hippie utopia where everyone is happy just farming and cooking and being self-sufficient w/o any technology. I would really like to know. I feel like your just talking about the amish, and even they send their kids to school. Any half decent place in the world send their kids to school, and college if they can afford it. No one ever passes up that opportunity. Even in Africa, even in poor parts of Africa. I really wanna hear you give a name of this uneducated utopia that you are talking about.

 

 

 

Well said. Kill_thomas9, you are probably the most unrealistic kid on these forums. You don't look at an argument and say, hey, well at least ____ can happen. It doesn't mean you're right, it means you're grasping for straws. But the worst part is you still think you're right, that you know what you're talking about, despite what we say and truth.

 

 

 

Trapical, too, summed up why you're imagination is going to kill you someday. Africa lives in poverty because, yes, there is not enough food. Because the land doesn't always give. And there is not enough clean water to go around - most of their clean water comes from OUTSIDE sources. You know, society? If not, they have to boil their water in hopes of killing at least some of the bacteria that threatens to kill them every sip. Ok, lets look past that part. How about the disease spreading insects? Dangerous animals? Not every animal in the wild will go up to you to be pet. Maybe they'll come up to you because its hungry, and you look tasty.

 

 

 

Its also funny how you talk about the environment, trapical's pic also summed up how mother nature isn't going to be lax just because you have a large imagination. Because for you, you don't have to worry; every day will be nice and sunny with a chance of wow you're a fool for believing you won't get blown to hell and back because of a hurricane. But there is hope! maybe a volcano will erupt and preserve you so EDUCATED scientists can examine you, and learn from your mistakes

 

 

 

So lets go to your imaginary island. Lets catch some imaginary fish off some imaginary coast with your imaginary fishing prowess. Then lets hang with your imaginary friends and play runescape. Wait, that doesn't exist. Lets, uhh... watch television! Wait, that doesn't exist, either. What the hell is there to do at this place? Watch the sun set? Its the same rerun every day. Ok, lets (by lets, i do not mean you.) have sex without condoms! then we'd (AGAIN, not you.) have 10 babies, 8 of which will die in birth, or because of some disease, or malnutrition, or some condition that could have been prevented by a doctor. Too bad there aren't any of those around.

 

 

 

face it. the society we have now is the best we can do to enjoy ourselves.

[Tigra00]

Work construction for a day in mid-January/mid-July.

 

 

 

That's why school is the right choice. My dad is a general contractor and busts his [wagon] for his money, but there are people who sit in and office all day and make more than he does.

[yomom1919]

I agree with what you said to an extent. It may not be fun to live in the United States without a good education, but that is only because everybody else has a college education. If you live somewhere you you can just live off the land, it would be much better. Lets say you life off the land in some beach of some island in the caribbian.

 

 

 

In the morning, you sleep untill you want to wake up. You then go wade out in the water, and fish for an hour or two. Go cook a fish you catch, and eat it for breakfast. Smoke a few more fish, and leave them to dry. Then go hang out with your other friends once they finish fishing. Lunch, you find some native fruit that grows there. Eat it for lunch. Go do an hour or so of cleaning up near your house. Later for dinner, eat one of the smoked fish you caught. If you want, sleep at your friend's house. Wake up the next morning, and do the same thing. You might do this 6 days a week. On the 7th day, you trade some fish or whatever for some other item you want. When you get old, you'r children watch out, and care for you. You would do the same for your parents. By the time you're 70, your body is tired and ready to die. You die a peaceful death, and people celebrate that you can move on to some other life. If you catch a disease when you're 30 or so, people will do their best to take care of you, but if you die, oh well. You'll be in a better place.

 

 

 

Doesn't sound to bad does it?

 

 

 

Ok time to kill this arguement.

 

 

 

You hang out with your friends every day, but you have absolutely no idea what they are saying because there is a lack of common language. Every day, you are confused and seek something further deep inside because of your intelligent human ambitions. You yearn to learn and somewhat comprehend the world around you, but fail and remain confused, desolate, and empty. You may create a belief that there is a greater force, but there is no way to communicate this belief. Since nature , winds, and storms destroyed your house you come to a conclusion that this greater force is out to punish you and prove its power. In no aspect do you conclude a kind, generous, force due to this nature being harsh, and you can only conclude that nature comes from this higher force. You have no way to spread your belief of this higher force, because there is no way of communication. One day, while you are 'hanging out with your friends', human ambition in the form of greater, more physically powerfull men, come and conquer you and make you serve as their slaves. There is no way to combat them because of their physical and united superiority. You are enslaved for the rest of your life, due to the fact that these men, also known as the human desire for superiority, organized themselves somewhat. Other humans eventually find out that by uniting, they can conquer their ununited peers. Society wins.

 

 

 

Hmm.... This sounds strangely like early human civilization; I wonder why?

[highlanders]

First of all, what is the point of living if you dont have fun doing it?

 

For me, my life is not fun-oriented. I think having fun is great, but I strive on bigger aspirations. In whatever area has my interest, I want all or nothing.

 

 

 

My own beliefs would make me think that if life was all fun, and if everything was easy, then we would not learn anything from our earthy lives.

 

 

 

People say money cant make people happy, but why do we go to school? To get an education so you can make more money in life.

 

So I ask you, if money can't make people happy, why spend your life trying to make more money?

 

 

 

I agree this doesn't make any sense. Personally, I study so that I can have a future, money doesn't interest me, but I have no choice to get some if I want to survive. If there was another way, to live the way I want without having to work in this greedy capitalist society, I would do it.

 

 

 

However, my ideal is not living on an isolated island. I would love living in a society like ours, but in which there is a lot of liberty and peace. I think having a society like that would be extremely difficult to create though because of the cruel nature of mankind. But I think our society would be greatly improved if at school, and in the medias, people were taught essential humanist values such as liberty, acceptance, compassion, non-violence, kindness, guidance, etc. Our capitalist society teaches greedyness, lazyness, superficiality, exploitation, and intolerance, no wonder the results are not beautiful.

 

 

 

 

 

Money can buy food, clothes, lodging, and certain fun activities, and without those one is unhappy. I also think money can buy small temporary joys. Like when you buy a new video game you were excited about, then you're really happy for a few hours or a few days, then you come back at your normal state. But money will never buy deep and lasting happiness.

 

 

 

 

 

What makes school the "right" thing to do?

 

 

Well, I think knowledge is important, but North-American schools just miserably fail at teaching it. Kids are forced to study things that do not interest them, instead of being able to study things that interest them. The overall atmosphere of schools is "if you're good at school, you're a nerd and nobody likes you", "if you suck at school, you're a rebel, you're cool and everyone will want to be with you", not what I would call the best learning atmosphere. The "cool" kids grow to be lazy, and uneducated adults as a result of this.

 

 

 

In France it's the total contrary: parents and teachers and overly strict, and huge sanctions are imposed to kids who do not perform as required. It's not good, on the contrary, it's creating stock-up adults, with closed minds. The new prime minister Nicolas Sarkozy wants to make French schools even more disciplined and strict, I can't imagine what's going to happen to the poor kids. I'm French and I can tell you this right now, the French are extremely intellectual people. They value grammar, orthograph, knowledge, intellect, hard work, but as a result, they became closed-minded and set in their ways. Fortunately, I lived my childhood in France, but my teenage and adult life in Canada, so I can understand both cultures, and I didn't become stock up.

 

 

 

I think schools should just be revised altogether, and be infused with more social values, and a balance between work and fun. I know this is hard to obtain, but it's worth trying.

 

 

 

Nice subjext btw, I love it, it's open so it's easy to discuss about it. We could go to the length of talking about the bases of our society with it. :P

[MercantCaptain]

It might be an idea to get some cash so you wont starve ? #-o

[malo2]

this thread is pretty much meaningless, made by some ignorant kid who has no idea what living without society is like, and is taking his current life for granted.

 

 

 

I don't know about you, but I find my life very fun, i live in a nice home, plenty of food, computer, tv, friends, ect.. I'm having a lot of fun, and you can go cut yourself.

[Abyssalwhip]

so aslo yu cun git on edjimuca1on nd 0t p0st liyk dis

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So also you can get an education and not post like this.

[TotalTalker]

I have this feeling A LOT.

 

 

 

I think that actually learning pointless things is helpful to me, because it makes you think "once ive done this, im outta here for good!".

[Kill_Thomas9]

They have done studies you know, I don't remember numbers exactly but it is said that money does buy happines to a certain extant. A family of 5, will only be happier with a higher income until $40k annual earnings. After that, happiness would not increase.

 

It is true money really doesn't buy happines, I mean plenty of rich people are misreable. Ofcourse there are plenty of rich people who are extremely happy they are rich as well. What people are saying is that, money doesn't guarentee anything. Money = happiness. What you do with the money can make it easier to achieve your happiness. If you spend the money to go on a trip with your kids and wife, you will be happy you had the money. If you spend your money to put your kids through school, you will be happy you had the money. I mean, I would love to be able to have money to take care of my mother after she retires, that would make me very happy. 50% of divorces are based on financial reasons, so if you have the money to avoid financial problems wouldn't you be happy.

 

Ofcourse school isn't just about getting to be rich, its securing a future. You won't be happy working in McD's, but even if you are able to get a half decent job, your future will be very unstable. You are more likely to become unemployed, and then have a harder time finding a job. School is there to secure your happiness, because the study above shows that money can buy happiness to a certain point. Ofcourse its not to say you can't be happy w/o an education, its just saying there is a higher chance that you will be happier with an education.

 

 

 

EDIT: oh and for people saying oh look at people living in the Third World Country, plenty of them are happy. There is a lot of grief and sickness there too, talk to someone who has been in places like those often. Its not to say people there don't find happiness, its just their happiness is more comprimising then our own. If you moved there right now, you would not be happy, as much as you like to think you might be.

 

 

 

That was very well put. And I'm sure a family of 5 would be much happier to live here with a decent income, than on some island, but if it is one or two people, it may be very different. With a family, if you die, you are letting someone down. Without one, if you die, it doesn't physicaly hurt anyone else.

 

 

 

 

 

Kill Thomas, can you tell me in all honesty, that if you sacrificed every possession and you own and love to go live on an island away from society and still remain happy?

 

 

 

Yes. But I would first have to learn how to live there. (ie. how to fish, hunt, skin/gut animals/fish, and cook them.

 

woow I bet you haven't ever even been camping, I bet you never spent a day without your computer posting on tip.it and playing runescape. I bet you never even spent a day in an undeveloped country. What you are saying is totally based on your imagination of what the world is like. The fact that you don't care about technology, but yet your sitting here posting on these forums frequently totally contridicts yourself. If you didn't need it you wouldn't use it. Tell me an experience that would tell me that you would be fine living w/o technology for the rest of your life. Where would you learn to live your life, where would you learn to cook and fish and raise crops? These things don't just pop up in your mind, where in the world are you going to learn that from?

 

Also your telling me you are willing to leave your family? Love and family is one of the neccessities of survival, I don't know if you know that. You can't live w/o someone not caring for you or you caring for someone. Not possible.

 

Also where exactly are you talking about this hippie utopia where everyone is happy just farming and cooking and being self-sufficient w/o any technology. I would really like to know. I feel like your just talking about the amish, and even they send their kids to school. Any half decent place in the world send their kids to school, and college if they can afford it. No one ever passes up that opportunity. Even in Africa, even in poor parts of Africa. I really wanna hear you give a name of this uneducated utopia that you are talking about.

 

 

 

Does that 3 week long back packing trip I went on last summer count as camping? And that was in the Sierra Nevada's just so you know. It is much harder to live there than it is to live on some island where you can just go fishing in the ocean.

 

 

 

 

 

And about being raided. If I live there, it isn't like I have any items of great value to have raided. If I live with 3 of my friends, what the "raiders" going to steal? I fishing spear? Some wood? Maybe a pair of sandals?

 

 

 

And just because I use something doesn't mean I cant live without it.

 

Maybe the people already living there would teach me how to fish/hunt/cook/whatever. Remember the part of my post where I said I would be living with 4+ friends?

 

 

 

woow I bet you haven't ever even been camping, I bet you never spent a day without your computer posting on tip.it and playing runescape. I bet you never even spent a day in an undeveloped country. What you are saying is totally based on your imagination of what the world is like. The fact that you don't care about technology, but yet your sitting here posting on these forums frequently totally contridicts yourself. If you didn't need it you wouldn't use it. Tell me an experience that would tell me that you would be fine living w/o technology for the rest of your life. Where would you learn to live your life, where would you learn to cook and fish and raise crops? These things don't just pop up in your mind, where in the world are you going to learn that from?

 

Also your telling me you are willing to leave your family? Love and family is one of the neccessities of survival, I don't know if you know that. You can't live w/o someone not caring for you or you caring for someone. Not possible.

 

Also where exactly are you talking about this hippie utopia where everyone is happy just farming and cooking and being self-sufficient w/o any technology. I would really like to know. I feel like your just talking about the amish, and even they send their kids to school. Any half decent place in the world send their kids to school, and college if they can afford it. No one ever passes up that opportunity. Even in Africa, even in poor parts of Africa. I really wanna hear you give a name of this uneducated utopia that you are talking about.

 

 

 

Well said. Kill_thomas9, you are probably the most unrealistic kid on these forums. You don't look at an argument and say, hey, well at least ____ can happen. It doesn't mean you're right, it means you're grasping for straws. But the worst part is you still think you're right, that you know what you're talking about, despite what we say and truth.

 

 

 

Trapical, too, summed up why you're imagination is going to kill you someday. Africa lives in poverty because, yes, there is not enough food. Because the land doesn't always give. And there is not enough clean water to go around - most of their clean water comes from OUTSIDE sources. You know, society? If not, they have to boil their water in hopes of killing at least some of the bacteria that threatens to kill them every sip. Ok, lets look past that part. How about the disease spreading insects? Dangerous animals? Not every animal in the wild will go up to you to be pet. Maybe they'll come up to you because its hungry, and you look tasty.

 

 

 

Its also funny how you talk about the environment, trapical's pic also summed up how mother nature isn't going to be lax just because you have a large imagination. Because for you, you don't have to worry; every day will be nice and sunny with a chance of wow you're a fool for believing you won't get blown to hell and back because of a hurricane. But there is hope! maybe a volcano will erupt and preserve you so EDUCATED scientists can examine you, and learn from your mistakes

 

 

 

So lets go to your imaginary island. Lets catch some imaginary fish off some imaginary coast with your imaginary fishing prowess. Then lets hang with your imaginary friends and play runescape. Wait, that doesn't exist. Lets, uhh... watch television! Wait, that doesn't exist, either. What the hell is there to do at this place? Watch the sun set? Its the same rerun every day. Ok, lets (by lets, i do not mean you.) have sex without condoms! then we'd (AGAIN, not you.) have 10 babies, 8 of which will die in birth, or because of some disease, or malnutrition, or some condition that could have been prevented by a doctor. Too bad there aren't any of those around.

 

 

 

face it. the society we have now is the best we can do to enjoy ourselves.

 

 

 

I wonder why africa lives in poverty... Certainly not because of the society we created...

 

Do you think that if africa had always been in poverty like that, they would have continued living like that? And what do you mean "in hopes of killing some of the bacteria"? If you boil water for 2 minutes, it kills almost all of the bacteria. After 20, im sure it will be completely sterile. And disease spreading insects? People survived perfectly fine before all these medicines. All the medecines do is make the bacteria more immune to out immune system. If it's west nile you're talking about, I hope you know that there are so many more mosquitos now because of accelerated global warming.

 

 

 

Just because you need televisions or computers to have fun, doesn't mean we all do. And if 8 of 10 children die in birth, oh well. Why not let nature takes it's course?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And to whoever said I would get bored of living there, do you not ever get bored of your current life?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

so aslo yu cun git on edjimuca1on nd 0t p0st liyk dis

 

 

 

 

You obviously havn't read the thread.

 

 

 

Just cuz sum1 dunt go ta skol, duznt meen thay wil tak lik dis.

 

 

 

And if you dont go to school, you wont be typing anyway. If what you said is a valid statement, then I can make the same point about farming. You probably farm, like a farmer would type. You need different skills to live in different places.

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School, is a waste of time. At least the way they work currently. I learned more from websites and books, than from what school can teach me.

 

 

 

In my opinion, education should be free. It'd help society much more.