Dark Bow Review and Comparison

[Arambul]

As soon as I can afford it, I'm buying one. It may be slower and may get nerfed, but I don't care at all. It looks awesome, and it's something to boast about.

[jackal_55]

you cant 1hit KO with the special, its max is 45-45, and simple maths tells me thats 90.

 

but it will overpower range pures, since they can get 99 range by 74-ish combat.

 

i think you shouldn't be able to deal combined damage greater than your combat level. :-k

[sessie]

If both crystal bow and dark bow are used on rapid, they will fire the exact same amount of arrows in the same time. Which means darkbow is exactly twice as slow as crystal bow.

[tskolar]

In addition the Dark Bow is about as slow as a Crystal Bow, possibly even .1 seconds more however it shoots 2 arrows at once which after some brief testing of timing has led me to the conclusion that it is as fast a Mage Short Bow.

 

I have tested this and proven it to be 2 Dark Bow shots for every 5 Magic Short Bow shots. This means the Dark Bow shoots 4 arrows for every 5 arrows the Magic Short Bow shoots. Therefore, even with double arrows shooting, it is still slower than a Magic Short Bow.

 

 

 

This hellishly slow speed is why it dropped to 5m ea. The way i see its dark bow more or less the same weapon as msb at rune arrows level.

[tskolar]

If both crystal bow and dark bow are used on rapid, they will fire the exact same amount of arrows in the same time. Which means darkbow is exactly twice as slow as crystal bow.

 

 

 

Wow that is as slow as slow can be. ty sessie- no new reason for me to come online and play again apperantly

[blacksimon]

41-41 is the max spec for the moment.

 

39-39 with a dds is the max spec for meleers.

 

 

 

I've always been a meleer, and I think this was a very fair update.

 

You can not be one hitted with the bow, and even if they manage to hit double 30s....you have the time to eat 3 sharks.

 

 

 

This is the hally rangers have been waiting for.

[Dork]

Dark bow shoots 4 times everytime MSB shoots 5.

 

 

 

Dark bow Special uses up the entire bar, giving you only a 50% added damage (not 50% extra chance to hit) for the doubleshot.

 

 

 

Obviously you didn't actually test it yourself. It takes up the same amount of spec bar as msb does.

[Lemurian]

Well, with an Accumulator on my back, this looks like the most awesome bow ever.

[Guest baronmaster]

I think the Crystal bow is still be best after all. It is more multi purpose than the dark bow

[Fredz]

41-41 is the max spec for the moment.

 

39-39 with a dds is the max spec for meleers.

 

 

 

I've always been a meleer, and I think this was a very fair update.

 

You can not be one hitted with the bow, and even if they manage to hit double 30s....you have the time to eat 3 sharks.

 

 

 

This is the hally rangers have been waiting for.

 

 

 

 

 

Why Do people ALWAYS forget about multi combat zones, in the wilderness. Now with a dds you need to be close, very close. And with good armor like guthans the dds spec is never going thrugh, or, a few times. But goodluck hitting 39, 39 on a guy with 90 def and Guthans.

 

 

 

The new bow however, can use its spec from a great distance. It ALWAYS HIT, meaning you wont defend agenst it even if you have 99 defence and are using granite/guthans armor. Now in a multi combat zone you are deffinatly dead if three guys team on you and use their specs. You wont have time to eat. You wont have time to pot. You wont have time to pray. And your barrows armor wont help you the slighest in defending agenst the specials.

[DarkDude]

Just done my own tests.

 

 

 

I believe that with Rune Arrows against melee (ie wild) it's not worth it, infact I was doing better with mage short.

 

 

 

But with Dragon arrows...

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best combo I got was 38-33 which koed the person.

 

 

 

Going to test it on bloodvelds (With mith arrows) and see how well that does but until the prices of Dragon Arrows go down to something like 1k-2k each (Hopefully they do anyway) then I believe the dark bow is a waste.

[Chocobodude0]

I am SO tired of hearing "l0l st00p!d r@ngErs, jagex is g0nna n3rf you ch00b3rs!"

 

 

 

No, they're not. These people are hitting 30+ per arrow on the specials, 'cause they're not just wielding the bow, they're wielding the bow, rasnger armor, fury, archer ring, range prayer on, range pot, etc. They're pulling every range bonus out of the hat for a max hit. On top of that, the majority of these people hitting that high also have 90+ range!

 

 

 

So please, quit worrying, it's not gonna get nurfed.

[koddo1]

I am SO tired of hearing "l0l st00p!d r@ngErs, jagex is g0nna n3rf you ch00b3rs!"

 

 

 

No, they're not. These people are hitting 30+ per arrow on the specials, 'cause they're not just wielding the bow, they're wielding the bow, rasnger armor, fury, archer ring, range prayer on, range pot, etc. They're pulling every range bonus out of the hat for a max hit. On top of that, the majority of these people hitting that high also have 90+ range!

 

 

 

So please, quit worrying, it's not gonna get nurfed.

 

 

 

Yeah, in the wild...people have 90+ range, pots, pray, everything they need. So I'm pretty sure these results could very easily move over into the wild, when Dragon Arrow prices drop a bit.

[Chocobodude0]

I am SO tired of hearing "l0l st00p!d r@ngErs, jagex is g0nna n3rf you ch00b3rs!"

 

 

 

No, they're not. These people are hitting 30+ per arrow on the specials, 'cause they're not just wielding the bow, they're wielding the bow, rasnger armor, fury, archer ring, range prayer on, range pot, etc. They're pulling every range bonus out of the hat for a max hit. On top of that, the majority of these people hitting that high also have 90+ range!

 

 

 

So please, quit worrying, it's not gonna get nurfed.

 

 

 

Yeah, in the wild...people have 90+ range, pots, pray, everything they need. So I'm pretty sure these results could very easily move over into the wild, when Dragon Arrow prices drop a bit.

 

 

 

Even so, I've witnessed a ranger fight a meleer with all of the above in a battle in the wildy. He still lost.

 

 

 

If he fights a mage, then yes, the ranger does have a much higher chance of winning. But that's what the triangle is supposed to be.

 

 

 

This boost was necessary rangers, to the point where they have an advantage over mages but still shouldn't get too cocky when fighting a melee-user. That's how it's supposed to be, why would Jagex nerf that?

[Atroxide]

41-41 is the max spec for the moment.

 

39-39 with a dds is the max spec for meleers.

 

 

 

I've always been a meleer, and I think this was a very fair update.

 

You can not be one hitted with the bow, and even if they manage to hit double 30s....you have the time to eat 3 sharks.

 

 

 

This is the hally rangers have been waiting for.

 

 

 

 

 

Why Do people ALWAYS forget about multi combat zones, in the wilderness. Now with a dds you need to be close, very close. And with good armor like guthans the dds spec is never going thrugh, or, a few times. But goodluck hitting 39, 39 on a guy with 90 def and Guthans.

 

 

 

The new bow however, can use its spec from a great distance. It ALWAYS HIT, meaning you wont defend agenst it even if you have 99 defence and are using granite/guthans armor. Now in a multi combat zone you are deffinatly dead if three guys team on you and use their specs. You wont have time to eat. You wont have time to pot. You wont have time to pray. And your barrows armor wont help you the slighest in defending agenst the specials.

 

So you saying a weapon that cost 60k (last i checked) should be as strong as a multi-million weapon? And my spec usually is not above 20 for rune arrows with best bonus (fury, robin set, potted, etc.) if the other person has barrows on (i have 93 range btw). also the fact that you can do 3 specials in a row when we can only do 1 and have to wait for a second spec.

 

 

 

And the odds of running into 3 people with drag arrows and dark bows are going to be slim...

[Soulthresher]

Even so, I will continue to use a Crystal Bow for the accuracy, good power, and the fact I don't need arrows....plus I don't have a dark bow yet :oops:

[nicrune007]

Well im getting one no matter what

 

 

 

It should be better than MSB for training..

 

i will try

[Berrakus]

I would say that the initial price drop is due to 2 factors: Jagex had a high drop rate when they first released the Dark Bow, and people writing off the bow since it was so slow. I can personally attest that the drop rate has been lowered dramatically (I camped there for 7+ hours last night and not only did I not get a bow, I only saw one person all night get one). Since its much more expensive to kill Dark Beasts than it is to kill Abby Demons, and since their other drops are about the same (with a huge advantage to Abby Demons since they drop level 3 clues), the price of Dark Bows will have to stay a lot higher than Abby Whips or high leveled slayers will get fed up and go back to camping at the Abby Demons.

[dandude5007]

so can we get the final word here?

 

more effective than msb for

 

training?

 

staking?

 

pking?

[Saru Inc]

In addition the Dark Bow is about as slow as a Crystal Bow, possibly even .1 seconds more however it shoots 2 arrows at once which after some brief testing of timing has led me to the conclusion that it is as fast a Mage Short Bow.

 

I have tested this and proven it to be 2 Dark Bow shots for every 5 Magic Short Bow shots. This means the Dark Bow shoots 4 arrows for every 5 arrows the Magic Short Bow shoots. Therefore, even with double arrows shooting, it is still slower than a Magic Short Bow.

 

 

 

Yea, my house combat ring ftw?

 

 

 

I still like a C bow better then an Dark Bow.

[Kariga]

So Dark bow shoots 4 times every mage shortbow's 5.

 

Does this mean it is the same speed as whip/dscim/dagger?

 

This bow seems like a good one, slower than shortbow but not by a lot.

 

hits hard though. 2 arrows at once and both hit what 20?

 

Doesn't this mean its like a ranged whip that can hit in the highs 40s and then the (full spec draining) max 70+ special?

[nyyankees588]

Personally I still love my crystal bow. I would like to see the dark bow be tested with arrows that are steel or iron, and against people wearing melle armour (rune or higher). I'm still not sure that this is a great update. You've gotta remember that people who are hitting 35+ on specs are using dragon arrows and all of the other range bonus. In the wilderness normall tanks wear verac skirt, black d hide body, torag's helm, attractor, and the other normall items. With that your range bonus will be substantialy lower. Another thing is that mellers still have the dds spec. say you hit a 28-28, 20-15, 34-20, 10-14. That still adds up to 169 damage. The one thing that gives rangers the upper hand in this case is that they can hit 80+ damage in one hit which gives players much less time to eat.

[BBC3]

Dark bow shoots 4 times everytime MSB shoots 5.

 

 

 

Dark bow Special uses up the entire bar, giving you only a 50% added damage (not 50% extra chance to hit) for the doubleshot.

 

 

 

(For staking, stakers only need to watch out for the special after which if it fails to k.o. will allow the stakers enough time to eat and regroup) [Doubt stakers will want to stake without food with this spec around]

 

 

 

Some claim it can hit through armour, but what dark bow special ensures is only a sure-fire damaging hit, not any increased accuracy or hitting through armour (like what dharok was rumoured to do before)

 

 

 

I am going to put my hand down and say the Dark bow update will not be nerfed. :uhh: (the longer it passes the less likely it will be for nerfing to take place)

 

 

 

whip spec got nerfed after a few months.

 

msb spec got nerfed after a few years

[Golvellius]

I love it.

 

Sure its half the speed of crystal.

 

But it fires 2 rune arrows which I was able to do 29s without the spec and 31 with.

 

So, its just as good as 100% crystal which doesn't stay 100% for long. :(

 

Karils is still better since you can get off 3, 27's in the same time, but it might be close if only I could find a dragon imp...

 

This bow should have a 70 range requirement.

[goldenjjx]

I have been using it whole day now and I am very impressed.

 

 

 

YES, it is slow BUT it shoots 2 arrows each shot so it is actually faster ...

 

 

 

It also has a better spec since it already shoots 2 arrows its the same as MSB but this time it also does 30% extra damage! or even 50% when using the already very powerfull dragon arrows!

 

 

 

It's better then MSB in my opinion tough for training I don't know, I have gained 2 levels using it already but maybe thats because im no living at dust devils whole day ...

 

 

 

Anny way its only 5 less range extra then crystal and the crystal degrades!