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I took a 1-month hiatus to find Santas up 4M, my White up 50M, purples up 25M. Its been a long while since this happened.

 

 

 

Im thinking its because: 1) 3rd age crashed after Dfire shield, 2) Capes are getting old.

 

 

 

Or, it could be a price manip. But it's hard to find a manip that goes across both hats and small rares.

 

 

 

Ideas?

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Or maybe a really rich dude got banned.

 

I mean REALLY rich.

 

 

 

That happened a lot during the period of sideways growth; a lot of stakers got banned. But nothing happened.

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they should always be going up and up, i dont understand how come they go down sometimes :?

 

 

 

because you CANT ever get new amount of them in-game.. :cry:

 

 

 

and sometimes i see furys prices go up?.. hows that possible, because everyday you can get more and more and more of them into markets O:)

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Capes are getting old news now

 

Watch the yew/bs price, they both dropped 25ea

 

And nats are down to 290-300 again, instead of 330.

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they should always be going up and up, i dont understand how come they go down sometimes :?

 

 

 

because you CANT ever get new amount of them in-game.. :cry:

 

 

 

and sometimes i see furys prices go up?.. hows that possible, because everyday you can get more and more and more of them into markets O:)

Its all about how many people are selling them and how many people are buying, if a lot more people are buying then they wont change in priice and might go down a little.

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they should always be going up and up, i dont understand how come they go down sometimes :?

 

 

 

because you CANT ever get new amount of them in-game.. :cry:

 

 

 

and sometimes i see furys prices go up?.. hows that possible, because everyday you can get more and more and more of them into markets O:)

 

 

 

It's called demand, if theres more demand for a certain product people will continuously out bid each other until they cant or until the seller accepts, this rises the prices.

 

 

 

Items that are in-elastic, like Rares IE theres always a demand for them (because no more go into the market, an example would be petrol in RL, people always need it), there prices will always go up and down depending on the demand.

 

 

 

 

 

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OR

 

 

 

its because they are doing what they do every single year.

 

 

 

they drop dramatically dec - june/july (oct - april for masks)

 

 

 

then they rise bk up to that years peak in july - nov (may - oct for masks)

 

 

 

it happens EVERY year

 

 

 

the rares drop by say 4% value between thier holiday and midway thru yr then they rise back up by like 3.5% as it gets to thier hol.

 

 

 

It happens every year but over past few years the yearly peak has always been a fraction lower than the previous years.

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and sometimes i see furys prices go up?.. hows that possible, because everyday you can get more and more and more of them into markets O:)

 

 

 

 

 

true, more and more each day, but more and more people make pures that need them, and get to where they have all other perfect armor, so all they needed was fury, and also people sell their rares because they went up so they have extra cash to spend, more of a demand is all i'm trying to say, my theories may not be true

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they should always be going up and up, i dont understand how come they go down sometimes :?

 

 

 

because you CANT ever get new amount of them in-game.. :cry:

 

 

 

and sometimes i see furys prices go up?.. hows that possible, because everyday you can get more and more and more of them into markets O:)

 

 

 

It's simple; the rares market is both very small and very expensive. This gives the rich phat merchants a lot of room to manage the prices, it works the same way as the stock market in real life. When the prices slow down in rising, people slow down in buying them, which makes them fall, it's a deadly cycle that sometimes causes crashes (There has only been one crash in runescape to date, which happened at the phat dupe), but usually the prices simply remain stagnant at lower prices. Since they become cheaper, more people tend to buy them, and eventually they restore to their usual rising speed.

 

 

 

It's funny how every time something like this happens, people often tend to make strange and far fetched theories to what happened when the answer is almost always the same, and very simple.

 

 

 

I think that the big rush is coming to an end for skill-capes and construction. most of the rare owners that sold their rares to buy capes and shiny houses have done that and built up enough money to re-invest in rares again.
I'm sorry, but thats one of the dumbest things I have heard in a while.
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I think that the big rush is coming to an end for skill-capes and construction. most of the rare owners that sold their rares to buy capes and shiny houses have done that and built up enough money to re-invest in rares again.
I'm sorry, but thats one of the dumbest things I have heard in a while.

 

 

 

That actually makes a bit of sense. 3rd Age, Skill Capes, and Construction killed rares for the past year or so, as rich players sold their rares to be able to afford these new things. However, the people that want these things have gotten them, and now have a surplus of cash.

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they should always be going up and up, i dont understand how come they go down sometimes :?

 

 

 

because you CANT ever get new amount of them in-game.. :cry:

 

 

 

and sometimes i see furys prices go up?.. hows that possible, because everyday you can get more and more and more of them into markets O:)

 

 

 

It's simple; the rares market is both very small and very expensive. This gives the rich phat merchants a lot of room to manage the prices, it works the same way as the stock market in real life. When the prices slow down in rising, people slow down in buying them, which makes them fall, it's a deadly cycle that sometimes causes crashes (There has only been one crash in runescape to date, which happened at the phat dupe), but usually the prices simply remain stagnant at lower prices. Since they become cheaper, more people tend to buy them, and eventually they restore to their usual rising speed.

 

 

 

It's funny how every time something like this happens, people often tend to make strange and far fetched theories to what happened when the answer is almost always the same, and very simple.

 

 

 

I think that the big rush is coming to an end for skill-capes and construction. most of the rare owners that sold their rares to buy capes and shiny houses have done that and built up enough money to re-invest in rares again.
I'm sorry, but thats one of the dumbest things I have heard in a while.
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I'm sorry, but I missed the part where his idea was so far-fetched that you had to demean it.... Honestly, people that get it in their heads that they're right think that any other idea sounds ludicrous :wall:

 

 

 

Who are you to say he is absolutely wrong?

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I think that the big rush is coming to an end for skill-capes and construction. most of the rare owners that sold their rares to buy capes and shiny houses have done that and built up enough money to re-invest in rares again.
I'm sorry, but thats one of the dumbest things I have heard in a while.

 

 

 

That actually makes a bit of sense. 3rd Age, Skill Capes, and Construction killed rares for the past year or so, as rich players sold their rares to be able to afford these new things. However, the people that want these things have gotten them, and now have a surplus of cash.

well you see, it doesnt work that way, people don't sell rares for the sake of getting a cape or a nice house. The ones that can barely afford a rare have better things to do than waste money on an unnecessarily expensive house valuing at over 30m. Same goes for capes, you either invest in a cape or a rare, you don't jump round between the two.

 

 

 

As for the people who have multiple expensive rares, again, they either don't waste their money, and if they do, most lvl 99 stats don't require much money, something someone with a lot of rares would have no trouble affording, and a lot of skills end up making profit anyway. Either way, there are very few people out there with so many rares, even if they each sell one for some 99 stats or an overly fancy house, it would have almost zero effect on the economy.

 

 

 

It's pure common sense, menial things like that don't affect something as massive as the economy. You might as well say that exploding stars are caused by humans.

 

 

 

 

 

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they should always be going up and up, i dont understand how come they go down sometimes :?

 

 

 

because you CANT ever get new amount of them in-game.. :cry:

 

 

 

and sometimes i see furys prices go up?.. hows that possible, because everyday you can get more and more and more of them into markets O:)

 

 

 

It's simple; the rares market is both very small and very expensive. This gives the rich phat merchants a lot of room to manage the prices, it works the same way as the stock market in real life. When the prices slow down in rising, people slow down in buying them, which makes them fall, it's a deadly cycle that sometimes causes crashes (There has only been one crash in runescape to date, which happened at the phat dupe), but usually the prices simply remain stagnant at lower prices. Since they become cheaper, more people tend to buy them, and eventually they restore to their usual rising speed.

 

 

 

It's funny how every time something like this happens, people often tend to make strange and far fetched theories to what happened when the answer is almost always the same, and very simple.

 

 

 

I think that the big rush is coming to an end for skill-capes and construction. most of the rare owners that sold their rares to buy capes and shiny houses have done that and built up enough money to re-invest in rares again.
I'm sorry, but thats one of the dumbest things I have heard in a while.
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I'm sorry, but I missed the part where his idea was so far-fetched that you had to demean it.... Honestly, people that get it in their heads that they're right think that any other idea sounds ludicrous :wall:

 

 

 

Who are you to say he is absolutely wrong?

the guy with common sense :|
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I think that the big rush is coming to an end for skill-capes and construction. most of the rare owners that sold their rares to buy capes and shiny houses have done that and built up enough money to re-invest in rares again.
I'm sorry, but thats one of the dumbest things I have heard in a while.

 

 

 

That actually makes a bit of sense. 3rd Age, Skill Capes, and Construction killed rares for the past year or so, as rich players sold their rares to be able to afford these new things. However, the people that want these things have gotten them, and now have a surplus of cash.

well you see, it doesnt work that way, people don't sell rares for the sake of getting a cape or a nice house. The ones that can barely afford a rare have better things to do than waste money on an unnecessarily expensive house valuing at over 30m. Same goes for capes, you either invest in a cape or a rare, you don't jump round between the two.

 

 

 

As for the people who have multiple expensive rares, again, they either don't waste their money, and if they do, most lvl 99 stats don't require much money, something someone with a lot of rares would have no trouble affording, and a lot of skills end up making profit anyway. Either way, there are very few people out there with so many rares, even if they each sell one for some 99 stats or an overly fancy house, it would have almost zero effect on the economy.

 

 

 

It's pure common sense, menial things like that don't affect something as massive as the economy. You might as well say that exploding stars are caused by humans.

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Once again, you think you know the motive and method behind everyone who would want a skill cape or nice house, which (unless you happen to be some omniscient superior being) would be quite improbable. You need to keep an open mind.

 

 

 

And as for the common sense quip, honestly, someone who truly used common sense would realize that you can't exclude the possibility of 3rd age stuff, houses, and skill capes being causes for the rising prices of rares. As of now, I see it as most likely a joint cause of both normal effects of the economy as well as the things you deny play a part.

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