What Math Reveals

[baalboy5]

either way wow that is alot of dough

[Aneron]

To answer the question, I think that someone who would have taken the phat without knowing that he could sell it for real money would be even more likely to do so after learning that.

 

 

 

But, I think a blue phat would be hard to sell in one piece. You'd have to sell it for gold and sell that little by little.

 

 

 

And for the record, I think that saying [truthfully] you would quite happily steal $2,400 from a person says as much about your character as actually doing it.

[justcallmedaddy]

Would anyone in their right mind pay$ 2,400 for an item in Rs? :roll:

[llamster]

Apperently, Jon "NeverDie" Jacobs would.

 

 

 

http://blogs.business2.com/business2blog/2007/05/entropia_sells_.html

[MrBowser]

Hell, Look at it this way. A university student, in his first year, gets a computer. Finds about these cool online games. Tries Runescape. Likes it. Shows it too his faimily on christmas, hears about these Christmas crackers, and gets, oh, say, 40, because he thinks they're fun.

 

 

 

Years later, after finishing university, he hears about runescape again, learns about how much his crackers are worth, sells them for real world money, and pays of his student debts, and buys a house.

 

So, in about 1/2 an hour, he made 80000$. The power of investment... :twisted:

[Aresgodowar]

well im in college right now and my books cost a but load. so if my parents ever decided to stop giving me money i might seriously consider selling my acc. but i don't really know since ive never needed money that badly.

[Soma2035]

I would feel sprry for someone that bought and then got banned for rl trasing :XD:

 

 

 

i wouldn't.

 

 

 

Hypothetically speaking, anyone stupid enough to spend $2400 on a party hat should die of starvation so that Darwin survives. >.<

 

 

 

Anyways, if someone was to change his party hat to $2400, it wouldn't involve putting "Runescape Blue Party Hat!" on Ebay, it would probably involve selling it in game for near 500M cash, and selling it in 1M, 5M, and 10M increments.

 

 

 

At one point I was highly interested in the exchange rates because I made a small amount of cash playing D2 which had no such rules prohibiting item to money exchange. Out of curiousity I checked to see whether Jagex's rule was effective. It wasn't.

 

 

 

But another trend I noticed was that the larger the increment of your sale, the less it was worth per million.

 

 

 

For example, when I checked, 1M RS Coins was worth approximately $12. A level 100 account with 5M Coins and roughly 10M in items was worth less than $100. Which means if he had sold his items and sold his coins in 1m increments, he would've earned nearly twice as much and still had an empty account, which he could give to a friend or keep for future use. Yes I know this is breaking about a thousand rules but c'mon. If you're quitting Runescape you hardly care anymore about how many rules you're breaking.

 

 

 

I'm guessing if you tried to sell a Party Hat outright, you'd have a hard time getting any more than a thousand dollars. Just because hardly anyone wants to risk thousands on a item in a computer game, with no guarantee of you giving it to them, and the fact it's against the rules.

[Master_Smither]

Darn............... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

 

 

 

Thats crazy!!!! Seriously people with like 10 p hats sets are well over 50 grand in pixels....

[Straw_Hat]

you guys just see numbers and get excited

 

noone really buys like that

 

they will buy in mils, usually not phats/crackers. seen quite a few masks and santas being sold at the site i go to, actually i'll quote a few here

 

 

 

I have ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã289.23 In My Bank account which is around $400-$500.

 

Not looking to spend the whole amount but i will buy most mills at the price ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã2 or $4. We will use an MM and also i record all trades and will take legal action against anyone who may attempt to scam. Please add -removed email- if you are willing to sell and also i buy big bulks!!

 

I want bulks of around 20mill minimum. Thank you very much

 

 

 

Buying 35M, $5.00 per mil

 

10m and lower - $3.00 per mil

 

20m and lower - $4.00 per mil

 

35M - $5.00 per mil

 

 

 

 

 

WILL be doing it through mail, MM will be used, unless you want otherwise.

 

 

 

-removed email-

 

 

 

buying 100m and mayb more buying for $4 ea pay through moneybookers, paypal, western union(mail)

 

 

 

will trade in increments of 20m at a time if u want to. all trades you go 1st. when we trade in increments i get the cash and send the money for only the 20m u gave me not the full 100m.(repeat)

 

 

 

will go 1st if i know u are very trusted. prefer paypal but will pay other ways if asked for wont b checking back until thursday. i will be buying from the offerers between thursday and monday most likely. post how much u got if u wanna sell

 

 

 

a person i know actually merchants rs gp :XD:

 

buy like 100M for $3.50 ea and sell for $4.50 ea

 

 

 

some of you think 2.4k irl isn't alot of money but some of us are college students. could use some extra money on beer and stuff

 

 

 

people pay others to get firecapes, fighter torsos, do quests, train stats

 

 

 

@Aresgodowar

 

some of us are college students also

 

i have also thought about selling my rs gp as i don't really play too much anymore. i mean i have like 700M so at $4 ea that's 2.8k cash to help pay for a few stuff irl

 

 

 

btw only idiots try to sell on ebay

[robgrout]

wow i have neaver thought of it like that before and that is alot of money its amazing how much they are worth but would anybody realy pay 2400 for one? i dont think they would.... i would like rares to be made untradeable or taken out of the game compleatly (ino it wont happon)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(for the recored i hate rl traders macros and have never had anything to do with them)

[folmer_veeman]

why can't jagex just put fake posts on ebay sellnig partyhats for 100 dollar each, and sell it, but few days after the buyer bought it, ban him? they would get some extra income :D

[Outsanity]

2,400 dollars isn't really a lot, and in my opinion, not enough real cash for what it takes to even earn a Blue Partyhat nowadays.

 

 

 

Not like I would ever sell anything for real money, but if I did, I'd make sure it would be worth my time, you know?

[hatebringer]

well its against the rules, so in a fair market, it is actually worth only in game money, but people go as far as that have no life, and spend actual money for a game so they are rich in a fantasy game... Pathetic

[highlanders]

I previously checked out of curiosity, and 4 dollars/m is the highest price. Often, smaller sweatshops who can't afford much publicty have lower prices, lowest I've seen was 3.3 dollars/m. Only around 1500 dollars for that party hat, if you do intelligent rs gold shopping.

 

 

 

However, we have to make a distinction, that is the price when you buy the gold. If you were to sell some rs gold on a website, they only offer around 30-40% of the price they sell it for.

 

 

 

So if by example, on a website they sell 10m for 37.80 dollars. If you want to sell 10m to them however, they will offer you between 11.34 and 15.12, not very good at all.

 

 

 

That party hat's buying price would be 1920, but you would only get around 576 to 768 if you were to sell it, not much.

 

 

 

It's a little like when you buy something common like a chair, the re-selling price is a lot lower, it immediately loses it's value when you buy it. Much like when you buy rs gold.

 

 

 

That's why buying off gold farming websites is not a good idea. "Professionals" use black market forums to sell and buy Rs gold, at stable, reasonable prices. I don't encourage you to do it, just explaining how buying rs gold off those websites is a stupid idea.

[Straw_Hat]

2,400 dollars isn't really a lot, and in my opinion, not enough real cash for what it takes to even earn a Blue Partyhat nowadays.

 

 

 

Not like I would ever sell anything for real money, but if I did, I'd make sure it would be worth my time, you know?

 

 

 

lol there are lots of ppl staking party hats a day

 

they win/lose bills a day

 

 

 

say they win a blue phat one day, if they sold it for rs gp and sold the rs gp that would be 2.4k'ish

 

can you make 2.4k in one day irl?

 

 

 

the people selling that amount of rs gp/rares are usually rich stakers which usually get banned but i can see where they are coming from. i mean a few of them had over 5 bil, that's over 20k cash irl. new car plx?

[Utopianflame]

why can't jagex just put fake posts on ebay sellnig partyhats for 100 dollar each, and sell it, but few days after the buyer bought it, ban him? they would get some extra income :D

 

 

 

Because that is generally known as fraud.

[Outsanity]

2,400 dollars isn't really a lot, and in my opinion, not enough real cash for what it takes to even earn a Blue Partyhat nowadays.

 

 

 

Not like I would ever sell anything for real money, but if I did, I'd make sure it would be worth my time, you know?

 

 

 

lol there are lots of ppl staking party hats a day

 

they win/lose bills a day

 

 

 

say they win a blue phat one day, if they sold it for rs gp and sold the rs gp that would be 2.4k'ish

 

can you make 2.4k in one day irl?

 

 

 

the people selling that amount of rs gp/rares are usually rich stakers which usually get banned but i can see where they are coming from. i mean a few of them had over 5 bil, that's over 20k cash irl. new car plx?

 

 

 

Yes, but how did you get that first paryhat, I wonder?

 

 

 

For the general Runescape player, who does not stake, it takes AGES to get enough cash for a Blue Partyhat. I can get anywhere from 1-3 Dark Bows a day and they sell for about 3.5m each. Lets say I get 2 a day and a Blue Partyhat is about 500m. (I haven't checked the price in a while, but lets just make this hypothetical, shall we?)

 

 

 

Ok...so, 2 Dark Bows a day. 500M / 3.5M = About 142 Dark Bows. That's 71 Days, or 2 Months, 11 Days...to get a Blue Partyhat. 2,400 Dollars suddenly doesn't become worth it.

 

 

 

You can say you can stake to get one, but I can say the opposite. Neither of us truly can put an specific price on one, in other words.

 

 

 

Point of it all: Real world trading IS stupid and IS against the rules.