Partyhats. Really Discontinued?

[Dragons_Might]

Been farming (93/99) and decided to ask something that I ask my friends alot. Are partyhats really discontinued?

 

 

 

Look at it this way. Where did Partyhats come from? Christmas crackers. Now wait- there are still more christmas crackers around the game! (idc if its only a few hundred, there still are).

 

 

 

Therefore, someone can pull a christmas cracker, and a brand new sparkly partyhat comes into the game. Wait. Isn't discontinued item something that can NEVER come into the game again? (unless you count hacking)

 

 

 

So truely. Partyhats aren't discontinued as new ones can come into the game. They would only be discontinued when there are no christmas crackers left.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A common counter argument I hear is that Christmas crackers are discontinued, so therefore only a limited number of partyhats can come into the game still. Does that change it? They still can come into the game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I want to hear other opinions. :

[Robot919]

Party hats are in a way discontinued, because they will never be dropped from a monster again, or has a holiday event drop. However, as you mentioned, you can still get party hats from Christmas Crackers, although you will lose a humongous amount of money in the process.

[superson]

Tell me who in their right mind would crack a Christmas Cracker?

[thegarrett73]

 

I want to hear other opinions. :

 

 

 

Is the Way of obtainign them created: NO

 

Is the definint "Production gone": NO

 

In any way are more being brought into the game, or the ways to get them getting brought in: NO

 

 

 

Even if a few discontined crackers contiune to yeild them since they are not being produced it is Discontinued, and my spelling sucks.

 

 

 

I have 10 packeges, 3 paxs hold guns, if one gun if opend, but no other packs with guns are being made, even if there are packs with guns in them THE GUNS ARE DISCONTINUED!

 

 

 

Nuff Said,

[Dragons_Might]

Thats not the point. There actually are people who would though.

 

 

 

The point is someone CAN crack one and create an item that is supposed to be discontinued.

[Dragons_Might]

 

I want to hear other opinions. :

 

 

 

Is the Way of obtainign them created: NO

 

Is the definint "Production gone": NO

 

In any way are more being brought into the game, or the ways to get them getting brought in: NO

 

 

 

Even if a few discontined crackers contiune to yeild them since they are not being produced it is Discontinued, and my spelling sucks.

 

 

 

I have 10 packeges, 3 paxs hold guns, if one gun if opend, but no other packs with guns are being made, even if there are packs with guns in them THE GUNS ARE DISCONTINUED!

 

 

 

Nuff Said,

 

 

 

That confused me.. :-k

[Omali]

The party hats are already in the game, just in another form. The point of calling something discontinued is that there is a finite source of it.

 

 

 

For example: Let's say there are 2 thousand party hats and 5 hundred christmas crackers. That still makes 2500 party hats in the game total. It's not replenishing, the number can only go down, so it's discontinued.

[Lacrosse_fan]

Well aren't you clever?

 

 

 

They're discontinued. End of thread.

[Soma2035]

 

I want to hear other opinions. :

 

 

 

Is the Way of obtainign them created: NO

 

Is the definint "Production gone": NO

 

In any way are more being brought into the game, or the ways to get them getting brought in: NO

 

 

 

Even if a few discontined crackers contiune to yeild them since they are not being produced it is Discontinued, and my spelling sucks.

 

 

 

I have 10 packeges, 3 paxs hold guns, if one gun if opend, but no other packs with guns are being made, even if there are packs with guns in them THE GUNS ARE DISCONTINUED!

 

 

 

Nuff Said,

 

 

 

But that's not the same.

 

 

 

I see your point. Christmas crackers don't CONTAIN party hats as they would in theory. Rather, activating one CREATES a party hat.

 

 

 

So if you have only materials to make one more gun, guns aren't discontinued. You can still make more guns. Only, the pieces of it are discontinued.

 

 

 

If these were IRL Christmas crackers, yes they would be discontinued, since those contain objects. But technically speaking, christmas crackers don't contain party hats in Runescape. They randomly generate a party hat and another item when used on another player.

[Dragons_Might]

Well aren't you clever?

 

 

 

They're discontinued. End of thread.

 

 

 

Like I said. HOW are they discontinued. A discontinued item is something that cant come into the game anymore. With partyhats, you cancrack a cracker and get one, that hasnt been in the game before, making it not discontinued.

[thegarrett73]

Well aren't you clever?

 

 

 

They're discontinued. End of thread.

 

 

 

Like I said. HOW are they discontinued. A discontinued item is something that cant come into the game anymore. With partyhats, you cancrack a cracker and get one, that hasnt been in the game before, making it not discontinued.

 

 

 

The nunber can only go down, no more parts, no more guns =)

[Soma2035]

The party hats are already in the game, just in another form. The point of calling something discontinued is that there is a finite source of it.

 

 

 

For example: Let's say there are 2 thousand party hats and 5 hundred christmas crackers. That still makes 2500 party hats in the game total. It's not replenishing, the number can only go down, so it's discontinued.

 

 

 

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1. to put an end to; stop; terminate: to discontinue nuclear testing.

 

2. to cease to take, use, subscribe to, etc.: to discontinue a newspaper.

 

 

 

To discontinue means you can not make any more of them. Seeing as this is Runescape, christmas crackers do not CONTAIN party hats. They CREATE party hats. They aren't programmed with a set party hat inside.

 

 

 

Therefore, the number of party hats can increase. So by the definition, he has a point, they aren't discontinued.

 

 

 

Well aren't you clever?

 

 

 

They're discontinued. End of thread.

 

 

 

If you want to post at least post why you think it is discontinued. What the OP is stating, and what I'm agreeing with, is that by the definition of the word "Discontinued" and by how this game works, party hats are NOT discontinued.

 

 

 

And finally, before someone says crackers do contain party hats, they don't. As evidence:

 

 

 

There have been multiple pictures of people stacking christmas crackers together in their bank, or in noted form. That indicates they are the same item, meaning that the party hat is selected and distributed AFTER the cracker is activated.

 

 

 

There have been incidences of people who opened a red p hat, were rolled back, and opened a yellow. I've heard of at least 10 incidences but only one I ever saw enough evidence to be certain of.

[Dragons_Might]

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The party hats are already in the game, just in another form. The point of calling something discontinued is that there is a finite source of it.

 

 

 

For example: Let's say there are 2 thousand party hats and 5 hundred christmas crackers. That still makes 2500 party hats in the game total. It's not replenishing, the number can only go down, so it's discontinued.

 

 

 

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ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâverb (used with object)

 

1. to put an end to; stop; terminate: to discontinue nuclear testing.

 

2. to cease to take, use, subscribe to, etc.: to discontinue a newspaper.

 

 

 

To discontinue means you can not make any more of them. Seeing as this is Runescape, christmas crackers do not CONTAIN party hats. They CREATE party hats. They aren't programmed with a set party hat inside.

 

 

 

Therefore, the number of party hats can increase. So by the definition, he has a point, they aren't discontinued.

 

 

 

Well aren't you clever?

 

 

 

They're discontinued. End of thread.

 

 

 

If you want to post at least post why you think it is discontinued. What the OP is stating, and what I'm agreeing with, is that by the definition of the word "Discontinued" and by how this game works, party hats are NOT discontinued.

 

 

 

And finally, before someone says crackers do contain party hats, they don't. As evidence:

 

 

 

There have been multiple pictures of people stacking christmas crackers together in their bank, or in noted form. That indicates they are the same item, meaning that the party hat is selected and distributed AFTER the cracker is activated.

 

 

 

There have been incidences of people who opened a red p hat, were rolled back, and opened a yellow. I've heard of at least 10 incidences but only one I ever saw enough evidence to be certain of.

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Exactly. A cracker cannot count as a partyhat, as you said. Also you pretty much better stated a few of the things I'm trying to say. lol :

[TheDark]

Christmas crackers are discontinued, and so are party hats, they come out of the christmas cracker. If there weren't any christmas crackers there wouldn't be any party hats. By the definition of discontinued you could say that party hats are discontinued but you could also say that they aren't. One way could be opening a christmas cracker and getting a party hat or the other would be that the christmas crackers contain the party hats and so then since the christmas crackers are discontinued you can't get any more party hats than existing party hats + crackers = total number. uhhh, yeah.

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

Only by definition are partyhats not technically discontinued, but you sure are arguing semantics here. The only way to get a partyhat (Cracker) is a discontinued function, and while there are some Christmas Crackers still out there, their number doesn't go up.

 

 

 

So in effect, it's an item that's not technically discontinued that comes from an item that is discontinued. Ergo, it's commonly perceived as discontinued. Do you follow?

[TheDark]

Pretty much what I said, but shorter :oops:

[Myweponsg00d]

They are discontinued. Even though there COULD be more partyhats by cracking crackers, there will never be more than a certain amount. By comparing this to any other item, we can see that any normal item has a constant flow into the game, and therefore is limitless as to how many, say, rune plates are/will ever be in the game.

 

 

 

Think of it this way, when mountain dew distontinued their selling of Live Wire, some stores still had stock. They didn't have to take their stock off the shelves and throw it away. If you look at consumers as the "players" in Runescape, you would still say Live Wire was discontinued, even though theoretically you can go buy one in a store. This sounds really confusing, I hope somebody can understand it...

[retaxis2]

There production has been discontinued. Therefore they are a discontinued items. The number of phats or possible phats will never increase.

[Enipeus]

I cracked a cracker about two years ago and the other person got blue partyhat and I got 5 noted iron ores.

 

 

 

so i've created a discontinued item. :twisted:

[n_odie]

Tell you what, work really hard. Get a chritmas cracker. Then make a thread. Then be like the guys (morons in my opinion) that would think thier funny and alch it?

 

 

 

think of a cracker as wrapping...

 

 

 

... really expensive wrapping.

[malo2]

alright, let's start a huge philosophical debate about nothing.

[n64jive]

at one time(recently) xmas crackers were worth more then blue party hats...so many would gamble hoping they get a blue by cracking them on their friends...

[Giordano]

People who are saying "Nuff said." or "End of thread." shut the hell up and get out. If you want to type one sentence and claim you are right with that measly little sentence, then go back to the first grade mate. :roll:

 

 

 

I do get what you mean Dragon and it makes sense by definition if we go with the idea that Crackers create party hats, not hold them. The basis of this idea is your opinion on what does the Cracker do. Creates, or holds the party hat.

 

In my opinion, Crackers hold the party hats thus making them discounted. Just a pure-opinon in this 2-opinion agruement. The only way to find out which one is true is by asking Jagex... :-k

[icecube]

alright, let's start a huge philosophical debate about nothing.

 

QFT.

 

 

 

I don't see why this discussion is necessary, and what could come out of it. There's only really two ways you can go and you only have so many ways to back up your opinion. I don't think anything new can truly be brought up.

[Rebdragon]

Argue semantics all you want, but this guy's got it right.

 

Well aren't you clever?

 

 

 

They're discontinued. End of thread.