Partyhats. Really Discontinued?

[@Dan3HitU]

Jagex said they are... So it must be true!

 

Jagex also said last year we would have Player Owned Shops.

 

Jagex also said 5 years go we would have Carpentry.

 

Jagex also said lots of other things.

[Japlin Chev]

Jagex said they are... So it must be true!

 

Jagex also said last year we would have Player Owned Shops.

 

Jagex also said 5 years go we would have Carpentry.

 

Jagex also said lots of other things.

 

 

 

Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it won't happen.

[jondea0]

you see what you have here is just dancing around terminology. does it count or not, id say not because there is not an infinite supply, but you could argue that discontinued means no longer creating and that would rule out p hats.

 

 

 

i think the first opinion is right because thats how it matters in this case, people know that there cant be any more and thats what gives it the discontinued status. to be honest your clutching at straws

[maxdout4life]

yes, the source of the phats is the crackers.

 

 

 

crackers=discontinued

 

phats=discontinued

[icecube]

Wouldnt it be nice to be walking, then all the sudden you get cracked and get a phat!

 

I thought the person who cracked it got the Party Hat and the other person got the random item, I could be wrong.

[Soma2035]

Wouldnt it be nice to be walking, then all the sudden you get cracked and get a phat!

 

I thought the person who cracked it got the Party Hat and the other person got the random item, I could be wrong.

 

 

 

No. It randomly decides who "wins" the party hat and the other person gets an item. At the time of the release, sometimes the item was worth far more than the party hat. :-w

[tehravenx]

I have heard that some people who are jagex members bring in rares. I think its a defiant possibility.

[Darkluniux]

You know that you know that the answer is that they are discontinued right? Or at least they exist in limited ammounts.

 

 

 

To me, this is more a philosiphycal conversation about a paradox than a serious conversation about Runescape's economy and it's spoliers.

 

 

 

Paradox: "Party Hats are discontinued, however, players can still create them by cracking a cracker".

[xSxqPowerx]

The source of the hats is discontinued.

 

To me that means they are discontinued.

[thisismine]

opening the cracker would trigger code to display the hat theres probably a ran# generated to set colour so the code for that hat is already there. they arnt making more.

 

 

 

if you think that by opening a craker creates a new one then by the same principle santas and so on arnt discontinued as every time some one logs on that has one and displays it it calls the code to produce it this is making a new one as the section of code wasnt in use before it was called

[Soma2035]

opening the cracker would trigger code to display the hat theres probably a ran# generated to set colour so the code for that hat is already there. they arnt making more.

 

 

 

if you think that by opening a craker creates a new one then by the same principle santas and so on arnt discontinued as every time some one logs on that has one and displays it it calls the code to produce it this is making a new one as the section of code wasnt in use before it was called

 

 

 

Wrong. Opening the cracker triggers code to randomly CREATE a hat and a random item, as shown by the fact that people have opened a cracker, been rolled back, and opened it again, receiving different items each time.

 

 

 

If an item is discontinued because the items used to create it are limited, then pretty much EVERYTHING in real life is discontinued. There's only so much matter in the universe that can be made into iPods, but we can still make iPods, meaning they aren't discontinued.

 

 

 

Again, only when the item itself can no longer be made, or is no longer made, is it actually discontinued.

[Locutus_Of_Borg]

Amulets of Accuracy, Arrav Shield Halves, and the Certificate you get from the Shield of Arrav quests are all discontinued in RSC.

 

 

 

Well, technically they aren't, as people who haven't done the 2 quests can still get those items. But there's probably only a few dozen accounts that haven't done them and they're probably not being used anymore.

[Locutus_Of_Borg]

opening the cracker would trigger code to display the hat theres probably a ran# generated to set colour so the code for that hat is already there. they arnt making more.

 

 

 

if you think that by opening a craker creates a new one then by the same e and displays it it calls the code to produce it this is making a neprinciple santas and so on arnt discontinued as every time some one logs on that has onw one as the section of code wasnt in use before it was called

 

 

 

You are so very wrong.

[thisismine]

i dont bother with anything that doesnt give stats so i didnt get the crackers, if you dont always get a hat from them then it still applies, if the condition is true it calls the hat generation code.

 

as for i pods, theyre associated with macs and therfore are rubish. how ever you will find that there is lots of carbon atoms being produced though fusion. base elements from nova to p[/i]roduce more ect

[thisismine]

ah i delete addons history ect the campus has public access so i wipe everything pretty often, it loads things back when you access runescape

[123Yourgone]

Party hats are discontinued, crackers are limited thus party hats are limited.

 

No one cracks crackers anymore anyway, even the richest stakers dont want to throw away 300-600m.

[Soma2035]

First: For whoever said there are infinite carbon atoms being produced, that is not true. If you want to get technical, we HAVE found what we think is the boundary of the universe. Therefore, the amount of matter we have is limited. Due to the law of conservation of matter, we can only make so much carbon even with fusion.

 

 

 

Second: There are plenty of people who throw away 300-600m. If they have 4-5B in items there really isn't all that much left for them to buy. Why not throw away a few hundred million so that you can have done something VERY few players have done? Also you do end up with a nice hat after that you can actually wear.

 

 

 

And finally, again, for whoever claimed because crackers are limited therefore party hats are, that's not enough. An item HAS to be limited itself. As in, the source is GONE, and it can no longer be made. Whether or not the source is discontinued is irrelevant.

 

 

 

There's only so much gold in the world. That doesn't make golden rings discontinued. Golden rings can still be made as long as we don't run out of gold.

[thisismine]

i never said there was infinite carbon atoms only that new elements are being produced so the source of the material for plastic/ ipod ect is still in production

 

 

 

to have found a limit to the universe the crictical mass must be =1, i didnt think that they could prove that?

 

are you talking about cbr ?

 

with extreme high energy explosions ie super novas it can produce heavy metals as well as rip appart more complex atoms so you could have nearly a cycle.

 

 

 

and i think your thinking aboutthe laws of energy conservation.

 

 

 

theorically energy can be converted to matter just as matter to energy though i doubt we could do it any time soon

[Shazarabbit]

Tell me who in their right mind would crack a Christmas Cracker?

 

 

 

Tell me who in their right mind is stupid enough to pay so much money for something that's so useless? That money could be better spent elsewhere.

 

 

 

Crackers should be changed so they can no longer be cracked, its only fair to stop the market in fluctuating.

[123Yourgone]

Tell me who in their right mind would crack a Christmas Cracker?

 

 

 

Tell me who in their right mind is stupid enough to pay so much money for something that's so useless? That money could be better spent elsewhere.

 

 

 

Crackers should be changed so they can no longer be cracked, its only fair to stop the market in fluctuating.

Its not useless, its a rare and exclusive item.

 

And even the richest players dont crack crackers anymore, hell i had 7.5 billion and i refused to crack the 2 i had, whens the last time some one actually cracked one?, the last time i heard was when they were about 300m cheaper then the current price.

[unorclan]

yes partyhats are disconinued because with the cracker already in the game, the partyhat inside the cracker, the phat is in the game already.

 

 

 

Not technically speaking...

[Zierro]

If you want to get technical then I guess you're right... lol :wink:

[darkmage099]

Been farming (93/99) and decided to ask something that I ask my friends alot. Are partyhats really discontinued?

 

 

 

Look at it this way. Where did Partyhats come from? Christmas crackers. Now wait- there are still more christmas crackers around the game! (idc if its only a few hundred, there still are).

 

 

 

Therefore, someone can pull a christmas cracker, and a brand new sparkly partyhat comes into the game. Wait. Isn't discontinued item something that can NEVER come into the game again? (unless you count hacking)

 

 

 

So truely. Partyhats aren't discontinued as new ones can come into the game. They would only be discontinued when there are no christmas crackers left.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A common counter argument I hear is that Christmas crackers are discontinued, so therefore only a limited number of partyhats can come into the game still. Does that change it? They still can come into the game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I want to hear other opinions. :

 

 

 

 

 

Your argument fails because the #of Phats + # crackers = DEFINITE # of phats total. Yes, they are discontinued because there is only a certain number that can be made forever.

[mrmyk]

If you want to get technical then I guess you're right... lol :wink:

 

 

 

Technically he's also wrong because there's a finite amount of crackers?

 

 

 

Crackers and party hats should be counted as different items really. They are very rarely popped and even then, 1 extra partyhat does not really mean they are able to go into the game at the same rate of say, rune essence. If an animal needs to have less than 15,000 members of its species in existence to count as "endangered", i'm still sure a species with 15,001 members will still count as endangered.

[No_99_Melee]

It's a "to each his own matter"

 

 

 

If you believe that with a non-replenishible source the item being derived from it is discontinued then you're right!

 

 

 

But if you think that the fact that it can still be made makes it continued then you're right as well!

 

 

 

And if you believe that two rights make a wrong then let me say

 

 

 

Right!

 

 

 

Now we can all go left :