Whats with merchant hating?

[ego_scorpion]

I see so many people cheering and being happy about the new udpate having the possibility of ending merchanting, but what I want to ask is this.

 

 

 

If you had the ability to make millions a day through merchanting, would you still be happy? Make a lot of money and buy all the things you wanted, wtihout spending hours picking flax, or cutting trees.

 

 

 

Merchanting is not something invented by the devil to trick the good players of runescape.

 

 

 

Merchanting is a simple skill, which ANYBODY is capable of. Its a means of obtaining that what you want, an alternate means to pking and dueling.

 

 

 

Do you think duelers would be happy if there was no more staking? Would pkers be happy if wilderness was removed?

 

 

 

Dueling and pking both take skill and in both cases one person ends up wtih everything while other with nothing.

 

 

 

Merchanting requires skill as well, but the end result is both people get what they want, with only difference being that one person doesnt realise he was paid too little or paid too much.

 

 

 

But if you can legitimately pull it off, without lying cheating or scamming, but rather through trading, whats wrong with that?

 

 

 

To all you people chering about end of merchanting, shame on you. Just because you are too young to understand economics or simply unable to pull it off dont hate on those who can do it. I gurantee that 99/100 of those "merchant hating" posts are people fool of jealousy and envy.

 

 

 

/end rant

[Jeffery]

Well i make a lot of money slaying so yes i don't care about merchanting but all the people who have no other way to make cash merchant, hell even on my pure i had to merchant lol

[Dharockslayer]

Merchanting is boring, and I doubt you would still want to stand around a bank shouting "Buying full rune 150k!" for hours at an end if you could just put it in the trade house and do something else.

[berbatovsky]

The thing is EVERYONE cane make money merchanting all it requires is an immunity to boredom, Jagex never intended for people to be able to make (literally billions) from buying and selling, as i said in the other thread this isn't a stock market simulation, I think people are slightly angry that someone with level 1 in every skill can buy and sell items untill he/she has billions, whereas a player who is self sufficient would NEVER be able to gather this wealth.

[Omali]

I don't really care all that much about merchanters, but they do tick me off when a new item comes out and it's hundreds of millions of gp for one day, then the price plummets to about 10% the next day. They're called scalpers and irl, doing that can land you in court.

 

 

 

But I can see why players are glad that this will ruin a lot of income for a lot of merchanters (not all, but a lot). This method almost guarantees that a player will have quick access to a generalized pricing plan for most of the items in the game. Since a lot of merchanters (a lot, not all) merchant by fooling a player into believing that he's getting a good deal for an item, then reselling for a profit, many players will see this as a legit scam and will be happy when any update comes around to hinder it.

 

 

 

Remember, in any law of supply and demand, nobody wants to get screwed by the middle man (merchanters)

 

 

 

And by the way, I passed advanced economics with a 96.

[ego_scorpion]

The thing is EVERYONE cane make money merchanting all it requires is an immunity to boredom, Jagex never intended for people to be able to make (literally billions) from buying and selling, as i said in the other thread this isn't a stock market simulation, I think people are slightly angry that someone with level 1 in every skill can buy and sell items untill he/she has billions, whereas a player who is self sufficient would NEVER be able to gather this wealth.

 

 

 

Oh forgive me, I didnt know jagex shares with you their plans for the game and in particular their thoughts on merchanting.

 

 

 

If someone has the patience to stnad there and yell out buying and selling then let them, how does that concern you? You go and cut yews for 30 hours without egtting bored and then sell them on exchange.

 

 

 

Your posts irritate me greatly I shall stop reading what you say. Your point of view is hypocritical, narrow minded and in my opinion not very intelligent.

[Randox]

I think many people dont like merchants, because while anyone can merchant, we cant all make a profit doing it. That just is not possible with only item exchange. So for you to get rich merchanting, you have to take away money from other people. Everytime merchanting makes you richer, someone else just got a bit poorer too.

 

 

 

I dont merchant, though I do sell the fruits of some of my skilling for a good profit. This benifits me because the time spent selling red chinchompas can now be used to get more of them to sell. And now it will be much easier to get things as cheep as I can which is a good thing.

 

 

 

It will be interesting to see th eresult though. Maybe something unforseen will happen and cause dramatic price changes. Might make rc'ing for profit a bit tricky though, since buy-x now exists. So runes wont be sellable for more than shop price.

[SuperS]

Mostly Jealousy that they have to rc or fletch whatever for how many hours to make any decent ammount of money.

[tetrak]

For merchants to actually make money they need to sell at a profit... And the player that ends up buying the item from the merchant could have saved a fair amount of money by buying straight from the person the merchant got the item out of. That's what I hate of merchants, they increase the cost of everything.

[SuperS]

For merchants to actually make money they need to sell at a profit... And the player that ends up buying the item from the merchant could have saved a fair amount of money by buying straight from the person the merchant got the item out of. That's what I hate of merchants, they increase the cost of everything.

 

 

 

 

 

Or they keep it stable? Depends which way you look at it.

[Goldenjkered]

People who say that merchanters are noob, or they are bad for the game, are generally people who can't merchant themselves, or people who are jealous of others wealth.

[tetrak]

If the original providers increase the prices too much the buyers won't even bother to buy, and thus the price will again end up lowering. Merchants have no place in the circle, they're just leeches.

 

 

 

Oh, and to the poster above. Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty sure I'm smart enough to merchant, I'd just rather work on my skills, even when making less money through it, and not feel like I just ripped someone.

[NJE03]

Money isn't everything, and obtaining things I want at the expense of other does not seem appetizing to me.

[TheDecline]

The thing is EVERYONE cane make money merchanting all it requires is an immunity to boredom, Jagex never intended for people to be able to make (literally billions) from buying and selling, as i said in the other thread this isn't a stock market simulation, I think people are slightly angry that someone with level 1 in every skill can buy and sell items untill he/she has billions, whereas a player who is self sufficient would NEVER be able to gather this wealth.

 

 

 

my thoughts exactly.

[quitthegame]

I don't really care all that much about merchanters, but they do tick me off when a new item comes out and it's hundreds of millions of gp for one day, then the price plummets to about 10% the next day. They're called scalpers and irl, doing that can land you in court.

 

 

 

Scalping tickets lands you in court because the tickets are marked not for resale. That makes your analogy false, and deceptively so.

 

 

 

Since a lot of merchanters (a lot, not all) merchant by fooling a player into believing that he's getting a good deal for an item, then reselling for a profit, many players will see this as a legit scam and will be happy when any update comes around to hinder it.

 

 

 

This sentence mixes the future and the past tense, contains an oxymoron, and uses pronouns with no clear antecedent. The problem I have with that is that it obscures what you are trying to say, namely, that you and many other players are ok with merchanters who make money from offering convenience, but not ok with merchanters who make money from knowing more than their clients. But, imagine a world where no one liked to "be a merchant". Still, in the marketplace some people would have more knowledge than others and would profit from that knowledge. Therefore, the absence of merchants wouldn't actually put an end to the practice of people making money from knowledge, it would merely mean that these profits were distributed differently. Whoever used/created a lot of certain products would be the de facto merchants in those categories.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Remember, in any law of supply and demand, nobody wants to get screwed by the middle man (merchanters)

 

 

 

This is nonsensical. What does it mean to be screwed by the middle man in a law of supply and demand? You convert yourself into letters of the alphabet, insert yourself into a law, and then get screwed by a phat merchant? Great...

 

 

 

And by the way, I passed advanced economics with a 96.

 

 

 

Stranger things have happened. Rarely.

[highlanders]

They're angry because they're not the ones making the millions

[InkofDeath]

People should realize what merchanting actually means, and not what they think it means. I just think most people think merchanting is where you take advantage of one's knowledge of RS Prices, and sells the item very high, and then buys it very low.

 

 

 

However merchanting you buy only 1-20gp below the average price, and sell for 1-20gp above normal price. Which really isn't scamming. Also, merchanting means you'll be able to estimate price drops, or price rises, and use those to your advantage...

 

*Only a simulation, this excludes rare selling, and other variables that affect merchanting.*

[berbatovsky]

The thing is EVERYONE cane make money merchanting all it requires is an immunity to boredom, Jagex never intended for people to be able to make (literally billions) from buying and selling, as i said in the other thread this isn't a stock market simulation, I think people are slightly angry that someone with level 1 in every skill can buy and sell items untill he/she has billions, whereas a player who is self sufficient would NEVER be able to gather this wealth.

 

 

 

Oh forgive me, I didnt know jagex shares with you their plans for the game and in particular their thoughts on merchanting.

 

 

 

If someone has the patience to stnad there and yell out buying and selling then let them, how does that concern you? You go and cut yews for 30 hours without egtting bored and then sell them on exchange.

 

 

 

Your posts irritate me greatly I shall stop reading what you say. Your point of view is hypocritical, narrow minded and in my opinion not very intelligent.

 

 

 

Well since this was posted in general discussion i was under the impression my thoughts were welcome, apparently not, sorry for the inconvenience.

 

 

 

Also learn the meaning for words before using them, the only way my post could by hypocritical was if i merchanted and I assure you i don't.

[jessy87]

Do you think duelers would be happy if there was no more staking? Would pkers be happy if wilderness was removed?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

because perhaps being a stake requires pre-involvement. where merchanting doesnt. sure, it might somtimes but not always. and even if it always does. theirs not nearly enough risk involved to make mils a day.

 

 

 

 

 

oh so, you bought a rare for 20m? and it goes down 1 mil WOW such risk.

 

if your not stupid, you tend to make your $ back with merchanting for each buy/sell session.

 

 

 

honestly, how often do merchants go negative on trades? once a week? if that? now, if i goto ajavascript:void(0);

 

Add image to post godwars dungeon i risk my life and items i probably bought or killed something like that boss for and i could lose it? and i might not end up with the possiblity of $ making in a day a merchant did? does not seem like risk is worth the reward. hence merchanting cowardice.

[ego_scorpion]

 

Also learn the meaning for words before using them, the only way my post could by hypocritical was if i merchanted and I assure you i don't.

 

 

 

Actualy, perhaps you should learn to understand the words before telling people to learn their meanings.

 

 

 

You dont seem to be complaining about pkers or duelers, yet are happy about merchants getting screwd. Either way, Even if they merchanting impossible period, I already have 10 billion I dont care what happens, im just gonna miss making millions a day just for sake of having.

[ego_scorpion]

Do you think duelers would be happy if there was no more staking? Would pkers be happy if wilderness was removed?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

because perhaps being a stake requires pre-involvement. where merchanting doesnt. sure, it might somtimes but not always. and even if it always does. theirs not nearly enough risk involved to make mils a day.

 

 

 

 

 

oh so, you bought a rare for 20m? and it goes down 1 mil WOW such risk.

 

if your not stupid, you tend to make your $ back with merchanting for each buy/sell session.

 

 

 

honestly, how often do merchants go negative on trades? once a week? if that? now, if i goto ajavascript:void(0);

 

Add image to post godwars dungeon i risk my life and items i probably bought or killed something like that boss for and i could lose it? and i might not end up with the possiblity of $ making in a day a merchant did? does not seem like risk is worth the reward. hence merchanting cowardice.

 

 

 

Your random rambling makes little sence.

 

 

 

My point is if staking was taken out stakers would be upset, if wilderness was taken out pkers would be upset.

 

 

 

Staking and pking are ways of making $, they chose that, I chose merchanting.

 

 

 

We werent talking about risk factor, but rather perference.

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

For whatever reason I associate a merchant with someone that's manipulated the system so well that they're making a huge profit. In many cases, with most every merchant that I've dealt with had a near allergy or resentment towards me for not wanting to profit the "easy" way. What they'd do is buy low, sell high -- not hard to do, but definitely time consuming. Me, being the practical person that I am, decided instead to practice the skills that I have to make more money instead of spending all day in a full server, selling at often times, just one item for a profit.

 

 

 

I don't really like merchants because I don't see them as seriously beneficial to the game as a whole, nor do I think that they're playing for fun. If you play a game just to make a profit, what are you playing for? [You should probably go to the real stock market instead of wasting your time on RS.]

 

 

 

Well that's how I see it, anyway. Pending the new Grand Exchange, if any merchants quit over it, they didn't need to be playing in the first place.

[Huta]

Merchant love 4 lyphe <3 <3 <3 :D

 

 

 

If you hate us, you're jealous. If you don't, good for you.

[jessy87]

Do you think duelers would be happy if there was no more staking? Would pkers be happy if wilderness was removed?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

because perhaps being a stake requires pre-involvement. where merchanting doesnt. sure, it might somtimes but not always. and even if it always does. theirs not nearly enough risk involved to make mils a day.

 

 

 

 

 

oh so, you bought a rare for 20m? and it goes down 1 mil WOW such risk.

 

if your not stupid, you tend to make your $ back with merchanting for each buy/sell session.

 

 

 

honestly, how often do merchants go negative on trades? once a week? if that? now, if i goto ajavascript:void(0);

 

Add image to post godwars dungeon i risk my life and items i probably bought or killed something like that boss for and i could lose it? and i might not end up with the possiblity of $ making in a day a merchant did? does not seem like risk is worth the reward. hence merchanting cowardice.

 

 

 

Your random rambling makes little sence.

 

 

 

My point is if staking was taken out stakers would be upset, if wilderness was taken out pkers would be upset.

 

 

 

Staking and pking are ways of making $, they chose that, I chose merchanting.

 

 

 

We werent talking about risk factor, but rather perference.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

little sense? yet it does make sense doesnt it? the fact is the game is based on things like that.

 

 

 

 

 

why do we care what you do? or if your way of existence is eliminated? you over react about it being eliminated why dont you grow up and quit the drama club.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Merchant love 4 lyphe <3 <3 <3 :D

 

 

 

If you hate us, you're jealous. If you don't, good for you.

 

 

 

wow, and people tell me i have a big ego for calling any1 under 110 combat a low lvl.

[thisismine]

simple you spend hours to get something ( alot of skills arnt that exciting) then you sell what you got and then the person you sell to goes and resells it for more you could have probably got more yourself but theres o many other sellers/ buys (on teh trade worlds) you cant see who to go to, id prefer and auction house system similar to wow.