November 15, 200718 yr In modern usage in the field of mechanics, weight and mass are fundamentally different quantities: mass is an intrinsic property of matter, whereas weight is a force that results from the action of gravity on matter. However, the recognition of this difference is, historically, a relatively recent development ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ and in many everyday situations the word "weight" continues to be used when "mass" is meant. For example, we say that an object "weighs one kilogram"; that kilogram is a unit of mass. .
November 15, 200718 yr I know it's a force...but it just sounds so stupid to me..."I weigh 60 newtons" You weight 60N? :shock:
November 15, 200718 yr I know it's a force...but it just sounds so stupid to me..."I weigh 60 newtons" You weight 60N? :shock: He raises a good point :-k . I'm pretty sure most healthy babies weigh more than that... [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series.
November 15, 200718 yr I know it's a force...but it just sounds so stupid to me..."I weigh 60 newtons" You weight 60N? :shock: He raises a good point :-k . I'm pretty sure most healthy babies weigh more than that... Isn't 60N 6k kgs? On earth that is. Doomy edit: I like sheep
November 15, 200718 yr Isn't 60N 6k kgs? On earth that is. No, it's more like 6_ kilos :P . Which is like 9 pounds or something. Hate conversions. [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series.
November 15, 200718 yr reading through this thread.. i'm hoping that all we're having is some breakdown of communication and that the education system hasnt effed up that badly. one of my physics teachers is a moron and i still manage to understand it.
November 15, 200718 yr Isn't 60N 6k kgs? On earth that is. No, it's more like 6_ kilos :P . Which is like 9 pounds or something. Hate conversions. I think it's about time for you yanks to adopt SI units. :P
November 15, 200718 yr apparently nobody on this thread knows that mass=weight/volume, something that should have been taught in 6th grade :-k LOL! EPIC FAIL. I see the problem in communication here, you are an idiot. Lol, nicely put Indy. Since I have to add something to this post... Mass is actually m0/sqrt(1+1/(v^2/c^2)) where v is your relative speed, c is the speed of light in vacuum and m0 is your mass while rested.
November 15, 200718 yr apparently nobody on this thread knows that mass=weight/volume, something that should have been taught in 6th grade :-kSo since weight depends on, say, what planet you happen to be standing on, if I were to travel to Mars, my mass would dimish? But since mass and energy are really two aspects of the same thing, and energy is never destroyed only transformed, that mass would have to go somewhere... Hmz... Into, for example, my speed! I'm self-accelerating! -This message was deviously brought to you by:
November 15, 200718 yr I recommend you quit physics at the first chance. I quit it and i know literally nothing about science, its blissful ignorance. :lol:
November 15, 200718 yr Isn't 60N 6k kgs? On earth that is. No, it's more like 6_ kilos :P . Which is like 9 pounds or something. Hate conversions. 1 kilogram ~= 2.2 pounds 60 kilos = ~132 pounds Assuming 60N is roughly 60 kilos (I have no idea the relationship between the 2) then that isn't an unusual mass / weight on Earth. "We will certainly not be gaining money or members with this update. Instead, we are doing this for the good of the game, which is as dear to our hearts as it is to you."- JAGEX, December 13, 2007
November 15, 200718 yr Well, nobody says "It's 273 degrees Kelvin outside!" in Europe either. . .Not in summer anyway.
November 15, 200718 yr Isn't 60N 6k kgs? On earth that is. No, it's more like 6_ kilos :P . Which is like 9 pounds or something. Hate conversions. 1 kilogram ~= 2.2 pounds 60 kilos = ~132 pounds Assuming 60N is roughly 60 kilos (I have no idea the relationship between the 2) then that isn't an unusual mass / weight on Earth. The relationship, as has been stated a few times in this thread, is that 1kg = 9,8N since the gravitational force is roughly 9,8 m/s^2 That's what's way off in the quoted text.
November 15, 200718 yr apparently nobody on this thread knows that mass=weight/volume, something that should have been taught in 6th grade :-k LOL! EPIC FAIL. I see the problem in communication here, you are an idiot. Lol, nicely put Indy. Since I have to add something to this post... Mass is actually m0/sqrt(1+1/(v^2/c^2)) where v is your relative speed, c is the speed of light in vacuum and m0 is your mass while rested. Pft, relativistic effects are negligible on earth. :P "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo"
November 15, 200718 yr Perhaps I'm wrong, but I thought that when you measured something in Newtons, it was how much gravitational force you had on the ground. Then thats why your mass is still the same on whatever planet your on but your Newtons may become smaller if you were on the moon....or larger if you were on Jupiter. Retired 8th October 2007 | 99 Fishing | 99 Cooking | Owner of a Red Mask and 2 Santa Hats |
November 15, 200718 yr No, it's more like 6_ kilos :P . Which is like 9 pounds or something. Hate conversions. 1 kilogram ~= 2.2 pounds 60 kilos = ~132 pounds Assuming 60N is roughly 60 kilos (I have no idea the relationship between the 2) then that isn't an unusual mass / weight on Earth. It's 6 kilos not 60. Which, in my error, is more like 13 pounds. Damnit. To the metric system America! [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series.
November 15, 200718 yr No, it's more like 6_ kilos :P . Which is like 9 pounds or something. Hate conversions. 1 kilogram ~= 2.2 pounds 60 kilos = ~132 pounds Assuming 60N is roughly 60 kilos (I have no idea the relationship between the 2) then that isn't an unusual mass / weight on Earth. It's 6 kilos not 60. Which, in my error, is more like 13 pounds. Damnit. To the metric system America! The best thing to do is keep your imperial and metric measurements separate. Don't measure your weight in pounds if you are going to use it in a formula, which only uses metric (SI) units. Only use imperial to compare with other imperial measurements. The best thing to do is not to try to convert one into the other, because you end up multiplying with awkward decimal numbers, so if you need to, measure yourself twice, one in metric and one in imperial. If you have a weight scale which only measures in imperial, it's too old and impractical in science. If it measures only in metric, it's too impractical for domestic use, unless it is only used in scientific work. If it simultaneously measures metric and imperial (but not by conversion from one to the other), use it. Avoid conversion at all costs. And Potter_Pkr is right. You weight is a force exerted on the surface of the object you are standing on (In the vast majority of cases, planet Earth). Since it is a force, it is measured in Newtons. Newtons are defined as 'The force required to accelerate an object of mass 1kg at a rate of 1m/s^2.' They are linked, but there are dodgy conversions from N to kg, so again I suggest that you weigh the object again for weight and mass separately. There is no harm in repeat experimentation. ~ W ~
November 15, 200718 yr ...Since I have to add something to this post... Mass is actually m0/sqrt(1+1/(v^2/c^2)) where v is your relative speed, c is the speed of light in vacuum and m0 is your mass while rested. Oh, come on... The poor guy is trying to understand the difference between mass and weight, and you are explaining him relativistic effects of high speed to mass? That's a mean thing to do. :shame: This signature is intentionally left blank.
November 16, 200718 yr Newton or N is the force of gravity pulling down on something IE and apple is 5N or 5 Newtons ( no i didnt weight it just exampling) Dragon Drops: Platelegs x9, Med Helms x7, Plateskirts x4, Shield Left Half x3, At least 75+ Boots!, Hatchets x5, Ruined Shard x1, Solo Claws x2, Dragon 2Hander x1, Spear x2Whip x27, Dark Bows x9, Draconic Visage x1 <- do that when you see me :P
November 17, 200718 yr Point is, I've lived for 10 years of my life In Europe. I have NEVER heard someone say "Oh...I weight 80 Newtons, how about you?" in Europe. SI doesn't mean European. Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall:
November 17, 200718 yr Weight=force mass=the actual ammount there. When you step on a scale, it shows you your mass based on your weight (your mass affected by the gravity of earth). But people always say it's their "weight" when in reality it is their mass that they know. So when a persons say they weigh X kg/lbs, they are not wrong, its just they are using the wrong word, they should say their mass is. Doesn't really matter though, its one of those things that unless your talking about science, its really no use. Sig by IkuraiYour Guide to Posting! Behave or I will send my Moose mounted Beaver launchers at you!
November 17, 200718 yr Well, nobody says "It's 273 degrees Kelvin outside!" in Europe either. . .Not in summer anyway. No one ever says degrees Kelvin. It's just Kelvin. EX: 273 Kelvin = 0 degrees Celcius "We will certainly not be gaining money or members with this update. Instead, we are doing this for the good of the game, which is as dear to our hearts as it is to you."- JAGEX, December 13, 2007
November 17, 200718 yr Nope, she's not mistaken. Might as well get used to it..you're gonna be using Newtons a lot.
November 18, 200718 yr when you step on a scale, you measure your weight, NOT your mass. It is physically impossible to find your mass... There are 10 types of people: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.Appreciate Bacteria! It's the only form of culture some people have.The brain's right side controls the body's left, so only lefties are in their right mind.School!
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