Zombie Plans-Revised

[Kiriyama]

Zombie Outbreak could be fun.

 

 

 

Though I often wonder where we would actually be heading to, I mean, we'd need a pilot, driver and someone able to use a boat in order to get anywhere, plus we'd need multiple modes of land transportation to carry fuel, ammo and food.

 

 

 

I think the best place to head for would be a well built up area, as there would be many tall buildings, which are easier to defend. I.E. Barricade stairs (face it, zombies probably wouldn't be able to use elevators or ladders).

 

 

 

But you would also need it able to hold stuff like buses we use for transport, making a supermarket more viable. As the buses could also be used to barricade any way for the zombies to enter, while we stick on the roof with two people guarding the way up there and the others picking off zombies until it is safer to move (assuming light weakens them slightly).

 

 

 

Oh and its "You're" not "Your".

[BlackDawn]

Zombie Outbreak could be fun.

 

 

 

Though I often wonder where we would actually be heading to, I mean, we'd need a pilot, driver and someone able to use a boat in order to get anywhere, plus we'd need multiple modes of land transportation to carry fuel, ammo and food.

 

 

 

I think the best place to head for would be a well built up area, as there would be many tall buildings, which are easier to defend. I.E. Barricade stairs (face it, zombies probably wouldn't be able to use elevators or ladders).

 

 

 

But you would also need it able to hold stuff like buses we use for transport, making a supermarket more viable. As the buses could also be used to barricade any way for the zombies to enter, while we stick on the roof with two people guarding the way up there and the others picking off zombies until it is safer to move (assuming light weakens them slightly).

 

 

 

Oh and its "You're" not "Your".

 

New plan, you're our idea guy. Though you may want to buy a copy of the zombie survival guide first. :ugeek:

[Kiriyama]

Nah, I've played some games including Zombies. (And saw the Resi films)

 

 

 

Buildings with little or no windows are essential. Failing that, a Basement or roof make good defensive points.

 

 

 

Generally, it is better to move during the day, and have alot of light at night. This can hamper the vision of the zombies as it would to a human, however, it is possible that they can smell the flesh of the living allowing them a basic route to where we are, though less likely to see things in their way in the light. Make sure lights are either infront, or behind you, and do not impair your own vision.

 

 

 

If animals such as birds are able to be infected, then a flamethrower would be a must in order to deal with these winged pests. Other animals can be shot, though in the case of smaller rodents, stairs will greatly hamper them, but flamethrowers still essential in dealing with them as they are hard to hit due to size. Dogs have the advantage of speed, though are easier to hit than smaller animals.

 

 

 

If you take out a zombie's legs, they can still drag themselves along the ground, however, this makes them even easier targets as they are slower. Advisable to take out one leg if you are not a good shot, as it is likely they will be unable to walk, making their head an easier target.

 

 

 

If we assume these zombies are capable of climbing ladders, then fixed ladders will have to be taken down, and all ladders should be taken onto roofs if needed to access said roof, more than one ladder should be kept at all times, and remember to pull it up, since its a pain if you have to kick it down. Though can provide a good ambush if you want to smash some zombie heads once they appear.

[BlackDawn]

I'm going to disagree with the basements, they aren't as good a place to defend as you'd think. A roof on the other hand is an excellent place to be, as long as you have enough supplies of course. Windows? On the ground floor it is useful to have few, on the upper floors you should have quite a lot, more escape routes as well as more sniper positions.

 

 

 

Flamethrowers are useful for birds or such true, but they are incredibly heavy meaning you will have difficulty staying mobile while carrying one.

 

 

 

Moving at night is a no, hands down, the only exception is if you can hear the shuffling of undead feet closeby, in which case you should move fast. Lights at night time are also essential, though you'll want to keep the noise down.

 

 

 

ALWAYS DESTROY THE STAIRCASE! This is an incredibly important part of information, if the staircase is destroyed and you have a ladder on the second floor with you, then you're safe from those decaying bastards.

 

 

 

Overall your research is pretty damn good, your a valuable asset to the team, make sure you talk with me about this stuff first though ;).

[Kiriyama]

Actually, if the basement only has one narrow enterence, then it is a pretty easy place to defend.

 

 

 

I'd agree on destroying the stairs if they are wide, however, creating a choke point at them can be an effective way of dealing with any that get in the building leaving less danger during the day. No point in surviving the night if you are going to be ambushed during the day.

 

 

 

Being mobile with a flamethrower isn't generally a good thing anyway, if you are in one place, then its easier to alert the birds to where you are, making it easier to burn them. Two people with flamethrowers standing back to back would be the best idea as it allows easier coverage of all angles. Hopefully the then burning birds will be able to set more alight.

 

 

 

Molotov cocktails can be useful, and they can seriously hamper you. Using in a building would be a big no-no. However throwing them into the middle of a lot of zombies in say, a parking lot might be able to cause some damage to them.

[BlackDawn]

The problem I have with basements is partially the single entrance, what if they get past us? Then we're all screwed as theres no other exit. We need to think ahead and have an escape route planned.

 

 

 

True enough, the only problem I have here is what if a constant wave of them attack that narrow entrance? Sooner or later they'll break through, of course it would be easier to escape as we would be on another floor with multiple windows. But if we need to stay in this place for awhile we need to destroy the staircase completly, we could rest easier too as we'd feel much safer then having that open space, even if it's guarded 24/7.

 

 

 

I have no protests to the flamethrower thing, nice idea here.

 

 

 

Again I have no protests, no molotov's in a building, only in open spaces outside.

 

 

 

If we keep this up we're gonna be pretty damn prepared for any zombie situation. ;)

[Kiriyama]

Well, I see where you are coming from about basements and stairs now.

 

 

 

Though when it comes to food, I'd say we only take tinned stuff, as it lasts the longest. Save frozen food which actually needs to be kept frozen.

 

 

 

I think, a team of at least 12 would be best, with 6 awake during the day, and 6 at night. Between 12, I'd say 3 buses, with 4 in each bus, two sleeping, one driving and one providing defence with a mounted weapon, preferably 2 Mounted LMGs and 1 Mounted Flamethrower incase of an attack of birds during the day, with the flamethrower having 360 degree turning capability and being in the middle. Of course, for every 4 more survivors, you should have another bus, following the pattern. Buses should have all windows removed and replaced with a durable metal grill.

 

 

 

Since alcohol is flammable, I suggest using that as an incendiary instead of fuel which we'd need for transport. Cylinders of natural gas should be taken in order to cook for (camping stoves).

[BlackDawn]

No protests here, tinned food is easily the smart option, though we'd better make sure to bring can openers ;).

 

 

 

Once again I have no problems here, you've thought it out pretty well.

 

 

 

Yup, no protests at all again, your an incredible asset to the tip.it zombie task force.

 

 

 

We'll of course have to make sure everyone is properly armed at ALL times, depending on what weapon suits them we would give out crowbars and machetes as a primary melee weapon, a kitchen knife or two for secondary. For firearms it's their own choice, personally i'd pick either a sniper rifle of some sort or a semi auto rifle.

[Furah]

Since alcohol is flammable, I suggest using that as an incendiary instead of fuel which we'd need for transport. Cylinders of natural gas should be taken in order to cook for (camping stoves).

 

 

 

In Australia we drink our alcohol, most people would punch you for that suggestion!

[Kiriyama]

I also think it would generally a good idea to have someone who can handle heavier, blunt weapons. If these zombies are capable of climbing ladders, then someone strong enough to use a sledgehammer would be an assest there because the sheer force of the hit should both kill the zombie, and throw him down, hopefully taking a few more to the ground with him.

 

 

 

Assuming we can't find a cure, we have to make sure we are capable of killing one who is infected, then either cremating him/her (what I'd go for) or throwing the body into the zombie masses (alcohol soaked clothing lit on fire of course).

 

 

 

Throwing knives might make a good assest, despite being single use until you can pick them out the zombie's head safely enough. And everyone should have at least 1 9mm pistol. 2 if they are capable of firing two at once without hamerping accuracy all that much. That, and the 9mm would be perfect if we had to kill one of our own who is infected, unless you want to slit their throat with a knife, or hack the head off, but a 9mm shot through the brain would be the quickest way.

 

 

 

And dude, being drunk is not a good idea when you are surrounded by the masses of zombies. Though some should be kept for drinking in celebration once we are all done and safe (that and we'd burn the cheap crap first).(And I'm not suggesting that we burn good old Scottish whiskey.)

 

 

 

Which makes me wonder, could zombies get high? A few makeshift smoke grenades made with marijuana smoke might prove effective if they can.

[mmmcannibalism]

Which makes me wonder, could zombies get high? A few makeshift smoke grenades made with marijuana smoke might prove effective if they can.

 

 

 

if a zombie still uses the human nervous system its possible THC would still bond like it does in a human causing some form of intoxication.

[BlackDawn]

Good plan here, and seeing as we're searching for these people here on the forums then I suggest we check out the RL pic thread ;).

 

 

 

Cremation is the safest option, the virus burns along with the corpses.

 

 

 

Throwing knives may seem like a good option, but in reality they are extremely hard to use, you would rarely get a headshot with them, even a master with them would have trouble. The pistol i'll agree with, everybody needs a sidearm.

 

 

 

I may be a little to young for drinking but that sounds good to me. (Save me some of that whiskey)

 

 

 

I doubt zombies can get high, they can't breath, so the marijuana would be put to better use if we decided to have a party.

 

 

 

And i'm off for tonight, perhaps we can continue our preperations tomorrow ;).

[Zierro]

Zombies need to have a good time too so why not trick them into going into water parks... water parks full of holy water.

[baalboy5]

Zombies need to have a good time too so why not trick them into going into water parks... water parks full of holy water.

 

:twss:

[Wisp]

If we follow the zombie survival guide definition, Solanum (zombie virus) is only in humans, and it is fatal to anything else. So if a dog bites one, and gets some fluids in it's mouth, dead dog. Even if birds could be infected, lighting them would be stupid. The last thing you need is hundreds of fireballs crashing into your stronghold. They would light it on fire, and do more damage than they would have if we didn't use a flame thrower. Destroying the stairs is necessary, unless you have an extremely maintained perimeter. Basements are trouble, if there's a fire or a gas leak or anything, you could be trapped and die. Buses are also a bad idea, in most cases. They are slow, very inefficient, and we would run out of gas quickly. Plus, in any apocalypse the streets would be littered with abandoned cars and other obstacles, making driving near impossible. Light doesn't hamper their vision at all, it just tells them where we are. Having bright lights would just make us a giant beacon, all the zombies for miles would come to us. According to the guide, zombies lack the coordination to climb ladders, usually, though about 1 in 10 (I forget the exact number) might make it up a short ladder.

 

A city is the worst idea possible. Hate to say it. Do we want to be in a place filled with millions of zombies? If the military ever tries to retake areas, they might just carpet bomb the city, it's a lot easier than going in and killing countless zombies. The best place to be would be in the middle of no where. Like hundreds of miles away from anything. But that's not always a possibility, so at least somewhere slightly remote is best.

 

 

 

Cremation is the best option for getting rid of corpses, but simply burying them once the brain is destroyed works if fire is not an option.

 

 

 

And I call being zoey from l4d

[Lenticular_J]

That's why motorcycles are the best ground vehicle (for civilians, a tank would probably be better in general...), unless you're going a short enough distance that a bike can be used.

 

 

 

I never understand why people want to light zombies on fire. I mean, seriously. Think of everything on the planet. Add fire. Throw it at yourself. Is that better?

[Wisp]

I agree lent. I mean, if you're in a controlled environment, or it doesn't matter what you burn, fire is good, but other than that.

 

And motorcycles are the best for short to medium distances. Bicycles are the best for long, since they don't need fuel. Well the best would be a helicopter, but there wouldn't be many just lying around for the taking.

[mmmcannibalism]

I agree lent. I mean, if you're in a controlled environment, or it doesn't matter what you burn, fire is good, but other than that.

 

And motorcycles are the best for short to medium distances. Bicycles are the best for long, since they don't need fuel. Well the best would be a helicopter, but there wouldn't be many just lying around for the taking.

 

 

 

well a helicopter is only the best if you can ensure a fuel supply, otherwise mountain bikes are better.

 

 

 

A thought on weapons, would a lever action rifle be an amazing choice, it has a better rate of fire then a bolt action but having to operate the lever promotes thinking between shots.

[Furah]

That's why motorcycles are the best ground vehicle (for civilians, a tank would probably be better in general...), unless you're going a short enough distance that a bike can be used.

 

 

 

I never understand why people want to light zombies on fire. I mean, seriously. Think of everything on the planet. Add fire. Throw it at yourself. Is that better?

 

 

 

Only if you're faster then it or if it can't reach you

 

 

 

I agree lent. I mean, if you're in a controlled environment, or it doesn't matter what you burn, fire is good, but other than that.

 

And motorcycles are the best for short to medium distances. Bicycles are the best for long, since they don't need fuel. Well the best would be a helicopter, but there wouldn't be many just lying around for the taking.

 

 

 

Just hope that there is an airfield nearby, or an army facility you could break into, that would be preferable for the attack helicopters with extra fuel tanks.

[Dizzle229]

Another variable to consider:

 

 

 

Are they the Romero zombies, that move slowly, require a headshot, and aren't too intelligent?

 

 

 

Are they the Return of the Living Dead zombies, fast, invulnerable, and intelligent?

 

 

 

Are they living infected, like in Left 4 Dead and 28 Days later, that are fast, not too intelligent, and can die from anything that would kill a human?

 

 

 

Are they Land of the Dead zombies, slow, with some intelligence that allows them to organize and set traps, and require a headshot?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

By the way, if they're Return of the Living Dead zombies, we'd be screwed. Check this out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I couldn't find a vid, but there's also a scene where a zombie calls for a police convoy. A who collum of cars comes, and a zombie cop stands in front of the convoy and waves for them to stop. When they get out, they're ambushed from the sides.

 

 

 

If zombies are able to organize, we're all screwed.

[Wisp]

Zombie survival guide zombies are romero type zombies. Planning for return of the dead is pretty much impossible, unless you can make a get away to the moon. l4d zombies is basically just hole up and pray they don't find you. Land of the Dead zombies is pretty much the same as our plan, just hole up somewhere..

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[Wisp]

Just a thought...Honey has everything needed to sustain life...So I vote on bringing an artificial bee's nest. And yeah, us tipiters are well prepared for zombie attacks.

 

But how many of us could actually, physically do what we plan? How many people actually know how to shoot a gun, build a shelter, and so on?

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[Wisp]

Just a thought...Honey has everything needed to sustain life...So I vote on bringing an artificial bee's nest. And yeah, us tipiters are well prepared for zombie attacks.

 

But how many of us could actually, physically do what we plan? How many people actually know how to shoot a gun, build a shelter, and so on?

 

 

 

Not many :|

 

Well, I'm certified in Wilderness First Aid, CPR, stuff like that, I've shot a gun, I play paintball/airsoft occasionally. But I don't know how far that would get me...