meme79 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 i hear you can breakeven makeing scrolls and selling on ge...but takes tons for lvls... -.- XBL gamertag: SeismicTriangle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elishot Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 If you don't like the skill, stop whining, and don't train it. Simple as that? Yeah I think so. Especially for the lot of you that keep commenting on how "useless" the skill is and how it doesn't offer any substantial gain in anything (highest monster hitting 19 or whatever). It's different - Get over it, it's not cooking, which for god's sake almost has the entire front page full of people with 200m xp in it, which takes a whopping 3 months to do if using sharks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakitsym_Rose Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 If you don't like the skill, stop whining, and don't train it. Simple as that? Yeah I think so. Especially for the lot of you that keep commenting on how "useless" the skill is and how it doesn't offer any substantial gain in anything (highest monster hitting 19 or whatever). It's different - Get over it, it's not cooking, which for god's sake almost has the entire front page full of people with 200m xp in it, which takes a whopping 3 months to do if using sharks. It has no money making potential and the combat potential appears very low since you can only use it in multi. It's not that we don't want to work for our XP it's that it's 90% of RS can't afford to get it over level 70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elishot Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 If you don't like the skill, stop whining, and don't train it. Simple as that? Yeah I think so. Especially for the lot of you that keep commenting on how "useless" the skill is and how it doesn't offer any substantial gain in anything (highest monster hitting 19 or whatever). It's different - Get over it, it's not cooking, which for god's sake almost has the entire front page full of people with 200m xp in it, which takes a whopping 3 months to do if using sharks. It has no money making potential and the combat potential appears very low since you can only use it in multi. It's not that we don't want to work for our XP it's that it's 90% of RS can't afford to get it over level 70. 90% of rs can't afford to get a partyhat either. But yet.. people don't whinge about it, they ''envy'' them and "oh i wish i had a partyhat". In the time it would take an average player to get 99 summoning, he could be making money while summoning. Do people not remember that monsters drop clues and drops? I'm sure since this stat is SO slow, while people are getting the charms the monsters they kill will also drop expensive items. Especially if slayer is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qeltar Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Mark my words... write this down somewhere, folks, and feel free to hit me over the head with it later. In a few months, Summoning will completely change this game. The monsters and effects that right now seem "useless" to some people will be exploited and good uses for them found by those who are more creative. And then others will copy them. You'll see. Qeltar, aka Charles KozierokWebmaster, RuneScoop - Premium RuneScape Information for Expert Players -- Now Free!Featuring the Ultimate Guide to Dungeoneering -- everything you need to know to get the most of the new skill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuRe_MoNk_89 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 im sure this has already been said, but jagex seem to keep on makin bad decisions.... completely ruin pking, which lost em thousands of members, get everyone who stuck around hyped up for summoning saying were gonna get great rewards... wtf lvl 96 i can have a yak carry a random item to the bank for me.. HELL YEA THATS WHAT ILL BUST MY BALLS FOR YEARS FOR (h).. i was readin about itin the manual and i thought the .1 exp for summoning a monster was just a screw up.... this is the biggest let down, personally i have better things to do wit my time then sit around for hours upon hours "pouchcrafting" like others have already said.. have fun with this one zezima :lol: :lol: wonder who actually attempts for 99? but iono i could b wrong about everything and it gets improved a lot better in feb.. either way i been retired now for iono how long, rs has sucked for a while now, ever since ds closed... summoning ... :XD: maxed out melee back in 06, when it was still considered an accomplishment. same with getting 85 slayer, was in the top 2k players to get it. R.I.P Runescape.. Feb 2, 02 - Jan 2, 08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chc05dude Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 That's the point! You CAN'T powerlevel it! Even when spending 1B on it, you'll still have to collect thousands of Charms! They are untradeable. So I get the feeling that you are more taken aback by the thought of having to level this skill by yourself.I've finally decided that fook-a-ji is the worlds most sly troll. I wish there were a way to ignore his posts. He takes what he has learned in his 2,000 posts, and tries to get a rise out of people in the most stealthy of ways(no direct insults). Well actually, he directly insults, just doesn't use flaming words. Ah well. WTB ignore button. He switched stances in this thread a couple times just to poke at peoples nerves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlayerIsLife Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Stop whining and go do some other skills if you don't like summoning that's not jagex's fault that you are poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chc05dude Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Enough said. Im so sorry that this isn't fletching for you and you cannot have lvl 99 by the end of the week. Jagex has said for awhile this skill is not going to be easy and ridiculously fast to train. And that it is similar to prayer, in the way it affects its combat and its cost. I mean think if you bought all your bones to get to lvl 99 prayer? Thats pretty costly. I know construction cost well over 100m for the cheaper ways. Prayer, dragon bones? Before our guilded alters and such imagine that. Stop complaining, ways of training will be surfaced, and released, remember we're getting an update just as big as this one in a month. Calm down. Please people. Im sure jagex will have some other training methods for us on the 2nd update. http://hiscore.runescape.com/hiscoreper ... ight_zaros Where is your 99fletching and 99cooking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly_Wizard Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 So, I'm wondering, out of the people who think this is a 'great skill', how many of you actually have the means to reach level 99? Maybe a few of you do, but I'd be willing to bet that the majority of you don't. Fundamentally flawed =/= Challenging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlayerIsLife Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 So, I'm wondering, out of the people who think this is a 'great skill', how many of you actually have the means to reach level 99? Maybe a few of you do, but I'd be willing to bet that the majority of you don't. Fundamentally flawed =/= Challenging. well. so what if we can't make it to 99. we don't whine about it. Jagex stated out that it's going to be costly and hard skill. so deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharockslayer Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Stop whining and go do some other skills if you don't like summoning that's not jagex's fault that you are poor. Even if I was a rich bucket of lard wich changes his golden underpants every so many minutes, I wouldn't waste my time on this rediculously slow to train skill. Personally, I have NO problem with extremely gp wasting methods of training, infact, I endorse them. HOWEVER, You are paying your well earned 200m + gp on a skill wich trains SLOWER then runecrafting, and is just as tedious, without any possible way of making huge money, or lots of usefull things. So basically, you are paying your very hard earned cash on grinding wich won't get you nowhere, well maybe 99 summoning after a year and a half or so. Rich people deserve to train a skill the fast way, and poor people deserve the medicore to slow way. However, only the rich can train it now, and I doubt any of them really has the attention span or the lack of braincells to actually train this baby to 99. Interrested in joining the cabbagy madness? Click here to go to our forums, and say hi ^^lol one of the biggest pvp updates of the year, and tip it is discussing granite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoskedyou Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I felt this is a way for jagex to disguise their deflation, as they stated a few times the amount of gold circulating Rs is more than they'd like. i think there is a reason why they gave you the amount of tokens from the quest, and a reason for the high costing shards.. To get rid of some of that GP in Rs in this golden chance to remove the effect of inflation from alching (why do you think they arent lowering the price for Yew longs and such?). I have a feeling it will be more proportionate in the updates to come. This was round one it isnt over yet. I relized this when it was to late, as i already spent over 100k to get level 16 from 4. I like the skill just not the cost. For now its slayer training for me. BTW i do love the extra 64 bank spaces that came with the skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlayerIsLife Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Stop whining and go do some other skills if you don't like summoning that's not jagex's fault that you are poor. Even if I was a rich bucket of lard wich changes his golden underpants every so many minutes, I wouldn't waste my time on this rediculously slow to train skill. Personally, I have NO problem with extremely gp wasting methods of training, infact, I endorse them. HOWEVER, You are paying your well earned 200m + gp on a skill wich trains SLOWER then runecrafting, and is just as tedious, without any possible way of making huge money, or lots of usefull things. So basically, you are paying your very hard earned cash on grinding wich won't get you nowhere, well maybe 99 summoning after a year and a half or so. Rich people deserve to train a skill the fast way, and poor people deserve the medicore to slow way. However, only the rich can train it now, and I doubt any of them really has the attention span or the lack of braincells to actually train this baby to 99. Well then go train some other skill and stop complaining about summoning. Jeez... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoskedyou Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Stop whining and go do some other skills if you don't like summoning that's not jagex's fault that you are poor. Even if I was a rich bucket of lard wich changes his golden underpants every so many minutes, I wouldn't waste my time on this rediculously slow to train skill. Personally, I have NO problem with extremely gp wasting methods of training, infact, I endorse them. HOWEVER, You are paying your well earned 200m + gp on a skill wich trains SLOWER then runecrafting, and is just as tedious, without any possible way of making huge money, or lots of usefull things. So basically, you are paying your very hard earned cash on grinding wich won't get you nowhere, well maybe 99 summoning after a year and a half or so. Rich people deserve to train a skill the fast way, and poor people deserve the medicore to slow way. However, only the rich can train it now, and I doubt any of them really has the attention span or the lack of braincells to actually train this baby to 99. Well then go train some other skill and stop complaining about summoning. Jeez... Agreed. Hopefully a break through and reasonable cost to train the skill will be found. Or they will give us a update. (And stop sandbagging us imo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlayerIsLife Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 @ lvl 40 there's pretty cheap way. you need 11 shards, gold charm n marigold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharockslayer Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Well then go train some other skill and stop complaining about summoning. Jeez... You are about as hard to convince as a religion believer you know that? Why did that happen? Because its written. Why did Jagex make this skill so overly complicated, too expensive, too slow and a waste of time? Who cares, stop complaining. I'm done now, but nowhere near stopping to rant about summoning let me tell you. Interrested in joining the cabbagy madness? Click here to go to our forums, and say hi ^^lol one of the biggest pvp updates of the year, and tip it is discussing granite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_Rdam Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I totally agree with you, the charms is the biggest problem, they could fix it with the shards but the charms are killing me. I like the whole idea and all, but they should've thought of this before. Credits to Skully Sc for the signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FooK-A-Ji Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 That's the point! You CAN'T powerlevel it! Even when spending 1B on it, you'll still have to collect thousands of Charms! They are untradeable. So I get the feeling that you are more taken aback by the thought of having to level this skill by yourself.I've finally decided that fook-a-ji is the worlds most sly troll. I wish there were a way to ignore his posts. He takes what he has learned in his 2,000 posts, and tries to get a rise out of people in the most stealthy of ways(no direct insults). Well actually, he directly insults, just doesn't use flaming words. Ah well. WTB ignore button. He switched stances in this thread a couple times just to poke at peoples nerves. lol thanks for making my day funny :mrgreen: ooh btw, i have 5000 more posts from a forgotten era of tip.it :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FooK-A-Ji Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Enough said. Im so sorry that this isn't fletching for you and you cannot have lvl 99 by the end of the week. Jagex has said for awhile this skill is not going to be easy and ridiculously fast to train. And that it is similar to prayer, in the way it affects its combat and its cost. I mean think if you bought all your bones to get to lvl 99 prayer? Thats pretty costly. I know construction cost well over 100m for the cheaper ways. Prayer, dragon bones? Before our guilded alters and such imagine that. Stop complaining, ways of training will be surfaced, and released, remember we're getting an update just as big as this one in a month. Calm down. Please people. Im sure jagex will have some other training methods for us on the 2nd update. http://hiscore.runescape.com/hiscoreper ... ight_zaros Where is your 99fletching and 99cooking? He doesn't need 99 fletching to know what he's talking about. With your logic, you and others don't have the right to talk about 99 summonning than either, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tameelf Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Mark my words... write this down somewhere, folks, and feel free to hit me over the head with it later. In a few months, Summoning will completely change this game. The monsters and effects that right now seem "useless" to some people will be exploited and good uses for them found by those who are more creative. And then others will copy them. You'll see. hammer .nail.head i am really likeing something about this update.i like the chalange of having to lvl a skill personaly burrrppp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flobberdude Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Mark my words... write this down somewhere, folks, and feel free to hit me over the head with it later. In a few months, Summoning will completely change this game. The monsters and effects that right now seem "useless" to some people will be exploited and good uses for them found by those who are more creative. And then others will copy them. You'll see. Looking in a new light, the beaver seems like it would be really sweet with the harvest tool, and possibly one of those "good uses". I'm just not sure about one thing: With a beaver, does the special move chop magic logs from a magic tree, or just normal logs from a magic tree? And do you need 75 Woodcutting? My intuition would say Yes, No, but that's such a great benefit that it's definitely false. I mean, it's not as if this is supposed to be a great skill with some nice rewards... Proud member of the Tal Shiar AllianceGoals: Quest cape, skill range 10 or less, all stats above 60. (Although yes, I am aware that in order to do the first two, I have to do the third.)----I am sick and tired of people asking me to put stuff in my signature. If you agree with me, do NOT put this in your signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carcher Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I know there are useful things in summoning and really I'm waiting for the next group to come in. When you look up summoning you'll find a lot of reserves there and even a level 99 one, I want to see what that holds. I've been trying to find uses, like I think a combo of the Ibis: Fish Rain thing and the other special from a monster in where you can eat raw fish. Though I can't see lossing 4 inventory and spending a lot of gp for something like maybe 80 hp tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C110 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Well, its seems okay, even though I dont see the use for most off the things yet..But shards @ 50 ea? Charms that you have to get 1 by 1..? I also dont like the fact that you get xp for making pounches, but you hardly get xp if you summon and use the summed npc... Colo - I'm not proud of everything I've done, but I have no regrets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I just dont get why oh why you dont get summoning exp the same as combat. 4xwhatever your summon hits on an enemy. It adds to cmb lvl but you cant get any exp for it from cmb? rediculus All they have to do is add that and imo summoning would be fine. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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