Macav's. How does it pay itself back to me?

[ValaraZ]

Well, Macavs have a nice habbit of collecting herns for me.

 

 

 

Their special is doable about 2.5 times per 3 minutes and usually it brings me a herb.

 

 

 

I tried it with about 30 scrolls and got back 5 ranarrs, 3 kwuarms and a bunch of lower level /cheaper herbs.

 

 

 

Is this how the familiars are suppose to pay me back?

 

 

 

If it is, it just might do it, not with a landslide but in a way it will.

 

 

 

And some nice pics Jessy asked me to post also:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Has anyone else tested other ways to make back some gold used on summoning?

[jessy87]

wow, i was hoping remote view was better.

 

 

 

 

 

oh well... still

[magekillr]

lol...someone told me about a macaw.

 

 

 

just like the rewards posted here, theirs sucked as well. they were happy with the fact that it flies around though lol.

 

 

 

strike one for "rewards"...2 left (with 3 reserved for february)

[helring]

It seems like the special isn't great, but maybe jagex is taking into consideration the improved herb drops ability as well. I mean maybe with higher summoning lvls it helps enough if you keep renewing the summon.

[jackal_55]

a little off topic, but i can see that remote view ability as very useful, in you're with a team in BH, its just a harder to spot scout.

 

 

 

but the RS newspost about summoning paying for itself was just someone at jagex blowing their own horn.

 

the only way is if you're constantly killing hard monsters with rare drops like steel dragons, or monsters that commonly drop rune items like nechraels do over hundreds of hours.

 

it will pay for itself in supplies, eventually, but unlike the content test teams that they based that on, we can't manipulate drop ratios.

 

its to be expected, the people at jagex HQ have never been good at admitting mistakes. :roll:

 

 

 

anyways, summoning has given me an advantage, i'll be lower level than most other people with my abilities when they release 1V1 BH. :wink:

[aoe325]

a little off topic, but i can see that remote view ability as very useful, in you're with a team in BH, its just a harder to spot scout.

 

 

 

but the RS newspost about summoning paying for itself was just someone at jagex blowing their own horn.

 

the only way is if you're constantly killing hard monsters with rare drops like steel dragons, or monsters that commonly drop rune items like nechraels do over hundreds of hours.

 

it will pay for itself in supplies, eventually, but unlike the content test teams that they based that on, we can't manipulate drop ratios.

 

its to be expected, the people at jagex HQ have never been good at admitting mistakes. :roll:

 

 

 

anyways, summoning has given me an advantage, i'll be lower level than most other people with my abilities when they release 1V1 BH. :wink:

 

 

 

I'll be the first one to laugh when a Rune Minotaur Bull rushes you :P

[aussy4321]

a little off topic, but i can see that remote view ability as very useful, in you're with a team in BH, its just a harder to spot scout.

 

 

 

but the RS newspost about summoning paying for itself was just someone at jagex blowing their own horn.

 

the only way is if you're constantly killing hard monsters with rare drops like steel dragons, or monsters that commonly drop rune items like nechraels do over hundreds of hours.

 

it will pay for itself in supplies, eventually, but unlike the content test teams that they based that on, we can't manipulate drop ratios.

 

its to be expected, the people at jagex HQ have never been good at admitting mistakes. :roll:

 

 

 

anyways, summoning has given me an advantage, i'll be lower level than most other people with my abilities when they release 1V1 BH. :wink:

 

 

 

I'll be the first one to laugh when a Rune Minotaur Bull rushes you :P

 

 

 

Just playing around with the Kalphite, Scorpion, Bronze Minotaur and Vampire Bats. I've seen some Normal hit's for over 12.

 

I'm talking about Combat 35 Monsters, with 20-36 Summoning needed.

 

 

 

Once someone can summon a Hydra, Spirit Dagganoth, Rune Minotaur or even a Karamthulhu Overlord... your doomed :

[ReapMe]

well since you get 10 scrolls per pouch, i can see where it is profitable gathering herbs

[Bobbington]

A little off topic, but ic you can could you get your macaw to fly into priffdannas? (the elf city) I would like to know whats in there :)

[jonni]

a little off topic, but i can see that remote view ability as very useful, in you're with a team in BH, its just a harder to spot scout.

 

 

 

but the RS newspost about summoning paying for itself was just someone at jagex blowing their own horn.

 

the only way is if you're constantly killing hard monsters with rare drops like steel dragons, or monsters that commonly drop rune items like nechraels do over hundreds of hours.

 

it will pay for itself in supplies, eventually, but unlike the content test teams that they based that on, we can't manipulate drop ratios.

 

its to be expected, the people at jagex HQ have never been good at admitting mistakes. :roll:

 

 

 

anyways, summoning has given me an advantage, i'll be lower level than most other people with my abilities when they release 1V1 BH. :wink:

 

 

 

I'll be the first one to laugh when a Rune Minotaur Bull rushes you :P

 

 

 

Just playing around with the Kalphite, Scorpion, Bronze Minotaur and Vampire Bats. I've seen some Normal hit's for over 12.

 

I'm talking about Combat 35 Monsters, with 20-36 Summoning needed.

 

 

 

Once someone can summon a Hydra, Spirit Dagganoth, Rune Minotaur or even a Karamthulhu Overlord... your doomed :

 

 

 

3 People can summon Karamthulhu already :ohnoes:

[lamby01]

Another way to make back some money is using the Spirit spiders and scroll Egg Spawn, collect the red spiders eggs, about 9 to 15 per 10 scrolls, then sell them at the GE or save them for herblore.

[diib]

Well, Macavs have a nice habbit of collecting herns for me.

 

 

 

Their special is doable about 2.5 times per 3 minutes and usually it brings me a herb.

 

 

 

I tried it with about 30 scrolls and got back 5 ranarrs, 3 kwuarms and a bunch of lower level /cheaper herbs.

 

 

 

Is this how the familiars are suppose to pay me back?

 

5 ranarrs = 5*7000 = 35000 gp.

 

cost = 1 pouch for maccaw + 3 pouches for 30 scrolls = 4 pouches.

 

4 pouches = 4*78 shards = 4*78*25 gp = 7800 gp. Let's round that up to 10k because of the time to collect the guams and charms.

 

 

 

Thus

 

35k gp - 10k gp = 25k gp pure profit! :D

 

 

 

I can't summon maccaws myself yet, so if this is completely wrong, you can say so without being all condescending or insulting.

[gypsyeater]

maybe when your a higher summoning level you will get more herbs from it???

[Saru Inc]

a little off topic, but i can see that remote view ability as very useful, in you're with a team in BH, its just a harder to spot scout.

 

 

 

but the RS newspost about summoning paying for itself was just someone at jagex blowing their own horn.

 

the only way is if you're constantly killing hard monsters with rare drops like steel dragons, or monsters that commonly drop rune items like nechraels do over hundreds of hours.

 

it will pay for itself in supplies, eventually, but unlike the content test teams that they based that on, we can't manipulate drop ratios.

 

its to be expected, the people at jagex HQ have never been good at admitting mistakes. :roll:

 

 

 

anyways, summoning has given me an advantage, i'll be lower level than most other people with my abilities when they release 1V1 BH. :wink:

 

 

 

I'll be the first one to laugh when a Rune Minotaur Bull rushes you :P

 

 

 

Just playing around with the Kalphite, Scorpion, Bronze Minotaur and Vampire Bats. I've seen some Normal hit's for over 12.

 

I'm talking about Combat 35 Monsters, with 20-36 Summoning needed.

 

 

 

Once someone can summon a Hydra, Spirit Dagganoth, Rune Minotaur or even a Karamthulhu Overlord... your doomed :

 

 

 

 

 

Thats what I was thinking. I mean, whatabout having a rune minotaur help you KQ?

[Happysniff]

Is you blind? Its Macaw, and you can clearly see that in your screenies ^_^

 

 

 

Interesting method there, I might try it, if I decide to get summoning up.

[Carcher]

Well it can get a lot of herbs. With the forger effect it can get 1 herb randomally for just letting it out. Then there is the special which has a chance to get a herb instantly and when fighting monsters it has a higher chance to get better herbs from the loot, but I don't know if ranarr is considered a better herb as its a very low herb compared to most.

 

With this you can get an amazing amount of herbs and possibly better ones to! Which can easily pay off what the macaw cost to summon.

[Solidus_77]

but the RS newspost about summoning paying for itself was just someone at jagex blowing their own horn.

 

 

 

The ability to extend your inventory and get herbs pays for summoning. It's a matter of statistics. Sounds to me like you're the one who's just blowing hot air.

 

 

 

 

 

the only way is if you're constantly killing hard monsters with rare drops like steel dragons, or monsters that commonly drop rune items like nechraels do over hundreds of hours.

 

 

 

Wrong. There are plenty of monsters that have more favorable drop rates and summons can help that. Summons can help you in your kill which means you can do more kills and more kills leads to more drops on average. Sure you won't notice the difference if you take a tiny sample but overall you'll notice just how incredibly helpful the summons are.

 

 

 

it will pay for itself in supplies, eventually, but unlike the content test teams that they based that on, we can't manipulate drop ratios.

 

 

 

We can increase our chances by killing more monsters at a faster rate. That's exactly what summons help to accomplish.

 

 

 

its to be expected, the people at jagex HQ have never been good at admitting mistakes.

 

 

 

says the ignorant who bases his entire opinion on an extremely limited part of the skill.

 

 

 

Looks like a lot of people underestimate the summons by saying "oh well I can hit more therefore they aren't strong". I wonder if these people are forgetting that you fight WITH your summon and the CUMULATIVE damage is far more than what you could accomplish on your own. Even the most basic summons allow for a little bit of extra damage which, overall, will make a difference. Then just imagine the top level summons which can hit half as good as I can with my godsword. That means I can, on average, kill 3 things in the time it would take to kill 2. Do you realize how much that is?

[hellbellz]

That's right, Solidus. They seem great in the long run. :)

[tryto]

Im sure they do help somewhat, but what if you took the money you could have used on summmoning and bought better equipement? Upgrading to a godsword over a whip would probably help more than a minotaur temporarily, especially against bosses. Alternatively, using super sets would be probably be more cost-efficient and give almost or better increase in kills, and gives extra xp.

[Dexek]

The summoning monsters seem very useful at higher levels. Hitting regular 10+ at 20-30 summoning is quite a help when you consider what type of damage the higher levels could do, not even considering the special. This could help a lot with various aspects of the game, and the stat could easily pay for itself. It just seems that people get annoyed with the lower levels. Cross that bridge, and summoning becomes useful. :

[Will H]

Im sure they do help somewhat, but what if you took the money you could have used on summmoning and bought better equipement? Upgrading to a godsword over a whip would probably help more than a minotaur temporarily, especially against bosses. Alternatively, using super sets would be probably be more cost-efficient and give almost or better increase in kills, and gives extra xp.

 

 

 

It's the whole xp/money ratio thing. However, I think that it's important to remember that the strongest player of the lot is the person who buys the good equipment first, then uses his increased drop rate to invest in some potions, and then invest in summoning. Use all of them at once!

 

Uber Equipment + Uber Potions + Uber Summon = Uber Ownage.

 

 

 

Oh, and I think that once you get to the point of having a whip, it's much more cost efficient to get a good summoning level than investing in an expensive Godsword.

[Solidus_77]

Im sure they do help somewhat, but what if you took the money you could have used on summmoning and bought better equipement? Upgrading to a godsword over a whip would probably help more than a minotaur temporarily, especially against bosses. Alternatively, using super sets would be probably be more cost-efficient and give almost or better increase in kills, and gives extra xp.

 

 

 

If you're looking at comparative advantage, then summons are MUCH better than a godsword/equipment. Much cheaper in the long run.

 

 

 

Furthermore, why limit yourself? Get both.

[Ravenkana]

The summoning monsters seem very useful at higher levels. Hitting regular 10+ at 20-30 summoning is quite a help when you consider what type of damage the higher levels could do, not even considering the special. This could help a lot with various aspects of the game, and the stat could easily pay for itself. It just seems that people get annoyed with the lower levels. Cross that bridge, and summoning becomes useful. :

But the area has to be multicombat for your familiar to battle... and most of Runescape is SINGLE combat... And look at the expense to actually SUMMON the higher level monsters. The Pak Yak requires 5 k worth of shards and the Rune Minotaur requires a 12 k runite bar to summon...

[x1992x]

The summoning monsters seem very useful at higher levels. Hitting regular 10+ at 20-30 summoning is quite a help when you consider what type of damage the higher levels could do, not even considering the special. This could help a lot with various aspects of the game, and the stat could easily pay for itself. It just seems that people get annoyed with the lower levels. Cross that bridge, and summoning becomes useful. :

But the area has to be multicombat for your familiar to battle... and most of Runescape is SINGLE combat... And look at the expense to actually SUMMON the higher level monsters. The Pak Yak requires 5 k worth of shards and the Rune Minotaur requires a 12 k runite bar to summon...

 

 

 

thats why jagex invented the chaos dunguon! :roll: :D :lol:

[Samittaja]

The summoning monsters seem very useful at higher levels. Hitting regular 10+ at 20-30 summoning is quite a help when you consider what type of damage the higher levels could do, not even considering the special. This could help a lot with various aspects of the game, and the stat could easily pay for itself. It just seems that people get annoyed with the lower levels. Cross that bridge, and summoning becomes useful. :

But the area has to be multicombat for your familiar to battle... and most of Runescape is SINGLE combat... And look at the expense to actually SUMMON the higher level monsters. The Pak Yak requires 5 k worth of shards and the Rune Minotaur requires a 12 k runite bar to summon...

 

Having a level 109 fight by your side aswell as hold 10 items for you: Priceless.