compfreak847 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I was going to rock lobsters, and after spending over an hour, I finally found one. We went through the doors, then he admitted he had never actually done this. He asked if I could help and show him how. My first thought was "arrgh, there goes my next half hour of potential bursting". Luckily, I decided to help him anyway. I walked him through the dungeon, stopping for several minutes to restore his energy despite that fact that I had my terrorbird and scrolls. I lead him to the spot, and spent quite some time demonstrating just how to lure the lobsters, telling him how to improve his inventory and what to do if things went wrong. He thanked me profusely, and asked me to keep him added in case he had other questions, which I did. I hopped and started bursting when I realized - I was a lot happier about helping someone then I would have been about a couple dozen charms. Which leads the the discussion; is helping people really the ultimate reward, not skills, items, or gold? Obviously its only a part, but I feel a lot better about helping someone then I did about an achievement, such as 99 Magic. I suppose some people are entirely one way or the other, and it may not apply to a whiny noob that just wants free stuff, but still... (No, this thread is not about me being a good guy helping a poor helpless noob, just a discussion on how helping people is more important then most people seem to think. If you don't believe me, try helping someone yourself) Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Gabe Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Depends on the situation. Three months banishment to 9gag is something i would never wish upon anybody, not even my worst enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Kindness is something we lost over the years. I remember when I first joined people in Lumby helped me showed me some things the basics to survive. But now everyone is too busy getting something done or trying to do something to help someone. But people who ask for help are rare most people want an item or money now adays. But helping someone is the best because then they like you and guess what that noob you helped one day might be someone very important around Runescape and guess what they'll be your friend. But yes helping someone is something that saves runescape and keeps it a multi player can rather than everyone do something on their one and ignore everyone who tries to talk to them. I remember in early Rs2 almost nobody had their Friends list on Friends or Off let alone the Public chat and people were willing to help you at the drop of a hat. As long as there is some people helping someone then they will learn to help someone else keeping the cycle going. Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everhappy111 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 anyway, you get a lot from helping others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hades712 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 That's one of the reasons i wish unbalanced trading was back. Even if someone in castle wars bank said "Buying 1 law 1k", i would generally just give it to them for free. I can still do that with laws of course, but I wish i could still do that with other things too. Some people just need to be nice to others, and it really is a shame that this aspect of the game has been lost through the years. I personally don't feel as I'm a novice player in the slightest, but I had no idea how to burst rock lobsters, as i was doing the "6" lob method. One day, though, someone popped up on my world and showed me how to do the 8-9 method which helped me a lot. It's a trickle down domino effect too, because i ended up showing another person how to do this method. People just need to be nicer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Some of the newbies I've helped have ended up becoming good friends and even growing stronger than me. It's always worth it. My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triquos Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I donate money all the time to the fally party room, especially if I get a nice drop. Once I donated 4M and the very next day my picture was published in the gallery :D so it does come back tenfold ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yes_Its_Ross Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 That really inspired me. :P I think I'm gonna start being more kind. ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suiku Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 At falador one time, I was asking for a brown apron, so a lvl 100 (or so) cames by and open trade with me showing one, and then said "3k", ...3k?! I couldn't believe how someone would try to scam with something so simple, but yea I did it anyways... I wasn't desesperate, but something on my inside told me he could need it, even when he denied it. Anyway some minutes later I was showing out my new gravestone to a friend, and some person comes by and asks me where he could get a gravestone like that, I told him, later he comes back, says "Thank you" and open a trade with me offering 15k! I got what I missed from the brown apron the same day, just by "helping" two people at the time, I guess is how Earl says: "Do good things and good things happen to you, good bad things and they come back to hunt you :mrgreen: " EDIT: btw I think it's not like "go somewhere to find someone to help" it's more like when you see someone on your chatscreen asking for help, you could try help him. Veteran Cape Owner (10 year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicroLegionnaire Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I don't mind helping most of the time, pointing lost players to where they need to go and all that, but when they get really clingy, I can't stand them. I helped this person do Troll Stronghold once, but immediately after that she demands I help her with Tourist Trap right after we were done with Troll Stronghold, and had the audacity to ask that I walk her through every single quest leading up to Desert Treasure, as well as DT itself. Helping's good, but a total stranger demanding 7 hours of your time for something that tipit's quest guides could easily substitute, that's overstaying your welcome a little bit don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted June 16, 2008 Author Share Posted June 16, 2008 I don't mind helping most of the time, pointing lost players to where they need to go and all that, but when they get really clingy, I can't stand them. I helped this person do Troll Stronghold once, but immediately after that she demands I help her with Tourist Trap right after we were done with Troll Stronghold, and had the audacity to ask that I walk her through every single quest leading up to Desert Treasure, as well as DT itself. Helping's good, but a total stranger demanding 7 hours of your time for something that tipit's quest guides could easily substitute, that's overstaying your welcome a little bit don't you think? Yup. That's why, as a rule of thumb, I tend to help higher levels more then lower ones. Higher levels understand that you can't devote your day to them, and are smart and experienced enough to figure out most stuff themselves. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cha0sx Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 To be honest it depends completely on the mood I'm in if I help others. Sometimes I feel good about helping others, sometimes I feel like I wasted my time. It also depends on the person I'm helping's attitude. I also hate when strangers ask you to take like hours of your time to help though. I mean come on, have some common sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimakomoto Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 In my mind, helping others can be good or bad. If I want to help you when you ask for, ok, fine. If it just seems *that* obvious, I'm probably not likely to help at all. If people whine, rage, and rant at me until I help them, it won't happen. However, if you show kindness to a person, they just might return the favor. It's risk vs reward, but I'm not saying that you *shouldn't* help others. depends on the person asking, among other factors. [/ramble] Need a new signature....perhaps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizz Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Being kind is completly worth it, I remeber one time I helped member player with the Hunter skill and felt alot happier about it. A few days later he got like 80 Hunt and gave me some free cash (Around 500k I think, before Trade Limit) and he still has be added, I sometimes go with im Cwaring or something. Shame he stopped logging on after Vacation but I'm sure I'll see him alot during Vacations. But this feeling that you helped changed someone life is a good feeling inside because it's unselfish, It like an you helped created that person, a Pupil per say like another you, and you will always have this feeling inside of you. Wongton is better than me in anyway~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcoolj Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I help out often, and am helped often too. Just today after finishing Zogre quest, someone gave me a dose of anti-disease potion :) Small helpful things are very much still in vogue, and make you feel all warm n fuzzy :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenkana Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Helping people is a good thing. Unfortunately, Runescape doesn't really seem to involve much of this spirit. First, most tasks can be done alone, with no help whatsoever. In fact, I can only think of three or four things in game that MUST be done with a group. Because of this, players often go it alone and only cooperate when needs must. Ever played Castle Wars or Pest Control? How much order and teamwork do you see there? How many insults do you hear, often between team mates? This also stems from the many younger players who frequent the site. Plus we also have, let's face it, horrible clan support. The only things that Jagex have seen fit to give clans is a horrible chat system and a lousy minigame, and that was only last year. So, all in all, Runescape tends toward the do-it-your-selfer, not the team player. If the CORPORAL beast is this hard, imagine how hard a GENERAL or COLONEL beast would be. a corporal is not even an admirable rank in armies that use that ranking system. Yeah, it is a pking minigame, so any arguments anybody makes will probably be biased.The best way this will end :Everybody just says,"I'm not arguing with you anymore, goodbye."The worst way this will end: I don't really know, psychological warfare? Worldwide thermonuclear war? Pie eating contest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I always love to help others out, I do find it as the best reward. I find my joy in helping people out with whatever they are doing. Before the trade changes, I would host random drop parties for people, I gave a full rune set *my only one* just for the heck of it, and a bunch of other things. No, I never did it for the recognition, but rather it felt like the right thing to do. I'd rather spend my time helping others out rather than doing my own thing. With the changes, I find I play less and less because the opportunity to help others by giving items out, is non existent anymore. What can you do... And just to point out, I don't like the idea of Karma, when you specifically try and do something good hoping for good in return. Come on, it's just not worth it. A reflection is just a distorted reality held by glass and your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mementh Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 if its advice or gen info..... i usually will help.. if its more.. it really depends.. I hate though pms from random strangers asking for help :( The following statement is true. The previous statement is false. 60% of all statistics are made up 90% of the time andrew i love you & want you to have my babys!!! Finally, I get to save the Earth with deadly lasers instead of deadly slide shows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximusa Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Its a difficult decision to make as 9 out of 10 of people you try help are ungrateful. Overall no I rather not as the majority spoil it for the minority. I will sometimes if they seem polite enough though. I help either way with simple things. Example I was mining and someone had been wondering around the area for a while. Disappearing and turning up again. I just presumed he struggling with some quest and a little amused. Then he just kinda cheerfully grumbles that he finds the sextent for a clue scroll difficult to use. I knew a few spots it might be at and told him. After he tried and failed (It was a different location to what I could think up in the local area) I asked for the co-ordinates which were a bit south of our location. Since he was really polite and listened to my first advice I just quickly showed him.. Its more hassle than not as I could of lost my spot. Spending 15 minutes world hopping for a new one watching a log in screen. Anyway I managed to to find it with him and everyone was happy. He was polite and thankfull but that is the minority usually they dont even bother saying anything... So its hard to judge the situation. Of course I dont mind helping those who are gratefull. Its just those other sods who arnt.. I have actually experienced people being rude to me after I have spent like 20 minutes helping them... Thats rare but it happens. They are the worse kind. :roll: Makes me reluctant to bother with the next person even if I know I shouldnt judge them on someone elses actions. This game is kinda childish now. VMeh BlogV >Miscellaneous Goals< http://www.rsbandb.com/sigs/sig108/bazzaminxer.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Avatar Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I have a problem with helping people. I help most anyone who asks me, even if I don't know how to help them. Yesterday someone asked me where crimsons were while I was hunting red chinchompas, this led to them following me around in the jungle for about 15 minutes until I eventually said "uhhh I'm actually not sure where they are". :oops: Previously known as Monkeybeast0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canineteeth Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 :P Monkey, same happened to me, but I took them to the crimsons. I ussually help people, if they are polite. Once I stopped someone while killing yaks because they had been asking for ages to buy a bronze nail. I told her to buy it from the lady, saved her a trip to the G E. Then I recognised her from lightning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow_Clawe Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Its great to help others just for the sake of being kind. If youve ever been stuck on a quest or whatever and needed help, you'd know how grateful others are when you help them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wachtwoord Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I don't mind helping most of the time, pointing lost players to where they need to go and all that, but when they get really clingy, I can't stand them. I helped this person do Troll Stronghold once, but immediately after that she demands I help her with Tourist Trap right after we were done with Troll Stronghold, and had the audacity to ask that I walk her through every single quest leading up to Desert Treasure, as well as DT itself. Helping's good, but a total stranger demanding 7 hours of your time for something that tipit's quest guides could easily substitute, that's overstaying your welcome a little bit don't you think? Yup. That's why, as a rule of thumb, I tend to help higher levels more then lower ones. Higher levels understand that you can't devote your day to them, and are smart and experienced enough to figure out most stuff themselves. But as a result of that, they hardly ever need help. When everything's been said and done, more has been said than done.All skills 80+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benar Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Yesterday I showed a lower level all the way from Falador to the hunting area south of the fishing colony. It doesn't always have to be a big favor like brining somebody across the map, because no matter how you help, you are still helping. Showing compassion is the only way to find it. If you can't learn to be a little selfless at times, and let go of pride, then humility and wisdom will never be yours. Helping others is one of the greatest ways to create a feeling of ones own self-worth, dispel pride, remedy shame, and generate wisdom and insight. The second best way would be letting others help you. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellisforheroes Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Mmm, I like helping newer players, but only those that deserve it. You know, the ones that aren't pushy or lazy, who are just new to the game and need a little helping hand. I think then I get the best reward from it because those sort of players are truly thankful, rather than just using you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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