I would go for the hot one. I mean, if I had to choose, I'd end up in a relationship that wouldn't last at any rate.

Always choose the hot one.

Wanted thoughts on this comic...

 

Wanted thoughts on this comic...

 

 

It's not very accurate-- both people in the first panel are "wrong"

Wanted thoughts on this comic...

 

 

It's not very accurate-- both people in the first panel are "wrong"

 

I want to marry that girl. She's quick witted, obviously attractive enough that the guy needed a confidence boost to talk to her and perceptive.

I feel like stories are a really great way to make your opinion look like the truth.

I don't think that's the point of them. It's just to illustrate the problems with the ideas people have, like how 'negging' is supposed to be effective at attracting partners.

last time I saw a guy negg some chick @ a party, he got slapped followed by a wine splash to the face.

 

From what I've seen: Does. Not. Work.

It's a good example of how something which may work in theory does not work in practice. It doesn't take into account a lot of variables, so its a very flawed assumption to conclude that it'll work.

I'm not referring to the negging, but moreso the determinism concept brought up in the second to last panel

Please remind (repeat for clarity for) me - what's determinism (a concept that I'm unfamiliar with) again? A brief explanation (something that explains what you mean) would suffice (be enough).

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=determinism

Oh, philosophical theory about everything being determined. I don't believe in that, although I don't fully disagree with the last panel of the comic. It's more about the range of choices they make that limits them, as opposed to lack of free-will.

It's mostly that the comic is a very outdated representation of the PUA community from like 2005.

 

Negging, peacocking, etc.-- anything that Mystery advocates basically-- are only used by guys who really don't understand anything.

 

Nowadays that whole community is primarily focused on personal success and self-development which, in turn, leads to success in relationships.

 

The comic also kind of implies that only men like sex, and that if a man only has relationships with women for sex, then he's a bad person and is just "using them." ...which makes me wonder that, if the cartoonist is a male, if he's just insecure or jealous about the concept of a "pickup artist" >_>

It's mostly that the comic is a very outdated representation of the PUA community from like 2005.

 

Negging, peacocking, etc.-- anything that Mystery advocates basically-- are only used by guys who really don't understand anything.

 

Nowadays that whole community is primarily focused on personal success and self-development which, in turn, leads to success in relationships.

 

The comic also kind of implies that only men like sex, and that if a man only has relationships with women for sex, then he's a bad person and is just "using them." ...which makes me wonder that, if the cartoonist is a male, if he's just insecure or jealous about the concept of a "pickup artist" >_>

Or perhaps whenever he tries to meet women they assume he's in it for sex only? or perhaps there's no coincidence at all and he's just drawing to take the piss out of it for amusement.

It's mostly that the comic is a very outdated representation of the PUA community from like 2005.

 

Negging, peacocking, etc.-- anything that Mystery advocates basically-- are only used by guys who really don't understand anything.

 

Nowadays that whole community is primarily focused on personal success and self-development which, in turn, leads to success in relationships.

 

The comic also kind of implies that only men like sex, and that if a man only has relationships with women for sex, then he's a bad person and is just "using them." ...which makes me wonder that, if the cartoonist is a male, if he's just insecure or jealous about the concept of a "pickup artist" >_>

Or perhaps whenever he tries to meet women they assume he's in it for sex only? or perhaps there's no coincidence at all and he's just drawing to take the piss out of it for amusement.

 

It's a moot point, really. You can't blame a guy for wanting to talk to a girl, hoping to get long-term committed sex in the long run. Similarly, you can't really blame a girl for wanting to form a relationship with a guy, hoping for security in the long run.

 

As far as "taking the piss out of it for amusement" goes-- to be honest, I'm not exactly sure what you mean. But whenever I drink and/or go out to the bars/house parties and socialize with strangers, it's purely for my own amusement. I love shooting shit with strangers just to make them laugh and help them escape from their boring, worrisome lives. There's so many people I meet at the bars/parties who are stressed out or preoccupied with such trivial things that never even cross my mind-- it feels great just to tease them and joke around with them. Naturally, by conversing w/ people in such a nature, they want to get to know you better because you're kind of a "rare breed" in their lives. That's where relationships should stem from-- not from gimmicks, "peacocking," "displaying higher value," or "negs"-- but from forming fun and genuine connections with people through humor and similarities. Kind of like that comic alluded to-- there's too many guys that I cross paths with at bars and parties who are only there to get laid, and consequently, feel bad about themselves if they fail to do so. I mean, I'm not really judging them for doing so-- I can understand their motivation-- but whenever I recognize those kinds of people at bars and parties, I still try to treat them equally as if they're in the same boat as me. Like I said-- being friendly to everybody you meet and dropping all judgment/stereotypes can do wonders for your life and the lives of others :)

 

As I've said in the past-- even if you take what I've mentioned here to heart-- you shouldn't be doing so to get laid or boost your ego among others. You should be doing it for your own amusement and for the amusement of others. Forming friendships and getting laid is just a bonus. There's so much negativity in the world today-- people need good news, positivity, and humor in their lives. So why not be the person who can provide that? :)

 

 

...Just my two cents :P

It's mostly that the comic is a very outdated representation of the PUA community from like 2005.

 

Negging, peacocking, etc.-- anything that Mystery advocates basically-- are only used by guys who really don't understand anything.

 

Nowadays that whole community is primarily focused on personal success and self-development which, in turn, leads to success in relationships.

 

The comic also kind of implies that only men like sex, and that if a man only has relationships with women for sex, then he's a bad person and is just "using them." ...which makes me wonder that, if the cartoonist is a male, if he's just insecure or jealous about the concept of a "pickup artist" >_>

Or perhaps whenever he tries to meet women they assume he's in it for sex only? or perhaps there's no coincidence at all and he's just drawing to take the piss out of it for amusement.

 

It's a moot point, really. You can't blame a guy for wanting to talk to a girl, hoping to get long-term committed sex in the long run. Similarly, you can't really blame a girl for wanting to form a relationship with a guy, hoping for security in the long run.

 

As far as "taking the piss out of it for amusement" goes-- to be honest, I'm not exactly sure what you mean. But whenever I drink and/or go out to the bars/house parties and socialize with strangers, it's purely for my own amusement. I love shooting shit with strangers just to make them laugh and help them escape from their boring, worrisome lives. There's so many people I meet at the bars/parties who are stressed out or preoccupied with such trivial things that never even cross my mind-- it feels great just to tease them and joke around with them. Naturally, by conversing w/ people in such a nature, they want to get to know you better because you're kind of a "rare breed" in their lives. That's where relationships should stem from-- not from gimmicks, "peacocking," "displaying higher value," or "negs"-- but from forming fun and genuine connections with people through humor and similarities. Kind of like that comic alluded to-- there's too many guys that I cross paths with at bars and parties who are only there to get laid, and consequently, feel bad about themselves if they fail to do so. I mean, I'm not really judging them for doing so-- I can understand their motivation-- but whenever I recognize those kinds of people at bars and parties, I still try to treat them equally as if they're in the same boat as me. Like I said-- being friendly to everybody you meet and dropping all judgment/stereotypes can do wonders for your life and the lives of others :)

 

As I've said in the past-- even if you take what I've mentioned here to heart-- you shouldn't be doing so to get laid or boost your ego among others. You should be doing it for your own amusement and for the amusement of others. Forming friendships and getting laid is just a bonus. There's so much negativity in the world today-- people need good news, positivity, and humor in their lives. So why not be the person who can provide that? :)

 

 

...Just my two cents :P

 

I'm curious what your relationship history looks like, Mug. if you don't mind the question

I'm not referring to the negging, but moreso the determinism concept brought up in the second to last panel

Go on?

 

[Edit] I think it's a little dumb to be overly conscious and methodical about seduction, but I've used negging "automatically" and it worked for me...

It's mostly that the comic is a very outdated representation of the PUA community from like 2005.

 

Negging, peacocking, etc.-- anything that Mystery advocates basically-- are only used by guys who really don't understand anything.

 

Nowadays that whole community is primarily focused on personal success and self-development which, in turn, leads to success in relationships.

 

The comic also kind of implies that only men like sex, and that if a man only has relationships with women for sex, then he's a bad person and is just "using them." ...which makes me wonder that, if the cartoonist is a male, if he's just insecure or jealous about the concept of a "pickup artist" >_>

Or perhaps whenever he tries to meet women they assume he's in it for sex only? or perhaps there's no coincidence at all and he's just drawing to take the piss out of it for amusement.

 

It's a moot point, really. You can't blame a guy for wanting to talk to a girl, hoping to get long-term committed sex in the long run. Similarly, you can't really blame a girl for wanting to form a relationship with a guy, hoping for security in the long run.

 

As far as "taking the piss out of it for amusement" goes-- to be honest, I'm not exactly sure what you mean. But whenever I drink and/or go out to the bars/house parties and socialize with strangers, it's purely for my own amusement. I love shooting shit with strangers just to make them laugh and help them escape from their boring, worrisome lives. There's so many people I meet at the bars/parties who are stressed out or preoccupied with such trivial things that never even cross my mind-- it feels great just to tease them and joke around with them. Naturally, by conversing w/ people in such a nature, they want to get to know you better because you're kind of a "rare breed" in their lives. That's where relationships should stem from-- not from gimmicks, "peacocking," "displaying higher value," or "negs"-- but from forming fun and genuine connections with people through humor and similarities. Kind of like that comic alluded to-- there's too many guys that I cross paths with at bars and parties who are only there to get laid, and consequently, feel bad about themselves if they fail to do so. I mean, I'm not really judging them for doing so-- I can understand their motivation-- but whenever I recognize those kinds of people at bars and parties, I still try to treat them equally as if they're in the same boat as me. Like I said-- being friendly to everybody you meet and dropping all judgment/stereotypes can do wonders for your life and the lives of others :)

 

As I've said in the past-- even if you take what I've mentioned here to heart-- you shouldn't be doing so to get laid or boost your ego among others. You should be doing it for your own amusement and for the amusement of others. Forming friendships and getting laid is just a bonus. There's so much negativity in the world today-- people need good news, positivity, and humor in their lives. So why not be the person who can provide that? :)

 

 

...Just my two cents :P

 

I'm curious what your relationship history looks like, Mug. if you don't mind the question

 

I haven't been in a relationship since 2009 and I hope to keep it that way :P

I'm not referring to the negging, but moreso the determinism concept brought up in the second to last panel

Go on?

 

[Edit] I think it's a little dumb to be overly conscious and methodical about seduction, but I've used negging "automatically" and it worked for me...

 

How certain are you that it was the negging that did the trick? Oh, and what do you mean when you refer to the term 'negging'? I think because of its ambiguous nature, it could be causing confusion/disagreement here.

I'm not referring to the negging, but moreso the determinism concept brought up in the second to last panel

Go on?

 

[Edit] I think it's a little dumb to be overly conscious and methodical about seduction, but I've used negging "automatically" and it worked for me...

 

How certain are you that it was the negging that did the trick? Oh, and what do you mean when you refer to the term 'negging'? I think because of its ambiguous nature, it could be causing confusion/disagreement here.

 

Who cares :P

I'm not referring to the negging, but moreso the determinism concept brought up in the second to last panel

Go on?

 

[Edit] I think it's a little dumb to be overly conscious and methodical about seduction, but I've used negging "automatically" and it worked for me...

 

How certain are you that it was the negging that did the trick? Oh, and what do you mean when you refer to the term 'negging'? I think because of its ambiguous nature, it could be causing confusion/disagreement here.

It's essentially all I did. But maybe you're right and I'm just particularly good-looking or something; I don't know, but at any rate I didn't [bleep] things up with what I said.

I didn't go up to a random girl and ask her if she felt she was too fat as illustrated in the comic; it was more of a ball-busting thing, but like Muggi said that isn't the question. What's really relevant is how you become the kind of person that spontaneously says such attractive things and whether that's really the key to feeling good.

I'd just like to point out I've only done this three times (I think), so I don't end up sounding too full of myself. All I'm saying is it works sometimes, in response to Tim.

Not sure if there's much of a difference, if any, but I think that just teasing people/busting their balls over obvious, trivial things is always a great way to build rapport with anyone. Over-exaggerating the dumb things people (including yourself) do is funny too :D

It's mostly that the comic is a very outdated representation of the PUA community from like 2005.

 

Negging, peacocking, etc.-- anything that Mystery advocates basically-- are only used by guys who really don't understand anything.

 

Nowadays that whole community is primarily focused on personal success and self-development which, in turn, leads to success in relationships.

 

The comic also kind of implies that only men like sex, and that if a man only has relationships with women for sex, then he's a bad person and is just "using them." ...which makes me wonder that, if the cartoonist is a male, if he's just insecure or jealous about the concept of a "pickup artist" >_>

Or perhaps whenever he tries to meet women they assume he's in it for sex only? or perhaps there's no coincidence at all and he's just drawing to take the piss out of it for amusement.

 

It's a moot point, really. You can't blame a guy for wanting to talk to a girl, hoping to get long-term committed sex in the long run. Similarly, you can't really blame a girl for wanting to form a relationship with a guy, hoping for security in the long run.

 

As far as "taking the piss out of it for amusement" goes-- to be honest, I'm not exactly sure what you mean. But whenever I drink and/or go out to the bars/house parties and socialize with strangers, it's purely for my own amusement. I love shooting shit with strangers just to make them laugh and help them escape from their boring, worrisome lives. There's so many people I meet at the bars/parties who are stressed out or preoccupied with such trivial things that never even cross my mind-- it feels great just to tease them and joke around with them. Naturally, by conversing w/ people in such a nature, they want to get to know you better because you're kind of a "rare breed" in their lives. That's where relationships should stem from-- not from gimmicks, "peacocking," "displaying higher value," or "negs"-- but from forming fun and genuine connections with people through humor and similarities. Kind of like that comic alluded to-- there's too many guys that I cross paths with at bars and parties who are only there to get laid, and consequently, feel bad about themselves if they fail to do so. I mean, I'm not really judging them for doing so-- I can understand their motivation-- but whenever I recognize those kinds of people at bars and parties, I still try to treat them equally as if they're in the same boat as me. Like I said-- being friendly to everybody you meet and dropping all judgment/stereotypes can do wonders for your life and the lives of others :)

 

As I've said in the past-- even if you take what I've mentioned here to heart-- you shouldn't be doing so to get laid or boost your ego among others. You should be doing it for your own amusement and for the amusement of others. Forming friendships and getting laid is just a bonus. There's so much negativity in the world today-- people need good news, positivity, and humor in their lives. So why not be the person who can provide that? :)

 

 

...Just my two cents :P

 

I'm curious what your relationship history looks like, Mug. if you don't mind the question

 

I haven't been in a relationship since 2009 and I hope to keep it that way :P

 

How'd that work out?

How'd that work out?

 

Didn't work out for the same reason many relationships fail: I became needy :P