Skill capes being F2P. Give it a read =D

[coza_17]

100% F2p isn't an achievment.

 

 

 

ur a noob.

 

 

 

99 in p2p isnt an achivement either then? 99 in all stats isnt either?

 

Wow, your reading fails. He said being 100% F2P isn't an achievement. He didn't say that getting a 99 whilst being 100% F2P isn't an achievement. Apparently he doesn't like the people who are extra proud of their achievement because they did it in a non-members world. Some people may find it pointless to train a 99 stat in F2P, because you could save days doing it on a member world.

[Qeauxraline]

Anyone who has played a F2P and P2P character knows that it is much harder to level with a F2P character. Training grounds are more crowded, and there are less of them. The P2P area is about 4 times bigger than the F2P area and contains the most useful places for training. That means it is harder to level in F2P, and thus, in my opinion, more of an achievement because it takes more work and more time.

 

 

 

Also, being 100% F2P is an achievement. It takes much more work. Doing something the hard way, rather than paying and doing it the easy way, is an achievement to most people. An analogy can be drawn with skilling. If you want 99 fletching and so you go an cut 80,000 yews, make 80,000 bowstrings and then string them all, that is more of an accomplishment than buying all the raw materials and then making them. I would argue that the amount of time and effort put into a task, despite how you limit yourself, determines the magnitude of the achievement. Therefore being 100% F2P and having 99s is more of an achievement than doing so on P2P.

 

 

 

However, I do think that skill capes should remain members only. They're an incentive to pay and Jagex is a business. Besides, anyone with a 99 in F2P is probably never going to become a member anyways, so there is no reason to give it to them in Jagex's eyes.

[BBC3]

this is what happens when jagex gives f2p too much updates they start to want p2p stuff, pay $6 soz

[CNUPRV]

God how much do you guys want without having to pay for members like the rest of us.

[Den]

I dont have anything against f2p, but I dont think they deserve skill capes.

 

A trimmed skill cape is the second best combat cape in the game. (If im not mistaken)

 

 

 

Giving f2p the second best cape is like giving them rune boots, or dragon platelegs.

 

 

 

Not everyone is able to defeat jad either. (Even though the people who do say its easy.)

 

 

 

 

 

I also saw a comment about members not finding any use for the lumbridge achievement diary.

 

Thats just a plain out lie.

 

 

 

The explorer ring gives 150% run energy every day.

 

It provides 30 alchs which works great for alching steel items while slaying.

 

The cabbage teleport gives easy access to Draynor/Post sarim and an Allotment Patch.

 

 

 

Its as usefull as any other achievement diary reward in my eyes.

[hellbellz]

For me, everytime I say I have 94 strength (being level 84 & 100% f2p), people go like "yea riight!!". I cant imagine at 99 strength. Plus, I want to show off :)

 

 

No one cares if you're "100% F2P". Honostly, just shows you can't afford $5 a month or you just think you're cool because you don't train on more efficiant monsters. Either way, it's lame.

[harbringerjm]

For me, everytime I say I have 94 strength (being level 84 & 100% f2p), people go like "yea riight!!". I cant imagine at 99 strength. Plus, I want to show off :)

 

 

No one cares if you're "100% F2P". Honostly, just shows you can't afford $5 a month or you just think you're cool because you don't train on more efficiant monsters. Either way, it's lame.

 

 

 

Indeed so.

 

"0|\/|9, 1 |-|45 7|241|\|3|) f15|-|1|\|9 70 99 pu|23 5|-||21|\/|p, 1 5|-|0u||) 937z0|2 73|-| u83|2 (4p3 83(4u53 17 \/\/43 |-|4|2|)3|2 f0|2 |\/|3 74|\| f0|2 73|-| 073|2 p33p5!11!!!1eleven!"

 

 

 

Note: I over-exagerate for emphasis. Try not to be offended, I wasn't saying anyone here is a 1337 noob.

[retro704]

:( i fail to see how f2p "deserves" anything, you do not pay membership nor benifit the game in any way other than fanbase, only members "derserve" extra features, but i agree f2p skillcapes would own :D

[harbringerjm]

Just a point, if skillcapes were to become f2p, that would really screw up pking. As it is, members coming over to a f2p world have to stick with much the same gear as the f2pers, but given how many more members have skillcapes (especially trimmed ones) than f2pers, that could really mess things up.

[No_99_Melee]

Seems like you just want the skillcape and not the 99.

 

 

 

The whole " "I have 99 strength" "No you don't noob" awww see now he won't believe me and I won't get credit :cry: :cry: :cry: "

 

 

 

If you earned the 99 you don't need someone else to tell you how to be proud of it.

 

 

 

No support.

[BabyPunchers]

Also, being 100% F2P is an achievement. It takes much more work.

 

 

 

No it's not. That's like making a 2 story house out of sticks and mud purposely instead of making it out of brick. Saying you're "100% f2p" is saying you're proud of being an idiot.

[db300]

Wow, what's with the constant f2p bashing? All of these discussions end up with people just saying how stupid f2p'ers are. :roll:

 

 

 

Back on topic though, for reasons already mentioned I doubt skill capes will ever be for f2p.

[Lordjake]

Also, being 100% F2P is an achievement. It takes much more work.

 

 

 

No it's not. That's like making a 2 story house out of sticks and mud purposely instead of making it out of brick. Saying you're "100% f2p" is saying you're proud of being an idiot.

 

I'd say making a two-story house out of sticks and mud is quite an achievement.

 

And by thinking people who are proud of being f2p are idiots, you don't exactly separate yourself from that idiot crowd.

 

 

 

 

 

As for skill capes, I've never really been a fan of them. When I trained any of my stats to 99, I just did it for the achievement itself, not so random level 30s can say "wow 99 smith, emote pls"

 

 

 

 

 

and a side note to everyone: Please don't think all f2pers are like Rarex. The top f2pers mainly are quiet and much less needy because we realized long ago that f2p has never really needed updates, and to appreciate the ones we already have :thumbup:

[Giordano]

Seems like you just want the skillcape and not the 99.

 

 

 

The whole " "I have 99 strength" "No you don't noob" awww see now he won't believe me and I won't get credit :cry: :cry: :cry: "

 

 

 

If you earned the 99 you don't need someone else to tell you how to be proud of it.

 

 

 

No support.

 

This is single-handly the best explanation to why F2P shouldn't get capes. =D>

[Amaranth_GTO]

Also, being 100% F2P is an achievement. It takes much more work. Doing something the hard way, rather than paying and doing it the easy way, is an achievement to most people. An analogy can be drawn with skilling. If you want 99 fletching and so you go an cut 80,000 yews, make 80,000 bowstrings and then string them all, that is more of an accomplishment than buying all the raw materials and then making them. I would argue that the amount of time and effort put into a task, despite how you limit yourself, determines the magnitude of the achievement. Therefore being 100% F2P and having 99s is more of an achievement than doing so on P2P.

 

I disagree.

 

Even if you did get 99 fletching the long way, it doesn't make it more of an achievement than anyone else with 99 fletching. Sure, some people bought all the materials. But guess what, that money had to come from somewhere. They decided that they'd rather spend their time earning money and buying the materials, then spending their time chpping yew tree after yew tree and picking flax and spinning it for days on end.

 

At the end of the day, both players still have 99 fletching. Sure, the player who did it the long way may feel more proud about it than the player who bought it, but they still achieved the exact same thing. So no, I wouldn't consider that more of an achievement.

 

 

 

The same can be said about being 100% f2p. If two players get a 99, one player may feel more proud about having a 99 , because they did it in f2p. But no matter what, they both still got the same level. Just because you feel more proud about an achievement, doesn't make it a better achievement.

[lukerogers]

Hmm... Not Sure

[hellbellz]

I'd say making a two-story house out of sticks and mud is quite an achievement.

 

I would say that person is an idiot for using a horrible method of making a house. Why put so much more stress on yourself? I'd praise someone who can make the most efficient house in the best time. In this case, that would be P2P.

[Amaranth_GTO]

I'd say making a two-story house out of sticks and mud is quite an achievement.

 

I would say that person is an idiot for using a horrible method of making a house. Why put so much more stress on yourself? I'd praise someone who can make the most efficient house in the best time. In this case, that would be P2P.

 

Who would you rather have build your house, the guy who brags about building a two story house out of sticks and mud, saying that it's quite a achievement, or the guy who can build a sturdy house in a very short amount of time?

 

Of course, the latter.

[Lordjake]

I'd say making a two-story house out of sticks and mud is quite an achievement.

 

I would say that person is an idiot for using a horrible method of making a house. Why put so much more stress on yourself? I'd praise someone who can make the most efficient house in the best time. In this case, that would be P2P.

 

Not every person cares about the most efficient means of completing a game (or house) :wall:

 

 

 

Some people like to build their houses with their bare hands simply for the challenge of it, which, while being very inefficient, can be very satisfying.

 

Other people prefer to have their houses buil-.... nevermind... I'm not continuing this [cabbage]ty conversation between houses and runescape.

[Amaranth_GTO]

Some people like to build their houses with their bare hands simply for the challenge of it, which, while being very inefficient, can be very satisfying.

 

Other people prefer to have their houses buil-.... nevermind... I'm not continuing this [cabbage] conversation between houses and runescape.

 

Off the subject of houses, you made a good point.

 

You said it can be quite satisfying to do something the challenging way, while some people prefer the more efficient way of doing things. Either way, in the end, you'd get the same result (no, not with the houses, but in game.) So even if one person is more satisfied with their achievement, does that really make it better than the other achievement?

 

If you looked both players up on the high scores, you'd see the same achievement for each player, so even if one person takes more pride in their level because of how they achieved it, doesn't mean their achievement is better than the other persons.

[Albel]

If you need a 99 cape, then you're getting 99s for the wrong reason.

 

Could have not been said better Mc.

 

Anyway on subject...

 

This would be a cool idea, however lets think for a sec... why was the skill capes released in the game?

 

To show off that you got a 99 in that skill, thats easy, but why did jagex make it members only?

 

To get f2pers to become members.

 

Thats why jagex will never make this happen...

 

If f2pers can get skill capes, they will never go to P2p for skill capes, which means cash out of jagex's pocket.

 

At least thats what i think...

[alphakoldes]

If you have to put "give it a read" in the title, then the thread isn't worth reading.

 

 

 

 

To show off that you got a 99 in that skill, thats easy, but why did jagex make it members only?

 

To get f2pers to become members.

 

Thats why jagex will never make this happen..

 

 

 

Bingo. Please, everyone read what this kid said and let it sink in.

 

 

 

There are a MILLION different things in this game that "ftp deserves" but won't get because Jagex needs SOME sort of carrot to hold over the people in this game.

[Flodder450]

Uhm....i like the idea,but just +0 to everything,let the weight be the same

 

and guys,there are also people who arent alloud to become P2P........... -.-

[sohkmj1]

The only time i give a f2per achievement for a 99 (only 1) is when they are forced not to be a member.

 

Why deprive them of the skillcapes? I kinda agree with the thread, it will give f2pers motivation to carry out a 99, but isn't that the same as nolifing members? They ultimately, will not go into members because they have a skillcape on f2p.

 

Now, if you were talking about being able to take of and reequip a skillcape on f2p when you have purchased the cape in members, is a totally other suggestion, one which i totally support.

 

You have at least paid for the skillcape, why not enjoy it even when you don't pay anymore?

[Grasle]

If you have to put "give it a read" in the title, then the thread isn't worth reading.

 

 

 

 

To show off that you got a 99 in that skill, thats easy, but why did jagex make it members only?

 

To get f2pers to become members.

 

Thats why jagex will never make this happen..

 

 

 

Bingo. Please, everyone read what this kid said and let it sink in.

 

 

 

There are a MILLION different things in this game that "ftp deserves" but won't get because Jagex needs SOME sort of carrot to hold over the people in this game.

 

Both of them are exactly right.

 

 

 

[hide=]

Second, you are kind of ignorant. No insult.

 

I'm not going to comment.

 

 

 

Earning a level 99 stat in F2P is 10x harder, at least, than in P2P.

 

It's harder, yes, but that's too much of a hyperbole. I won't get into "why P2P makes the game easy" because it's just a bunch of excuses.

 

 

 

lumb diaries: taste of p2p for f2pers, p2pers dont find a use for it anyways

 

 

 

There. Your wrong. I think.

 

I couldn't disagree with you more. Actually, no, you're wrong. I use the ring all the time, it's part of my everyday-outfit.[/hide]

 

All-in-all, I'm not against F2P getting achievement capes. But, we all know this won't happen, as was stated why earlier.