Potion Hypocrisy - Are they Really for n00bs?

[DracomancerV]

Okay, to start this off, I use pots. I am not ashamed to say it, and I'm not ashamed to do so.

 

Why the devil should I be ashamed of using potions in the duel arena?

 

Because someone that DOESN'T use them calls me a "n00b" or a "potter"? :cry:

 

Because as soon as they're being used on you, they're the most evil thing that JaGex ever developed? That Dharoks isn't at least five times cheaper?!

 

 

 

Really, it disgusts me. Yes, I use potions in the duel arena. OMIGAWD! :shock: No, but really, I don't see what the big deal is.

 

All I do is swing my Dragon Battleaxe around and say "Rargh," drink a potion, put on Piety, and pull out my scimitar.

 

What is so evil about doing that? :twisted: Am I commiting a warcrime? Am I abusing a feeble old woman? Am I drowning puppies?

 

Honestly, it's just a strategy to improve chances of winning, not something that you should call someone a noob for. And if you didn't want to fight someone using potions, then turn off the drink option. #-o The brain hurts, doesn't it?

 

 

 

Now, on to the hypocrisy. I'm sure we've all fought something that was difficult to beat. ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE A QUESTER.

 

I am, as was said, a quester. I love 'em, and I praise Tip.It for the excellent guides that they give. :pray: But I digress.

 

Now, I've fought strong monsters, and maybe you have too. CONTAAAAACT!!! :wall:

 

But yeah. Lets take a look here. We have monsters such as Kamil, Fareed, Dessous, and Damis. Also, their foodlike counterparts. There was the Sea Troll Queen, The Inadequacy, Barrelchest, and other Quest monsters.

 

Was it shameful to use food and potions against them?

 

And then we come to the "Awe" monsters. KQ, KBD, Steel Dragons, Jad, K'ril Tsutsaroth, General Graardor, Commander Ziliyana, Kree'arra, and our most recent and, most likely the cruelest, addition, the fearsome... CORPOREAL BEAST! :o

 

Now who in there right mind says it's nooby to use pots against these things? I mean, maybe the KBD doesn't pose as great a threat as he did in the past, (No offense, KBD, I still avoid you :ohnoes: ) but that doesn't stop people from using Super Sets and antipoisons when fighting him. The same applies to our beetle-like mistress, the KQ. Yeah, now we have Veracs, but that's not stopping us from using potions. And potions are absolutely necessary when fighting GWD bosses, Tz-Tok Jad, and the mighty Corporeal one.

 

 

 

I simply do not see why potions are considered nooby. I bet there'd be a lot less Dragon Chains and Full Helms floating around if people couldn't use potions. I'll bet that we wouldn't see nearly as many Fire Capes. I'd wager that a lot of the items we've come to know and love would be just dreamers objects. So what makes it bad for people to use pots? Because they're using it against you? Consider this: The GWD Bosses with Pots. Jad using pots. MR. CORPOREAL USING POTS! :shock:

 

The fact is, they're simply part of victory strategies. Just because someone uses a super strength potion against you, or goes on a rampage with their Dragon Battleaxe and then calm down with some harralander and spider eggs in a vial, doesn't mean that they are noobs. Why should they be insulted for wanting to win? Yeah, it's not pleasant to lose. It's even less pleasant when you know you wasted a potion in the effort! :? But that doesn't mean that you have the right to call someone a "fr00bkake" for taking a sip of something that probably doesn't taste that good.

 

 

 

I guess what it boils down to is a person's opinion. Some people don't mind using pots, some think that people who use them are weak. I personally think that they are an effective way to secure a victory, but I often find it at the cost of being insulted and finding the victory somewhat less appealing. Maybe that's what the aim is, to make the victory less satisfying. But honestly, if you're going to complain about people using pots, maybe you should just turn off the option to drink.

[Zierro]

I love using potions in Clan Wars. It makes people think I'm stronger than I really am. :D

 

 

 

PS: There are wayyyyyyy too many smilies in that post. :shame: :shame: :shame:

[Seraphyna]

The only pot I use (other than the occasional prayer or super restore pot) is super strength pots. People just get all in a tizzy because using stat boosting pots gets them owned since they don't have the forsight to use them themselves...it's like calling people with high defence "def noobs".

[DracomancerV]

The only pot I use (other than the occasional prayer or super restore pot) is super strength pots. People just get all in a tizzy because using stat boosting pots gets them owned since they don't have the forsight to use them themselves...it's like calling people with high defence "def noobs".

 

 

 

Thank you, I'm glad you agree. You get a cookie for seeing the point I was trying to make *gives cookie*

[Tim]

i use the odd super def' potion to get mine to 104 defence to live longer. but i dont like people who pot then yell at me for praying. your using an atvantage, cant I? but as long as you dont whine about me using prayer i dont realy care, your account, do as you please.

[Omali]

I don't use them personally in the duel arena, but that's just a choice not to use my pots there.

 

 

 

But yes, there are a lot of hypocrites in this game. Best thing to do is just lay back and laugh at their naive idiocy.

[Erichermit]

The main reason people don't use them is because they don't want to pay for potions too. If everybody uses potions, it's just as fair as if nobody uses potions. Since it's cheaper for everyone to not use potions, most people get angry when people break this "unwritten rule".

 

 

 

Personally I see where this logic comes from, but also believe people are free to play as they want.

[funnisam]

potions are not a way to 'secure' a victory, but that said, i don't really care if someone i am facing uses pots. when i beat them, it makes me feel better, as they had to pot and still lost, whilst i was unpotted.

 

 

 

simply put: who gives a flying **** whether someone uses a potion or not. pots are in the game, so why should someone not use them?

[Smapla]

I love using potions in Clan Wars. It makes people think I'm stronger than I really am. :D

 

 

 

PS: There are wayyyyyyy too many smilies in that post. :shame: :shame: :shame:

 

 

 

 

 

his ratio is seventy words per smiley (about 700 words, 10 smileys)

 

 

 

your ratio is six-seven words per smiley (26 words, 4 smileys)

[BloodArgon]

I love using potions in Clan Wars. It makes people think I'm stronger than I really am. :D

 

 

 

PS: There are wayyyyyyy too many smilies in that post. :shame: :shame: :shame:

 

 

 

 

 

his ratio is seventy words per smiley (about 700 words, 10 smileys)

 

 

 

your ratio is six-seven words per smiley (26 words, 4 smileys)

 

 

 

Owned.

 

 

 

And, yes, the main reason people dont want to use potions is because it costs too much money when there is no reward. If your staking 10k Im sure people will be more than willing to pot up, since, they will get paid back if they win.

[Zierro]

I love using potions in Clan Wars. It makes people think I'm stronger than I really am. :D

 

 

 

PS: There are wayyyyyyy too many smilies in that post. :shame: :shame: :shame:

 

 

 

 

 

his ratio is seventy words per smiley (about 700 words, 10 smileys)

 

 

 

your ratio is six-seven words per smiley (26 words, 4 smileys)

 

 

 

Isn't that the point of having three smilies in a row right after I said that? :lol: :lol: :lol: Stop trying to rival me. :shame: :shame: :shame:

 

 

 

simply put: who gives a flying **** whether someone uses a potion or not. pots are in the game, so why should someone not use them?

 

 

 

Words of wisdom right there. Why is there even an Herblore skill in the first place?

[sup3rpur]

You must look at it from their perspective. They go into bh and get owned. They go to level 2 men and get owned. The duel arena is their last resort for feeling good about themselves, as when they ""go 2 skool in der runescape HOODIE and get beat up"" they feel pretty bad...

 

 

 

MEANIE :lol:

[Hoobs]

They're in the game for a reason. They're probably pissed that you have an advantage.. :roll:

[obfuscator]

nothing wrong with using pots, but what people are arguing about is honor. there isnt much of it in runescape anymore.

 

 

 

now i realize most duels are fun, but dont you want a fair fight? if the other person has not potted, they clearly would not want you to, as it makes it unfair.

 

 

 

therefore You are not being honourable by giving yourself an unfair advantage when they have chosen not to.

 

 

 

now im not saying i agree with this, personally i think anything is fair game in duels and i expect as much, but i am just trying to give you some insight as to what your opponent may be thinking :)

[Bauke]

nothing wrong with using pots, but what people are arguing about is honor. there isnt much of it in runescape anymore.

 

 

 

now i realize most duels are fun, but dont you want a fair fight? if the other person has not potted, they clearly would not want you to, as it makes it unfair.

 

 

 

therefore You are not being honourable by giving yourself an unfair advantage when they have chosen not to.

 

 

 

now im not saying i agree with this, personally i think anything is fair game in duels and i expect as much, but i am just trying to give you some insight as to what your opponent may be thinking :)

 

It's not an unfair advantage. The potions are simply part of the duelling. If your foe doesn't pot, then that's his loss. Don't make your own fault look like someone else is being dishonorable.

 

 

 

Personally I think it's rubbish some people actually call people noobs when they just take the opportunity to use all the aspects of the game. Jagex didn't create potions to NOT use them. They have a use in the game. Therefore, if you gain an advantage with them and you can afford them... you SHOULD use them.

 

 

 

Def noob, potion noob, food noob, or whatever are simply phrases made up by people that clearly don't know how to play the game in a proper way.

 

 

 

There's nothing, NOTHING, honorable about making yourself lose.

[FluffyOne]

Imo i leave pots on but have pots in my inventory or food lol they wanna pot then ill eat or pot which ever one i choose :thumbsup:

[Owned_Nex]

Yes.

 

 

 

I honest think they are.

 

 

 

if its duel arena or castle wars...I think it is a testof player's stats, not a of going to the GE and buying pots. Whenever I meet a pot noob I always forfit the duel. No point in fighting a artificial player.

[xSxqPowerx]

I ALWAYS use pots when I fight. What people think about me is irrelevant.

[Yomyth105]

ppl say this because they r getting owns or because they dont have pots. this is another one of those topics where ppl insult each other for doing something that is completely legal ingame. U shouldnt care if u use pots.

[Slayer_Jesse]

the only problem i have potting at deul arena is that i want to face you as you are. if you say "im going to pot up." fine, ill pot then too. just let deulers know, ok? (tho i must admit, its fun to pot and obliterate unsuspecting ppl once in awhile :twisted: )

[Mylez]

No, I don't think they are for "n00bs".

 

 

 

Using potions gives you an advantage, and if your opponent was too dim-witted to think of using them first, he should resign to the fact you out-smarted him. ;)

 

 

 

It's funny really, how this attitude exists in the D.A, but not within Slaying/Monster-hunting :?

[Polnar]

People get annoyed with those who use stat boosting potions in the duel arena (when not staking) for the same reason that they get annoyed when people use food. It isn't the case that they're not using pots because they're inferior at duelling, they don't use pots in friendly duels because unless you're maxing, dming, or have arranged to use them for whatever reason, then it is simply a waste and pointless, when people randomly challenge you to a friendly duel they're generally looking for a fun, equal duel and it's a waste of time to pot or eat during them.

[Bauke]

If you want a friendly duel without having to waste potions, then both sides have to agree with that before the fight. You can't just say that because you want a simple potion-free fight that your opponent can't use potions aswell.

[Polnar]

That's a pathetic technicality and you know it. You sound like a health and safety inspector. The use of potions/food in random friendly duels is poor sport and not in the spirit of fun nor of fairness. However I do think the problem has been exaggerated, when someone uses pots after I challenge them (spontaneously) for a duel they're generally a lower level and so I just beat them anyway, and disregard it, I don't have the time nor the inclination to complain. They shouldn't use pots, end of, though it isn't too big a deal.

[Bauke]

That's a pathetic technicality and you know it. You sound like a health and safety inspector. The use of potions/food in random friendly duels is poor sport and not in the spirit of fun nor of fairness.

 

 

That's your opinion. Some people actually have a different opinion and just feel that they CAN use the items that Jagex provided us with in this game. I mean, if you both agree to not using pots, and your opponent does use them anyway, that's basically lying. Other than that, there is no reason to not be using them. The fact that you think it's not in the spirit of whatever is not relevant at all. I wouldn't know why I should respect an opinion like that in a battle where the aim is to defeat one by all means possible.

 

 

 

If you want a fight without pots, ask someone to agree on that. If you don't, do that, it's your loss.

 

 

 

I won't be holding myself back in duels just because some people are too cheap to use potions in fights. I will not have to lower myself to their standards in play.

 

 

However I do think the problem has been exaggerated, when someone uses pots after I challenge them (spontaneously) for a duel they're generally a lower level and so I just beat them anyway, and disregard it, I don't have the time nor the inclination to complain. They shouldn't use pots, end of, though it isn't too big a deal.

 

Not seeing any valid arguments for not using pots here.