October 14, 200817 yr Yes - but don't make a record of it. People are always blaming parents for their childs bad behaviour. While in a large amount of cases this is true, sometimes it cannot be helped. If the teenager is jailed themselves, they will realise it's something they they won't wanna do again (hopefully) and could cut down on things like crime. I suggested no record because people are still maturing in the teen age and people make mistakes - the teenager may not represent the fully-grown adult. Thanks everybody for the sigs | 3,956 to 99 fishing | King of BsK 18/09/08 - 18/10/08Chelsea Supporter | CD Supporter | AfterShock MemberXbox LIVE Gamertag: Cotton TradersNow what the hell are you waitin' for? After me, there shall be no more, so for one last time, make some noise.
October 14, 200817 yr Depriving a teenager of those years by chucking him in jail is pretty inhumane if you ask me.
October 14, 200817 yr No. The mentality of a teen is far from the same than of an adult's. Teenagers are reckless, indecesive, are still developing and can be easily overcome with emotion. 99 Hits, Attack, Strength, Defence, Mage, Summoning, Slayer, Ranged, 96/99 Prayer
October 14, 200817 yr Depriving a teenager of those years by chucking him in jail is pretty inhumane if you ask me. What if such a teenager murdered someone? Are you still that full of empathy? I know I won't be. Twitter ||| Google+ ||| Facebook ||| LinkedIn ||| My very interesting weblog about science
October 14, 200817 yr Depriving a teenager of those years by chucking him in jail is pretty inhumane if you ask me. What if such a teenager murdered someone? Are you still that full of empathy? I know I won't be. For all we know, that teenager could be at a critical point in his life that drove him to such a drastic act, and locking him away or giving him the shot isn't going to help him through it. He could turn out to be a wonderful person with some help, because the fact is that a teenager has not fully matured, and won't until around age 20. That is not to say the act should not have repercussions, but treating a developing teenager the same way as an adult who can, in fact, take full responsibilty for his actions shouldn't be the standard. The kid has his whole life ahead of him.
October 14, 200817 yr Rehabilitating a developing teen would be far better for them than life in prison. Crazy world where sitting in a small jail cell is what we call "taking responsibility" for your actions.
October 14, 200817 yr I think they should, and I'm all for naming them publicly, too. If some yobbish, delinquent lout is terrorising his/her neighbourhood, then I see no reason why they shouldn't be punished and named to warn future areas of that person's behaviour. As for serious crimes, I think the same rule should apply. They need to be punished. Everyone, by their teenage years, can understand that killing or maiming etc is morally and socially wrong, and they need to suffer the consequence of their actions. If they had a depraved upbringing and don't know the difference, then they need to find out what society's reaction to their actions is. Of course the current view of imprisonment is to rehabilitate, which is a much better course of action.
October 14, 200817 yr Rehabilitating a developing teen would be far better for them than life in prison. Crazy world where sitting in a small jail cell is what we call "taking responsibility" for your actions. Yes, at that point in a persons life rehabilitation seems very practical. Now, when they're 30... eh, not so much. So no. [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series.
October 14, 200817 yr One argument that could be made is that they have to take responsible for thier actions, would you throw a 5 year old in jail for stealing candy? He/she doesn't fully comprehend the law... the same could be said for a teenager. Ok most teenagers could tell you that drinking and driving, murdering someone, and stealing is wrong, but what about the intricate laws burried deep in the system? Most likely not.... I'd say for minor crimes no, but major crimes where the teen purposefully commited the crime yes.
October 14, 200817 yr As Intriguing said, it should depend on the crime. I <3 Gears of War 2. Add me on Xbox Live and mention you are from Tif :D
October 14, 200817 yr Depriving a teenager of those years by chucking him in jail is pretty inhumane if you ask me. What if such a teenager murdered someone? Are you still that full of empathy? I know I won't be. For all we know, that teenager could be at a critical point in his life that drove him to such a drastic act, and locking him away or giving him the shot isn't going to help him through it. He could turn out to be a wonderful person with some help, because the fact is that a teenager has not fully matured, and won't until around age 20. That is not to say the act should not have repercussions, but treating a developing teenager the same way as an adult who can, in fact, take full responsibilty for his actions shouldn't be the standard. The kid has his whole life ahead of him. Would you feel the same way if a 30-year-old raped someone? We should bring black flogging, but, whatever. Depends on the crime, but heinous felonies like murder and rape and the like, certainly. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream
October 14, 200817 yr Would you feel the same way if a 30-year-old raped someone? Um . . . No? Is this even a serious question?
October 14, 200817 yr Would you feel the same way if a 30-year-old raped someone? Um . . . No? Is this even a serious question? A 15-year-old rapes a woman. A 30-year-old rapes a woman. They both are most likely the same amount of maturity, although they're probably seriously [bleep]ed up in the head. Shouldn't they be tried the same way? catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream
October 14, 200817 yr Well, the criminal liability age in the UK is 14, and in fact anyone over 10 can be charged and found guilty of a criminal act if the judge decides the child knew what they were doing at the time. The number of cases that have kids as defendants is actually quite large (if you look through criminal case law any case with a party named only by initial is usually a child, the exception being R.) The punishments are different of course, but no one in their right mind would suggest putting a ten year old in a prison with fully grown men.
October 14, 200817 yr Would you feel the same way if a 30-year-old raped someone? Um . . . No? Is this even a serious question? A 15-year-old rapes a woman. A 30-year-old rapes a woman. They both are most likely the same amount of maturity, although they're probably seriously [bleep] up in the head. Shouldn't they be tried the same way? No. The mind of a fifteen-year-old =/= that of a thirty-year-old. I never said that there should be no punishment, but the punishment should not be the same for a teenager as an adult, because teenagers aren't adults. Rehabilitation will most likely work on a teenager, and it's definitely worth the try. I think he would thank society a few years down the road for showing him some mercy and not taking the rest of his life away from him.
October 14, 200817 yr As Intriguing said, it should depend on the crime. I'd also say it should depend on the person (...So the situation in general). Cenin pân nîd, istan pân nîd, dan nin ú-cenich, nin ú-istach.Ithil luin eria vi menel caran...Tîn dan delu.
October 14, 200817 yr It depends of a crime and background. Age means nothing if committer of crime is human waste. Since early days of mankind theres been scum that would rather stay in dark than in light, ones that should stay away from civilized societys by any means possible.
October 14, 200817 yr It depends of a crime and background. Age means nothing if committer of crime is human waste. Since early days of mankind theres been scum that would rather stay in dark than in light, ones that should stay away from civilized societys by any means possible. Outcasts aren't always criminals. Look around, you're surrounded by the on the internet :P . YOU! ATTEND TET EVENTS! CLICK HERE!
October 14, 200817 yr It depends of a crime and background. Age means nothing if committer of crime is human waste. Since early days of mankind theres been scum that would rather stay in dark than in light, ones that should stay away from civilized societys by any means possible. Outcasts aren't always criminals. Look around, you're surrounded by the on the internet :P . Hehe, sure :P I ment what you see on news everyday, cruel crimes committed by teenagers, they are far away from salvation in some of cases. Therapy can help but when it doesnt there is no other solution than lockup - permanently.
October 14, 200817 yr As Intriguing said, it should depend on the crime. I'd also say it should depend on the person (...So the situation in general). I'm going to have to stop there. We shouldn't punish criminals differently because of their past. The reasons for punishment is not to punish the criminal, but to avoid them to do more harm into others...according to most people. No matter how we look at it, the criminal killed another human being and regardless if he/she's 15 or 45, he/she' should go to jail. Having to many exceptions allows criminals to have less jail time because "They have some mental disorder" or whatnot. We must remember more of the victim rather the criminal, always. "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is."
October 14, 200817 yr Until the constitution states they're adults it's contradicting itself by charging minors as adults. If a person isn't allowed vote or use other rights granted on adulthood then it is unfair to charge them as adults, something they're not. If a 16 year old can't have a beer then he / she shouldn't be allowed the adult sentence for whatever his / her crime is.
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