11 November 2008 - Stealing Creation

[Danqazmlp]

Its really hard to find a match without bug abusers now. Good job im on hand to get some reports in. Its just cheating to abuse this minigame, some of them even tried to convince me it isn't a bug lmao.

[pulli23]

Its really hard to find a match without bug abusers now. Good job im on hand to get some reports in. Its just cheating to abuse this minigame, some of them even tried to convince me it isn't a bug lmao.

 

How is it? It's a design mistake: not a bug at all.. And people who use design mistakes to their advantage are clever not stupid at all! - Just do it yourself till Jagex designs the game a bit different! (ie: trading stuff to someone would let that person loose points as if he took it from the home base).

 

 

 

Other than that: what's the point in points? Really 240k is needed for the whole set, you can only buy 1 morphic tool/game so a standard 20k/game is nice. And without bug abusing earning 80k is easily: so only 240/60 = 4 games are needed for a full set.. An average day gives this easily!

 

 

 

That said: the rewards are lame and waaay to easy to get: they look kewl, but since they're so easy there's no "ooooh" feeling for it anymore already. Everyone just can get it!

[Soma2035]

Its really hard to find a match without bug abusers now. Good job im on hand to get some reports in. Its just cheating to abuse this minigame, some of them even tried to convince me it isn't a bug lmao.

 

How is it? It's a design mistake: not a bug at all.. And people who use design mistakes to their advantage are clever not stupid at all! - Just do it yourself till Jagex designs the game a bit different! (ie: trading stuff to someone would let that person loose points as if he took it from the home base).

 

 

 

Other than that: what's the point in points? Really 240k is needed for the whole set, you can only buy 1 morphic tool/game so a standard 20k/game is nice. And without bug abusing earning 80k is easily: so only 240/60 = 4 games are needed for a full set.. An average day gives this easily!

 

 

 

That said: the rewards are lame and waaay to easy to get: they look kewl, but since they're so easy there's no "ooooh" feeling for it anymore already. Everyone just can get it!

 

 

 

Well,

 

 

 

On one hand, Jagex has stated they're treating it as a bug.

 

 

 

On the other, Jagex doesn't read their own rules. This is nowhere close to being an actual bug...

 

 

 

I found a simpler example to differentiate bug from design flaw. Does anyone else remember the infinite store stock update?

 

 

 

Bug - Jagex makes a typo, and Raw Sharks are 48 GP each.

 

Design Flaw - Jagex puts Raw Sharks at 480 GP each without realizing it would completely destroy the market.

 

 

 

The first is a bug. They intended to tell the game "480" and accidentally listed it at 48.

 

The second is NOT a bug. They didn't intend for the market to collapse, but they DID intentionally tell the computer to list it at that price. Since the software was fine, it's not a bug.

 

 

 

This case definitely falls into the latter category. Negative points, withdrawing items at a cost, depositing items at a cost, and being able to give items for free are all intentionally included features. While they didn't anticipate it would be abused this way, that doesn't make it a bug.

 

 

 

In either case, it's all moot, since Jagex can ban you for anything. Hell, they can fairly ban you for saying "hi" since their T&C requires you to acknowledge that they're reserving that right. So it wouldn't be a good idea to continue doing it anyhow.

 

 

 

Also, I wonder just how many points these people have... I've gotten millions of points without using it. I wonder if someone's found the cap on points already. :D

[Leoo]

^ How did you get 1m points 'the right way'?

 

 

 

So using this 'friends = points' system, could you actually get banned/blackmarked?

[Soma2035]

^ How did you get 1m points 'the right way'?

 

 

 

So using this 'friends = points' system, could you actually get banned/blackmarked?

 

 

 

Uhh, I just play normally.

 

 

 

My boring strategy is just to collect stuff... I can net easily up to 100k points per game that way.

 

 

 

My more fun strategy which I've been doing more and more can net anywhere from 40k to 150k per game. Sometimes more.

 

 

 

I had it up to over 600k on the first day just fighting too...

 

 

 

And it sounds like you could, at least, that's what the Jagex Mod is threatening. It's kind of silly though, how are you going to check who's been using it? You can't go by points saved. Some people who used it never got over 500k points an attempt and stopped after 1.5M (One of my friends told me he could only manage that much...). Some people earned several million points (Like me) legit already. Since high scores aren't saved, and most of the time people aren't reporting this, it's going to be hard to distinguish who was using it and who was not.

[Myweponsg00d]

Needle works...you just have to use normal leather or hard leather.

[Salad]

This minigame owns, skillers and fighters will both love this game. I find the fighting par cooler and with a team it just owns.

[Ravenkana]

Needle works...you just have to use normal leather or hard leather.

That's horrible... The question is, was this on purpose or a bug?

[SummonFreak]

Can anyone post images of the new clay summoning familiars?

[darkjab]

I stopped playing this game after I realised none of the armours are stackable in bank, even with the same amount of charges!

 

 

 

I cannot stand having to re-sort my bank every time I want to use them :lol:

[odesa]

Oh man, I was having fun with this minigame last night. I was just pickpocketing and playing aggressive against the enemy teams resource gatherers. Pickpocketing is extremely fun. I stole many mages runes and gave them to our teams mages. Whenever I'd get in trouble I'd just run back to some of our combat people and they would protect me. I had a level 120 calling me a noob because I kept hiding in fog, popping out, pping him and then disappearing into the fog before he could attack. Also, if you get into the fog before a range attack makes contact with you, it doesn't hurt! One game everyone was getting so mad, and the other team actually was spreading a rumor that I had 99 thieving because none of them could steal from me. :)

[Peronix]

Oh man, I was having fun with this minigame last night. I was just pickpocketing and playing aggressive against the enemy teams resource gatherers. Pickpocketing is extremely fun. I stole many mages runes and gave them to our teams mages. Whenever I'd get in trouble I'd just run back to some of our combat people and they would protect me. I had a level 120 calling me a noob because I kept hiding in fog, popping out, pping him and then disappearing into the fog before he could attack. Also, if you get into the fog before a range attack makes contact with you, it doesn't hurt! One game everyone was getting so mad, and the other team actually was spreading a rumor that I had 99 thieving because none of them could steal from me. :)

 

 

 

Oh yeah, pickpocketing is mad fun. people call me "sad" because I'm a level 133 and I run and hide, but tell that to the 110k points I got from jacking ~20k runes from mages one game :lol:

[123neopet]

Now this game would be almost perfect if doing stuff (aside from combat) gave 5 exp/class

 

so mining level 4 clay would be 20 exp/clay

 

level 3 arrows would give 15 exp/set, etc.

 

 

 

Surely that wouldn't be gamebreaking? It would give more incentive to keep playing after getting a full set of everything...

[Foster123111]

Im not sure but i think that glitch has been fixed, or thats what i've heard. I would not risk to try it, although it could be some easy replacement for rune armour for p2p pking :ohnoes:

[Zaaps1]

I don't get how you guys get so many points, I'm barely crawling over 20k... :wall:

[boatracer22]

I don't get how you guys get so many points, I'm barely crawling over 20k... :wall:

 

 

 

You do lvl 3 or 4 resorses and make arrow and deposit them just before the game ends.

 

 

 

gl

[Soma2035]

I don't get how you guys get so many points, I'm barely crawling over 20k... :wall:

 

 

 

I just scored 178k in a single game, without any dubious methods.

 

 

 

Probably the easiest way to score high is:

 

 

 

Get 80 Mining, Woodcutting, Hunter, and Fishing. Preferably at least 2 of them.

 

 

 

Get 80 Runecrafting, or 80 Fletching and 60 Runecrafting.

 

 

 

Get 80 Summoning.

 

 

 

Once you start the game, talk to the mystic and ask him to 'show clay'. That'll reveal what spots are available. Find a level 5 you can harvest.

 

 

 

Get a class1 Clay. Turn it into a tool to match any class 3 gathering spots. Get a class 3 tool matching the level 5. Get a level 5 clay, and then upgrade your tool.

 

 

 

Get a full load of clay. Make a Pouch + 2 sets of scrolls. Make the rest into cataclysmic runes / arrows, give it to the beast, and have it deposit. Then go harvest a full inven (including filling up the familiar). Turn into runes / arrows, give to beast, have it deposit. Rinse and repeat for the rest of the game. If you run out of level 5 resource, go to a level 4 resource of the same type, and make Cataclysmic runes.

 

 

 

Each clay = 75 for harvesting, 75 for crafting, 4 per rune * 75 runes = 300 for depositing, adds to 450 points per clay. You should be able to get past 50k very easily with this.

[Zaaps1]

That's pretty much what I've been doing, until the pkers come by. What do you usually do when faced with combat threat? I make protective armor and barriers for myself when I'm doing that.

[boatracer22]

That's pretty much what I've been doing, until the pkers come by. What do you usually do when faced with combat threat? I make protective armor and barriers for myself when I'm doing that.

 

 

 

"Run Forest Run"

 

:D

 

 

 

Actually run run to the base and depostie all you arrows.

 

I sometimes keep 4 barriars and food and range armor so ancients don't own me get a summon and summon it right away and like 12 scrolls. if you get attacked run to the nearest place to make barriers take advantage of the rifts and walls and rocks to stall you opponet. they will eventually give up put your arrows that have been made in familer and send to deposite.

 

 

 

That what I do.

[Roberthree]

I deposit my arrows every time I make stuff. If i get attacked I just have to click the deposit scroll and I'm good.

[Soma2035]

That's pretty much what I've been doing, until the pkers come by. What do you usually do when faced with combat threat? I make protective armor and barriers for myself when I'm doing that.

 

 

 

I kill them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: Oh yea. I also take and sell their runes, arrows, and armor.

[nyyankees588]

So does anyone actually have the xp boost for morphic tools in skills like crafting/smithing because I now have like 15 or so of them.

[3rkid]

Someone likes Stealing Creation. This was World 6.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry about what I said, I wanted to gather attention. :

[sagelund]

One thing I like about this suckish game is that the armor has the same stats as rune armor, so i can use this anywhere because i wouldn't change it, and i wouldn't have to worry about losing something of value because....... IT SUCKS!

[Mercifull]

If its as good as rune armour perhaps it could be used for cheap armnour on pvp worlds. Some people seem to easily get 100k points + a game so in only an hour or two you could have several sets of armour to go pking with rather than spending a couple of hundred k on rune armour