Could a tiny F2P Update Actually HELP P2P?

[IMSecure]

Alrite, I was just talking with my friend (he's F2P) about how F2P has Armour for 40 Defense, yet no Ranged Weapon (Yew Bow) for 40 Ranged (I'm P2P BTW).

 

 

 

I was just thinking, if Jagex made Yew Bows and MAYBE Rune Arrows (I think most F2Pers would prefer the bow over the arrows but if you add one, you might aswell add the other), wouldn't it actually HELP Members?

 

 

 

Yew Bows are hard to sell in the GE. The only people who buy for people who alch for 99 Mage. Rune Arrows have dropped in price since the release of bolts. Now, imagine F2P had these 2 items...

 

 

 

1) The prices of both would rise dramatically

 

2) Fletching becomes less of a "noob skill" in some peoples' eyes because its now useful as F2Pers and P2Pers can buy Yew Bows

 

3) Maybe making rune arrows could become profitable?

 

4) F2P range will be equal to melee (although mage is pitiful in my opinion).

 

 

 

Now, i know loads of people are gonna say "f2p doesnt deserve anything". I know this. But honestly, does it hurt to be nice? Also, i'm sure some idiot is gonna say "omg im gonna become f2p now cuz they get so much!!". Shut up, please. NO ONE uses Yew Bows for range unless you're less than 50. HARDLY ANYONE uses rune arrows to pk unless you dont wanna use knives/bolts.

 

 

 

I was just thinking if this should be changed. I know it wont make a dramatic change, but it could actually benefit members aswell.

 

 

 

Before you flame me for begging for stuff, I'm a member, and have been a member for almost 30+ straight months.

[Laxaria]

Its an interesting concept, but higher demand for yew bows will rise the demand of yew logs, so in the end F2P benefit just as much as P2P.

 

 

 

Im a F2Per. :)

[Beaumonde]

They are relatively useless so it wouldn't hurt, there is however a long list of useless member items that they should really give F2p, especially since it's been so long since they gave range/mage something nice for F2p (Combat/Druidic robes and dragon coifs don't count since they're degradable).

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

Giving freeplay most anything that Members seldom use, or use for only one particular purpose, would definitely be a boost to the economy of P2P. Now I'm not thoroughly convinced that freeplay needs rune arrows, but the better bow would be a nice thing.

[Central_Keeper]

Something like that wouldn't hurt, it will at least help the member to sell a portion of their yew bows, or those rune arrows, which makes range and pking more fun I suppose.

 

 

 

But when something like this is mentioned, there are often people ready to pounce on the topic such as this.

 

 

 

I still think current F2P set up is fine the way it is, if they can make range and mage more balance in F2P pking system, it might worth change.

[boatracer22]

The problem with this is that this would cuase the rise in the bows making alchign them pricy.

 

 

 

This goes back to a thread that we should let F2P have rune boots and lower F2p. Which I think this should be done becuse hardly any members use lower than dragon unless they can't.

[3hitm4g3u]

Maybe yew bows but no rune arrows.

[ddaanniiellh]

The problem with this is that this would cuase the rise in the bows making alchign them pricy.

 

 

 

This goes back to a thread that we should let F2P have rune boots and lower F2p. Which I think this should be done becuse hardly any members use lower than dragon unless they can't.

 

I can't see it affecting longbow prices as much as much as shortbow prices, simply because shortbows are greatly preferred to for training and pking and longbows are simply for alching.

 

~Dan

[Ravenkana]

In addition to this, why not give F2P one decent piece of mage armor: Mystics. Now, they cannot purchase it themselves, but they can buy it from Members. Ergo, some clever merchants could buy the robes in bulk and sell them for a modest profit.

[maisie54]

They want one bow, not hundreds of thousands..

 

 

 

You need what, 100k yew bows for 99 fletch?

 

 

 

I expect well over 5 million bows would be made a month, there aren't even that many active rs players.

[3hitm4g3u]

In addition to this, why not give F2P one decent piece of mage armor: Mystics. Now, they cannot purchase it themselves, but they can buy it from Members. Ergo, some clever merchants could buy the robes in bulk and sell them for a modest profit.

 

 

 

The FOG robes are satisfactory mage armour.

[Ravenkana]

In addition to this, why not give F2P one decent piece of mage armor: Mystics. Now, they cannot purchase it themselves, but they can buy it from Members. Ergo, some clever merchants could buy the robes in bulk and sell them for a modest profit.

 

 

 

The FOG robes are satisfactory mage armour.

Yes... but they degrade. This is annoying. Plus, some people loathe FOG. So that's just a wee bit unfair to them that the only pair of good mage robes come from a minigame.

[3hitm4g3u]

In addition to this, why not give F2P one decent piece of mage armor: Mystics. Now, they cannot purchase it themselves, but they can buy it from Members. Ergo, some clever merchants could buy the robes in bulk and sell them for a modest profit.

 

 

 

The FOG robes are satisfactory mage armour.

Yes... but they degrade. This is annoying. Plus, some people loathe FOG. So that's just a wee bit unfair to them that the only pair of good mage robes come from a minigame.

 

 

 

Well, FOG robes charged have the best mage bonus in f2p. That seems worth playing a game you loathe for. But if not the uncharged version has the second best mage bonus, so still worth purchasing from GE.

 

 

 

Runecrafting robes give the third best mage bonus in f2p, and best bonus for pures, needing 50 rc.

[B_Ryan20]

i could see this being implemented, because even though they could alch the yew longs for mage exp mage in f2p stops around lv 60 or so anyways, but i could see this making rangers rediculas

[Dragonlordjl]

What F2P really needs is the teleblock spell. :geek:

 

 

 

It's impossible to get a kill outside the wilderness in F2p because rune weapons suck and everybody teleports.

[Slayer_Jesse]

What F2P really needs is the teleblock spell. :geek:

 

 

 

It's impossible to get a kill outside the wilderness in F2p because rune weapons suck and everybody teleports.

 

 

 

i dont support full tb for f2p, but a "telestun" (lasting 30 secs to a min) would really help. and i agree that f2p could really use yew bows. just no n rune arrows tho. f2p should also have the new stealing creation armor, but that's a diff story lol.

[magmaguard3]

There should be some items given to f2p, but not rune arrows. Maybe the yew bows.

[Moonshadow]

In addition to this, why not give F2P one decent piece of mage armor: Mystics. Now, they cannot purchase it themselves, but they can buy it from Members. Ergo, some clever merchants could buy the robes in bulk and sell them for a modest profit.

 

 

 

The FOG robes are satisfactory mage armour.

Yes... but they degrade. This is annoying. Plus, some people loathe FOG. So that's just a wee bit unfair to them that the only pair of good mage robes come from a minigame.

 

I would much rather have a better spell than better armour.

 

 

 

Maybe the wave class and snare (maybe even entangle). It would magic somewhat competitive in f2p.

[Master_Smither]

Yes F2p needs alot of things from members because most members don't use most of the low leveled junk we can use anyway. If they gave F2p yew longs/shorts I imagine shorts would go up some and maybe even yew longs because F2p so alch too. But rune arrows are still not too good so the bows would be better. Mystic is a good idea but it's wildy used by members still so I doubt it. Also with mage spells I think F2p deserves TB since getting 85 mage in F2p is pretty good. This is a good thread like the other F2p thread on this forum but it's going to be flamed by the pathetic people who think since F2p doesn't play they deserve to be treated like trash and just left to the side. Without F2p gf yew log prices you members fletchers. F2p does deserve some things and yes they can pay for more but maybe they don't want to or can't afford it. Also I hope you guys that flame F2p getting updates say WANTED: Boredum because I'd like to see a foot in all your anal passages courtesy of GGunitfan10.

[InkofDeath]

F2P needs to pick the slack up that the members leave behind.

 

 

 

However you can't put an update in because of the ever changing economy. Sure members don't use them now, but what if in 3 months an update is released and the items are in high demand then? Or the update puts them as useless items?

 

 

 

The basis for this is something (economy) that is always changing (supply & demand) based around far too many variables.

[Sam]

A bow would be cool. But who do you know that makes rune arrows? A large proportion of them come from monster drops.

[tintin113]

I remember a few years ago they introduced mith and addy arrows as well as maple bows to F2P, maybe with the same intention. However without knowing how many F2Pers use those bows I wouldn't be able to say how it would affect the yew longbows market, which in it's boom stage before GE was creating probably more than a million Yew Longbows every day. (It's sounds alot but that's just 1000 fletchers making 1000 bows, and there were always at least 2 fletchers in every bank you visited, and far more in Yanille and Seers' banks.)

[Gigajie]

it couldnt really help cuz "fletchers" only make yew longs, and those are really bad for ranging...

[jimmyjames227]

I agree but I have always though that F2P range was slightly overpowered in PVP worlds.

 

It should help members as members will do anything to make a quick £.

[IMSecure]

I fail to see how F2P Ranged is unpowered unless you fight someone with 99 Ranged and 90+ Defense when you happen to be a pure...

 

 

 

Maybe if Yew Shortbow Prices improve, Alchers could alch them instead of longs?