Stuff you could NEVER get into

[demby123]

PC gaming

 

modern snap/crunk/pop-rap music

[Guest Rob]

Dubstep.

[RpgGamer]

The girl that sits next to me in my religion course's pants.

 

womp womp.

[Ouchy]

PC gaming

 

I was once like you. Then I got some PC games and I prefer it over my XBOX at times.

[Bows]

Weed and/or drugs in general.

[Danqazmlp]

What would you guys classify as screamo? I don't want to seem like a pretentious ass, but harsh vocals =/= screamo, and what you're thinking is screamo is probably not screamo at all.

 

Where the lead is screaming. It's quite self explanatory.

 

And on that note, over categorised music. It annoys me when people get annoyed that their favourite music is classed in a broader genre and not some super niche which nobody has ever heard of but is totally what it is.

[Jonanananas]

What would you guys classify as screamo? I don't want to seem like a pretentious ass, but harsh vocals =/= screamo, and what you're thinking is screamo is probably not screamo at all.

 

Where the lead is screaming. It's quite self explanatory.

 

And on that note, over categorised music. It annoys me when people get annoyed that their favourite music is classed in a broader genre and not some super niche which nobody has ever heard of but is totally what it is.

 

Well...that's by far not necessarily screamo. Screamo = Screaming+emo. Which I don't like as I don't like emo. There are good bands with screaming leads though...

 

But I definitely agree with the over categorization. The discussions of "metalcore != metal" alone...I mean, I understand it, and I don't like metalcore either....but aren't there seriously more important topics? And metalcore is still a pretty broad genre...

[Maleficus1055]

What would you guys classify as screamo? I don't want to seem like a pretentious ass, but harsh vocals =/= screamo, and what you're thinking is screamo is probably not screamo at all.

 

Where the lead is screaming. It's quite self explanatory.

 

And on that note, over categorised music. It annoys me when people get annoyed that their favourite music is classed in a broader genre and not some super niche which nobody has ever heard of but is totally what it is.

 

The main genre people do this for is probably screamo, but I understand why. Most screamo fans don't like their music associated with a lot of the metalcore and metal scene. When someone who listens to screamo says it to someone else, they don't want the person to try and talk to them about Bring Me the Horizon or something that isn't actually screamo.

 

I mean, it makes sense, it helps to get a better idea of what you're talking about. It's like calling all electronic music "techno". All the genres of electronic music are different and categorizing them into smaller genres helps you find exactly what you want.

[champion]

What would you guys classify as screamo? I don't want to seem like a pretentious ass, but harsh vocals =/= screamo, and what you're thinking is screamo is probably not screamo at all.

 

Where the lead is screaming. It's quite self explanatory.

 

And on that note, over categorised music. It annoys me when people get annoyed that their favourite music is classed in a broader genre and not some super niche which nobody has ever heard of but is totally what it is.

I didn't enjoy the genre talk either until I started listening to more and more music; it's actually something to embrace so you can more accurately describe to someone what kind of music you like.

 

For example,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13wM7Iqdzb8

 

I hope you can see the vast differences between these two songs. Do you think someone who likes that first song would like the second? Probably not. That's why specific genres exist. The first song would probably be described as either 'technical metal' or 'progressive metal', somewhere in that area. The second would be 'crunkcore'.

 

This is why it's kind of dumb to listen to both those songs and say "oh yeah those are screamo." screamo is not a vocal style, it's a specific genre.

[Blaze The Movie Fan]

South Park, it's just so horrible.

[Alg]

The problem seems to be that you have to actually know about the (sub)genres for that kind of discussion to make any sense.

That principle could be applied to any other medium, as well. "All anime/action movies/fantasy novels/political thrillers/first-person shooters/etc are the same", for example. You have to be a fan to know that it isn't the case, but if you aren't a fan it doesn't matter.

[Danqazmlp]

Isn't the point so that you can convey to others the type of music? Most of the terms used to describe these incredibly niche music styles will go straight over the head of most people, defeating the point.

 

It seems to me that people have lost the ability to use descriptive words, instead just combine them into a term they wish to use.

 

Anyway, yeah that's just something I can't get into. If somebody said to me that they like 'crunkcore', I'd probably just walk off.

[champion]

Just like anything, you have to understand what audience you're talking to when you're describing the music. I'm probably not going to tell a 12 year old or a middle aged woman that I listen to melodic hardcore. But if I was trying to get music recommendations from a site like last.fm or pandora, or if I was discussing it on a music-based forum, or if I was talking with someone who I knew was knowledgeable about that kind of music, sure, I would call it what it is.

 

It seems to me that people have lost the ability to use descriptive words

That's pretty much exactly what genre names are.

[Danqazmlp]

'crunkcore' and 'progressive metal' describe nothing. Apart from being metal in the second one, neither of those terms describe anything in reality.

 

But I'll leave it as that, I just can't get into it.

[obfuscator]

'crunkcore' and 'progressive metal' describe nothing. Apart from being metal in the second one, neither of those terms describe anything in reality.

 

But I'll leave it as that, I just can't get into it.

Metal isn't descriptive in itself, it's only because you have genre knowledge to know what it means. In the same way, if you have further genre knowledge then you'll understand what crunkcore and progressive metal are.

 

The problem with music is that it's often difficult to describe.

[Will H]

What would you guys classify as screamo? I don't want to seem like a pretentious ass, but harsh vocals =/= screamo, and what you're thinking is screamo is probably not screamo at all.

 

I could widen the net a bit and say that if it's necessary to mention screaming in the name of the genre, then it's going to be done frequently enough to kill any of the emotional or artistic merit of the sound. It's like if you repeated the any word over and over, it loses its meaning.

[Maleficus1055]

What would you guys classify as screamo? I don't want to seem like a pretentious ass, but harsh vocals =/= screamo, and what you're thinking is screamo is probably not screamo at all.

 

I could widen the net a bit and say that if it's necessary to mention screaming in the name of the genre, then it's going to be done frequently enough to kill any of the emotional or artistic merit of the sound. It's like if you repeated the any word over and over, it loses its meaning.

 

I don't know how you can say any screaming kills emotion and artistic merit.

Songs with screaming can be very emotional and very artistic. The emotion may be anger, but it is an emotion. And to say the artistic quality isn't there is just ignorance. No different than the people who say "rap isn't music". Two examples right here:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0-FCmDcb0Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNdRh2un5eg

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[champion]

What would you guys classify as screamo? I don't want to seem like a pretentious ass, but harsh vocals =/= screamo, and what you're thinking is screamo is probably not screamo at all.

 

I could widen the net a bit and say that if it's necessary to mention screaming in the name of the genre, then it's going to be done frequently enough to kill any of the emotional or artistic merit of the sound. It's like if you repeated the any word over and over, it loses its meaning.

Maleficus summed it up, but really? Screaming means there's no emotion or artistic merit? If you want to discard entire genres of music based on one thing, then I assume it's fair to say all music where they sing is bad too? Just because it's not the norm and you don't enjoy it doesn't mean you can call it all bad.

 

 

This entire song is screamed. If you're going to say there's no artistic merit in this, fine, art is subjective so you could really say whatever you want about that. But this song conveys all sorts of emotion, and does a very good job at it.

[Tim]

South Park, it's just so horrible.

that's the thing; It's so horrible, it's hilarious to see.

[Randox]

I'm fairly certain that the only sub-genre I have a hope of identifying is night core. It's distinctive enough that I just needed a few sample songs, and I understand it. I haven't the faintest clue what the difference between techno/electronic/dance is, and I don't care because I like a lot of the stuff that falls under those labels. On a side note, I hate every song with screaming. The only band from that part of music I will listen to is Metallica, though I haven't heard enough of their stuff to know if I like it all or not (I mostly just listen to enter sandman). I also have no love for wicked guitar rifts. I much prefer base and drums.

 

I too dislike the use of sub-genres most of the time, because I have never been in an area of the internet where I should be expected to have a clue what they mean. If I want more music like stuff I like, I'll say I want more music like [name of artist], and normally someone can give me a couple names.

 

I've also noticed that people can't agree on what the sub-genres are. Everyone seems to have their own sample set that includes only bands they like, because obviously you can only love/hate the entire genre, and not just most of it.

[Crocefisso]

Given I am unable to distinguish between most genres of music, the last few posts on this thread might as well be written in a foreign language for me.

[demby123]

PC gaming

 

I was once like you. Then I got some PC games and I prefer it over my XBOX at times.

I have some PC games, liked them a bit, abandoned them as they boring somewhat quickly.

[Serpent Eye]

Everyone's clearly watching the wrong anime. :-P

[Will H]

What would you guys classify as screamo? I don't want to seem like a pretentious ass, but harsh vocals =/= screamo, and what you're thinking is screamo is probably not screamo at all.

 

I could widen the net a bit and say that if it's necessary to mention screaming in the name of the genre, then it's going to be done frequently enough to kill any of the emotional or artistic merit of the sound. It's like if you repeated the any word over and over, it loses its meaning.

Maleficus summed it up, but really? Screaming means there's no emotion or artistic merit? If you want to discard entire genres of music based on one thing, then I assume it's fair to say all music where they sing is bad too? Just because it's not the norm and you don't enjoy it doesn't mean you can call it all bad.

 

 

This entire song is screamed. If you're going to say there's no artistic merit in this, fine, art is subjective so you could really say whatever you want about that. But this song conveys all sorts of emotion, and does a very good job at it.

 

Firstly, no, it isn't fair to say that music where they sing is bad too. Singing is a much broader term that covers so many ranges and styles, it has the variety and flexibility which screaming lacks to bring out what's good about music. Hell, screaming has its place, if a song wants to be angry and shout at the world, that can and does sometimes work, but not if it's done throughout the entire song.

 

Secondly, sorry, but I thought that song was bad, the vocals had no emotional range or real meaning, and it would be much better with the vocals cut out. It's just my opinion, and you're perfectly free to have your own.

[Jonanananas]

What would you guys classify as screamo? I don't want to seem like a pretentious ass, but harsh vocals =/= screamo, and what you're thinking is screamo is probably not screamo at all.

 

I could widen the net a bit and say that if it's necessary to mention screaming in the name of the genre, then it's going to be done frequently enough to kill any of the emotional or artistic merit of the sound. It's like if you repeated the any word over and over, it loses its meaning.

Maleficus summed it up, but really? Screaming means there's no emotion or artistic merit? If you want to discard entire genres of music based on one thing, then I assume it's fair to say all music where they sing is bad too? Just because it's not the norm and you don't enjoy it doesn't mean you can call it all bad.

 

 

This entire song is screamed. If you're going to say there's no artistic merit in this, fine, art is subjective so you could really say whatever you want about that. But this song conveys all sorts of emotion, and does a very good job at it.

 

Firstly, no, it isn't fair to say that music where they sing is bad too. Singing is a much broader term that covers so many ranges and styles, it has the variety and flexibility which screaming lacks to bring out what's good about music. Hell, screaming has its place, if a song wants to be angry and shout at the world, that can and does sometimes work, but not if it's done throughout the entire song.

 

Secondly, sorry, but I thought that song was bad, the vocals had no emotional range or real meaning, and it would be much better with the vocals cut out. It's just my opinion, and you're perfectly free to have your own.

 

In the end, screaming(or growling) is just another way of singing. It's perfectly understandable if people don't like it, but it really has just the same place as "normal" vocals. Depends on the singer of course. Just as there are bad singers, there are bad screamers (Though the percentage probably is higher...)