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[meol]

Sounds fun. I'll partake.

 

I'll claim Spain. Why Spain, you ask? Well, now that the world's at peace, I'll redirect the whole of our military budget to building (and maintaining) the largest structure ever devised by mankind: The Grand Gibraltar Dam. The (absolutely clean) energy produced will be enough to turn us into the strongest economy in the world. It will be enough to pay for these AIDS vaccines as well.

 

 

 

So what will you do now?

[ThurinEthir]

okay.

 

 

 

india, just launched it's first nuclear submarine.

 

 

 

So just telling you guys.

 

 

 

first step for me is trying to get rid of all the corruption in india with its politicians and public servants.

 

Oh yea, forgot about you Indians.

 

Alliance plz?

 

Prevent major Chinese expansion together, look into SEA together? Sounds good?

 

 

 

Some updates on the situation in Taiwan:

 

-I forget to mention - not only would I work on technological (computer-related, mainly) advances, but I would get my doctors/scientists to do some medical research too. Everyone knows that all Asians are doctors, so I'm sure I could make some progress.

 

-The KMT has been defeated, the DPP is now in charge. The flag has been changed to the one in my avatar. Taiwan has no ties to the Republic of China, but is rather the Republic of Taiwan. This means a fairly liberal and left-wing government.

 

-Though I'm maintaining a military and have hinted at a show of aggressiveness towards southeast Asia, my nation is a mainly pacifist nation. The Confucian ideal of universal peace is strongly emphasized. Education is also fairly strongly emphasized as well.

 

-The islands that formerly were part of the Republic of China, but not necessarily part of Taiwan, are now up for grabs, should either Japan or China (or anyone else) want them. Of course, I will take them back under my wing if they desire me to.

 

-A significant harvest of starfruit and guava has occurred! You know you like exotic fruits. ;)

 

I think some negotiations are needed, istolethepie, by the way. Shall we attempt to build a tunnel across the Taiwan Strait? I believe we have some of the greatest engineers this world has seen in our lands. Let's show those silly Brits and French what a real tunnel is. :P

[indy500fan]

I'm leading a communist revolution to overthrow indy500fan and claim back and reform Norway from a parlamentary monarchy to a socialist republic, also I will make demands to Sweden to give us Jämtland and Härjedalen back to us where it belongs.

 

 

 

After awhile I will slowly let it reform into a collectivist anarchistic region, making it impossible to take over since there will be no larger government.

 

 

 

Luckily I had most of the military stationed on Svalbard as well as most of the government after the NIS informed me of the upcoming revolution. Now I am taking the country back via some force, but most people didn't want the revolution anyways so everything is back to normal.

 

 

 

See, I can godmod too ;) .

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

Norway will take some of the AIDs and malaria vaccinations as well as give some funding for the vaccines in poorer countries. This can be a straight cash transaction because of the wealth the country has built up, but it can also be paid in oil if desired.

 

 

 

Also would like to help fund the space exploration in certain ways, specifically: focus on space station colonization rather than lunar colonization and also focus on unmanned trips to the outer solar system rather than manned.

[Wisp]

Ok. Updated map and list.

 

 

 

Adrenal-India

 

Roccodog-Egypt

 

Latinoking-Israel

 

Kranked-Republic of Ireland

 

Mlbfan13-Russia

 

Istolethepie-China

 

Blackdawn, Sue_kitsu, Sworddude-UK

 

Penguingeek-Taiwan

 

evil_mumm_ra-USA

 

Lenticular_J, Doomsavenger & Nick-South American Empire

 

Flodder450-Holland

 

Lionheart-Canada

 

Indy500fan-Norway

 

Oldjoe-Germany

 

Mage_man0103-Australia

 

Fastortoise-Hawaii

 

 

 

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[Lenticular_J]

I don't think we should put Empire in our name, as it creates a bad image. Republic is good though, or something generally correlating to democracy.

 

 

 

I think with a unified South/Central America (AIDs vaccines and all! How about we trade cocoa and coffee for those vaccines? All you Hawaiians have are tons of pineapples and delicious fish - scientists' bodies physically require coffee and chocolate), Cuba would gladly join, especially since Fidel isn't the major man any more. Hopefully Cuba will buckle into a bit more democratic system, and the United States will get rid of that ridiculous embargo.

 

 

 

Now, I'm very wary of moving into Central America. It's even more impoverished than northern South America, and the drug wars in Mexico are just as bad as in Colombia. Perhaps we could get some help from the US to help stem illegal immigration by making Mexico suck less.

 

 

 

We're quite on our way to owning half of the Western Hemisphere. We still have to form a better plan for Venezuela, Cuba, and Colombia, and then move on to Central America/The Caribbean. We'll probably have to have Tortoise's go-ahead with our plans on these nations, but Bolivia and Peru should go easily. Ecuador will certainly follow Venezuela.

 

 

 

How are our internal affairs, Nick? Next stop: keeping Rocco company in Africa!

[ThurinEthir]

Didn't meol claim Spain? He made a brief description of his plans, which I would consider enough.

 

After a few days, can we start conquering unwanted lands? =P~

[Latinoking]

Also, trying to remove all the Palestinians from Israel to move to some random nearby country would be an equivalent task to the US government ordering all Canadian-Americans to be deported to Mexico. I would almost guarantee that that would not happen peacefully, and you would either be assassinated, or declared war upon.

 

 

 

I guess, I won't make it too random. Does anyone want the Palestine? C'mon, we can do a trade people! :

 

 

 

All country leaders who directed military funds to environmental conservation have been granted a special vacation home in Greece. Enjoy

 

 

 

I'm interested in the AIDs vaccines. Wanna pretend I got a lot of holy relics? One I will absolutely NOT trade the Spear of Destiny/Holy Lance. We can do a trade!

 

 

 

All military fund? :(

[indy500fan]

Are we allowed to claim more than one country? Looks like all of South America is under one color but only three users have claimed countries. Putting all three of your countries under one color is not a problem since you have an empire, but what about the other unclaimed countries? We should probably give it a little time for others to claim some countries before expansion is allowed.

[i_love_burritos]

okay.

 

 

 

india, just launched it's first nuclear submarine.

 

 

 

So just telling you guys.

 

 

 

first step for me is trying to get rid of all the corruption in india with its politicians and public servants.

 

Oh yea, forgot about you Indians.

 

Alliance plz?

 

 

 

Yes. Those Chinese are real ambitious bastards. Everyone, first chance you get - nuke the hell out of them.

[Latinoking]

okay.

 

 

 

india, just launched it's first nuclear submarine.

 

 

 

So just telling you guys.

 

 

 

first step for me is trying to get rid of all the corruption in india with its politicians and public servants.

 

Oh yea, forgot about you Indians.

 

Alliance plz?

 

 

 

Yes. Those Chinese are real ambitious bastards. Everyone, first chance you get - nuke the hell out of them.

 

 

 

We don't have any nukes.

[i_love_burritos]

okay.

 

 

 

india, just launched it's first nuclear submarine.

 

 

 

So just telling you guys.

 

 

 

first step for me is trying to get rid of all the corruption in india with its politicians and public servants.

 

Oh yea, forgot about you Indians.

 

Alliance plz?

 

 

 

Yes. Those Chinese are real ambitious bastards. Everyone, first chance you get - nuke the hell out of them.

 

We don't have any nukes.

 

What country are you again ?

 

 

 

I've got an idea - to minimise the confusion - please put your nation and any alliances in your signture.

[Lenticular_J]

Mmm, that's true, not a whole lot of people have joined yet.

 

 

 

We need to develop a mod for Civilization IV or something and actually play this, haha.

[Latinoking]

Israel; Adrenal.

[Wisp]

We won't be expanding any more for a bit though, though the OP ok'd our expansion.

 

I'd suggest that you can expand into unclaimed territories, but be reasonable. Don't magically expand without an explanation that's reasonable, so for example, australia doesn't randomly take over greece.

 

Unless the OP disagrees, here's what I'm thinking has happened with the SAR.

 

 

 

Ok, as for the South American Republic, we now control the majority of S america. All of the annexation has been done peacefully, through either benefits to member countries, or ultimatums for those that refuse to join. The SAR (south american republic) currently is in debt, due to it's massive expansionism, but due to the literally 10s of millions of new jobs created, and the removal of foreign exploiters from brazil, the economy is booming, and debt will be paid off within a few years. While we are not energy independent yet, a large portion of our energy is generated by wind and solar power, and that percentage is increasing daily. Columbia and Venezuela have yet to join our Empire, but they likely will in the future, as mutual diplomats have been discussing their possible membership in the SAR.

 

A icbm missile defense system has been built along the coast of brazil. Due to new military policies, the majority of all citizens in brazil have undergone basic training, and our military reserve has increased by half a million men & women. Poverty is still an issue, but the gap between the wealthy and the poor is shrinking. Homelessness is now nonexistant, due to the enormous city reorganization projects, that effectively removed shantytowns, and greatly improved the quality of life of millions.

 

All, except for the parts that would provide no benefit, of the land that was clear-cut by foreign loggers has been built up into wind and solar farms. Roofs in cities are slowly being equipped with solar panels, but it is a slow process.

 

Free education is now provided in most areas, and all students are required to learn spanish, and are heavily encouraged to learn either English or Chinese as well.

 

Similar things are happening throughout south america, though to lesser extents. We hope to do what we have done in brazil to the rest of SA sometime in the near future.

 

I'll leave what happens to argentina up to lent here.

[ThurinEthir]

 

 

 

We don't have any nukes.

 

Imaginary nukes. :-$

 

 

We need to develop a mod for Civilization IV or something and actually play this, haha.

 

I thought of CivIV (RFC mod) as soon as I read this thread. :P

 

 

 

And I don't think I need to put what country I am in my sig, if I don't mention Taiwan enough in my posts, you can just look at my avatar... :|

[indy500fan]

I've got an idea - to minimise the confusion - please put your nation and any alliances in your signture.

 

 

 

Sorry, my signature doesn't change. You may have noticed a broken image link in my picture for a few months now :D .

[Albel]

If possible I would like to join force with Evil_mumm_ra. Not with what he wants though :lol: . I would like to improve air travel around the world. I will hire the best aernautical engineer's in the world, in order to improve air travel. This will include...

 

 

 

Safer Air travel across the board.

 

Planes that can go faster and farther with less fule.

 

To build air ports in evey country, so everone can use this type of transporation.

 

Build new types of commerical, and private jets, that can carry more people., again with less fule used.

 

To develope jets that are 'green' with less polution emmited during use of thses planes.

 

 

 

Hope that is enough information so that i can help :pray:

[Lenticular_J]

Well, I'll need to see if Nick agrees, but generally a lot of ruralization. People are leaving the cities for the nearly free land in the Pampas and Patagonia and building small farms. Most people are growing enough to survive, and many are turning the rest of their land into farms for wind, solar, or other green power sources. Many disgusting lakes in the Buenos Aires region are being studied for possibilities of using the algae in them for power. The military is almost 400,000 active personnel strong now, and the Air Force has doubled in size, while the Navy has almost quadrupled. Ship routes around the Cape are being monitored due to very plausible pirate activity, and rail routes are being built between the Atlantic and Pacific.

 

 

 

Now, if other people would play as major places like Cuba, Venezuela and the like, it would be nice, because really Argentina, Brazil, and Venezuela are the major powers of South America anyways.

 

 

 

Also, Argentine agricultural scientists have developed new crops and new methods of growing old crops, making Argentines the leaders of advancement in tropical agriculture - namely bananas, cocoa, and coffee, which have all taken hold surprisingly well in the relatively dry Pampas, thanks to new irrigation techniques. We may give sugar cane a swing soon, but that might be iffy - sugar cane needs to be a lot more wet than coffee trees.

[Latinoking]

 

 

 

We don't have any nukes.

 

Imaginary nukes. :-$

 

 

 

Re-Read this please.

 

 

 

EQUALLY IMPORTANT: Only the scientists in Hawaii have access nuclear warheads. All those existing before the Peace Treaty have been successfully destroyed. So, if you wish to wage war on another country, you are only allowed to use your own citizens in fights - NO NUKES. Only my head (mad) scientist Lenin has power over nuclear warheads, which probably wasn't a wise decision on my part.

 

 

 

We have NO nukes.

 

 

 

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Egypt we should be allies imo. Do you agree?

[indy500fan]

Norway, due to it's recent expansion of it's military (5% spending increase, 2% for more personnel and 3% for new technology) as well as contributing to the New World Order's AIDS/Malaria vaccines for itself and poorer countries along with contributions to space exploration has spent more than usual. This has called for an increase of the rate that the country is allowed to spend The Government Pension Fund from 4% to 6%. If the South American coalition gets Venezuela and agrees to the non-OPEC oil cartel along with steadily increasing prices the extra income for the next few years will allow the rate to go back down to 4%.

[Latinoking]

And Latinoking, as an Arab state we can not be allied with you, as it would condone the possibility of the eviction of all of the Palestinians from your country.

 

 

 

Well you accept the Palestinians from my land at least? Their conflict of their religion has gone on too far. (As I believe this to still un-peaceful, even though OP has said everything is peaceful.)

 

 

 

You can ask for payment and receive a service for this deed. This goes for any Arab Country as well!

[fastortoise]

Since I decided awhile ago to make up the rules as we go along, here are the new 'rules':

 

 

 

No player may expand his power by conquering another (occupied or not) country without an ally of a well established nation. So, for example, Lionheart cannot simply say "Canada surprise-invades the US and overthrows evil-mumm-ra" unless he goes in with Mexico or South America, for example. However, I am lenient with some circumstances: I will not frown upon Roccodog conquering an African country every few days since they are poorer countries. He is however responsible for making it a better place for all it's citizens!

 

 

 

I also encourage grouping certain countries together, to avoid technicalities and to make this 'game' progress longer. Some countries just aren't desireable as others, which is why rulers of poorer countries will generally have more countries and territory than rulers of already well established countries. Many have probably noticed I did not object to Blackdawn, Sue and Racheya's rule over the UK - this is actually the type of thing I want to see (also take Lent & Doom's reign).

 

 

 

I would like to stress regular posters to slow down a bit, and let others partake in their new world plans. It would be unfair to simply let avid posters take over land while others are away from their computers. Atleast let everyone pick their own country, then you can start harseling them. Then I will impose a 1day=1year type rule Adrenal suggested earlier. You can of course post your hearts out, discussing fair trade with other nations, but avoid posting storyline changing moments everyday is what i'm trying to get across.

[indy500fan]

Since I decided awhile ago to make up the rules as we go along, here are the new 'rules':

 

 

 

No player may expand his power by conquering another (occupied or not) country without an ally of a well established nation. So, for example, Lionheart cannot simply say "Canada surprise-invades the US and overthrows evil-mumm-ra" unless he goes in with Mexico or South America, for example. However, I am lenient with some circumstances: I will not frown upon Roccodog conquering an African country every few days since they are poorer countries. He is however responsible for making it a better place for all it's citizens!

 

 

 

I also encourage grouping certain countries together, to avoid technicalities and to make this 'game' progress longer. Some countries just aren't desireable as others, which is why rulers of poorer countries will generally have more countries and territory than rulers of already well established countries. Many have probably noticed I did not object to Blackdawn, Sue and Racheya's rule over the UK - this is actually the type of thing I want to see (also take Lent & Doom's reign).

 

 

 

I would like to stress regular posters to slow down a bit, and let others partake in their new world plans. It would be unfair to simply let avid posters take over land while others are away from their computers. Atleast let everyone pick their own country, then you can start harseling them. Then I will impose a 1day=1year type rule Adrenal suggested earlier. You can of course post your hearts out, discussing fair trade with other nations, but avoid posting storyline changing moments everyday is what i'm trying to get across.

 

 

 

Can we form alliances with "unoccupied" countries until they are occupied? For example I would like to ally with Finland and Denmark (Sweden will be the country I conquer today, and probably no others for quite a long time).

 

 

 

Also, when can I expect those AIDs and Malaria vaccines :D ? Being the only one so far to help fund your idea in the original post about space exploration I would like to request that the commander of the first year's expeditions be Norwegian.

[Wisp]

I'm gonna expand on my previous post, go a bit more into depth about brazil.

 

 

 

In the past few years, in real life, urbanization has increased immensely, and in the hegemony, atleast 85% of citizens live in cities or urban centers. The remaining 15% work either in the energy farms, or agriculture farms. Mining has now been mostly automated, other than those needed to control the machines. Most of what we produce goes back into brazil due to the massive amount of resources needed to achieve our urban projects. We still export a decent amount of iron, oranges, corn, and ethanol. (this also is happening irl ->) the road system is being improved greatly to allow easier trade with our neighboring provinces(or states or whatever) of the SAR, and overall safer transportation. Crime has gone down in cities, since there is a lot less need for stealing after all the reforms.

 

 

 

I think the SAR wants to ally with china, and I guess Taiwan. Would that work for you two?

 

As part of the alliance, Brazil and the SAR need more advanced weapons technology, and possibly have china supply us. Considering all of our militaries are antiquated, with the majority of vehicles malfunctioning, and some assets are from pre-WWII. In exchange we can export energy in various forms to you at a decreased price, and also give you a discount on any other exports.

 

 

 

I don't think any of this goes against what tortoise said, since most of it is about trade, rather than development.

[Da Pirates]

Indy, you want to form an alliance with me? I can help you conquer many countries and i'm always looking for defense from an attack. I'll also protect you if you were to get attacked.