At the speed that suomi going through slayer right now, he deserves the donations. I guess his supporters will only be mad if he slacks off after taking all the donations.

^This

i think you all should donate to obtaurian he needs money for 200m in all skills!

 

oh also he is going through [x] skill very fast so he is deserving of your money

 

This. My private chat is always on public. :thumbup:

 

But anyway, I still do not see why people are so against the donations.

Why doesn't Suomi buy like 10b for $7500?

Why doesn't Suomi buy like 10b for $7500?

 

1. RWT

2. $7500

Why doesn't Suomi buy like 10b for $7500?

 

That would negate the validity of his account, since you know, it is against Jagex's rules. If Suomi was careless enough (not implying that he is) to RWT $7500 worth of gp, then he wouldn't care enough to have raised his account this high.

 

On topic: The way in which money is acquired and accrued is a vital consideration for anyone considering a feat in the magnitude of 200 million xp in all skills. Suomi has asked people to donate to him. He has not coerced anyone into donating to him, and people that do donate do so because they want to help.

 

Some may challenge donations as a money making method and devalue the achievements of individuals who have gained a lot of xp through donated money, but you have to remember that once someone has made money, it is theirs. If they choose to donate to another player, it is their choice, and therefore shouldn't even be considered invalid or less worthy.

 

The only reason people say it's bad is because they have a different (not false) sense of achievement.

 

I'm sure if any of the other top players asked for donations that they would also receive a lot, but it is the person's choice which affects his or her gameplay, no-one elses.

Why doesn't Suomi buy like 10b for $7500?

IRL donations please.

I think people read into the donations too much. It doesnt matter if the player asks for donations, or people willingly donate out of kindness; either way its their money, they made the choice, they can do what ever they want with it.

 

The point is though that going for 200m xp in all skills is the biggest goal in runescape. It shouldnt be taken on lightly, and anyone who does aspire to attain it, either vaguely or definitely has it in mind, knows that it not only requires time, dedication, and patience, but also money. Before free trade came back, perhaps even now still, merchanting made a lot of money, but at what price. You manipulate the item, the market, other people may suffer. Where as with donations, no problem there.

 

And because it is such a big goal, many people know that they would never get it. They know there's no point aiming for it because they don't have the time, money, patience; what ever it is that is needed and they lack. I give credit to SUOMI for evening starting to go for all 200ms even when he didnt have a lot of money; perhaps that is why he started with fishing, agility, etc. But the point is that, because people know they cant get 200m in all skills, donating allows them to live vicariously. Your donation helps that player (whoever he or she is) to get to where they are now. Without that donation that player would not be where they are now. You are in part responsible and a part of that progress. Don't take anything away from the player, they put the time in, had the patience, dedication, but its a win win situation and thats the best outcome.

Is S U O M I following any xensure's task list?

I'm guessing he's going for the more profitable less boring tasks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWouH58U2vU

 

Fastest and afkable method for the poor guys :)

I'm guessing he's going for the more profitable less boring tasks.

Not less boring, he powerslays and doesn't do the easier(and less xp) afk tasks. As I see it, his priorities are Xp > Gp > Boring > Afk. Honestly, I don't know why you keep trying to claim that he wastes Xp lol.

Not less boring, he powerslays whatever task he gets

 

 

So, not even skipping tasks?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWouH58U2vU

 

Fastest and afkable method for the poor guys :)

 

If you're going to cook rocktails you should cook them at the GE so you can merch at the same time. It's slightly less xp because you have to light your own fires, but it's worth it imo.

Not less boring, he powerslays whatever task he gets

 

 

So, not even skipping tasks?

Sorry, I phrased that badly lol.

Did this really happen?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaNejYWTjKY&feature=channel_video_title

 

If so, they screwed up badly.

Did this really happen?

 

 

If so, they screwed up badly.

 

 

yes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWouH58U2vU

 

Fastest and afkable method for the poor guys :)

 

If you're going to cook rocktails you should cook them at the GE so you can merch at the same time. It's slightly less xp because you have to light your own fires, but it's worth it imo.

 

I'll do it. Thanks for the idea.

Is S U O M I following any xensure's task list?

 

He mostly follows Vex's effigy slayer list that vex posted in his effigyscape thread, but sumoi also does other tasks that he "feels like doing." So those tasks are probably some combination of profit, effigies, and slayer points. He probably doesn't worry too much about charms since he will have a lot of melee xp left are 200m slayer.

 

Those task lists numbers were grossly inaccurate. The NPCs were correct for the most part with the maximum lists. But the optimal list was far off. I have made several changes to the model since then and have had some help from people over on Aasiwat's forums with the data. So far I have 103 of Viv's tasks and 198 of Elessar's task with no blocks, but this sample size is still too small to accurately predict the probability of assignment. My formulas for calculating the expected number of each NPC killed are solid, but the problem comes down to the data. Since I don't play, I can't test my self and that means I rely on others so the going is slow. As of now there isn't much I can do. I will edit the look of the model and make it user friendly so that people wondering about what tasks they want to do can play around with it, but the out put numbers will still be scaled quite far off until the probability of assignment becomes more accurate through larger samples.

Is S U O M I following any xensure's task list?

 

He mostly follows Vex's effigy slayer list that vex posted in his effigyscape thread, but sumoi also does other tasks that he "feels like doing." So those tasks are probably some combination of profit, effigies, and slayer points. He probably doesn't worry too much about charms since he will have a lot of melee xp left are 200m slayer.

 

Those task lists numbers were grossly inaccurate. The NPCs were correct for the most part with the maximum lists. But the optimal list was far off. I have made several changes to the model since then and have had some help from people over on Aasiwat's forums with the data. So far I have 103 of Viv's tasks and 198 of Elessar's task with no blocks, but this sample size is still too small to accurately predict the probability of assignment. My formulas for calculating the expected number of each NPC killed are solid, but the problem comes down to the data. Since I don't play, I can't test my self and that means I rely on others so the going is slow. As of now there isn't much I can do. I will edit the look of the model and make it user friendly so that people wondering about what tasks they want to do can play around with it, but the out put numbers will still be scaled quite far off until the probability of assignment becomes more accurate through larger samples.

 

I dont understand the no blocking why not still cancel just record the tasks u cancel it wouldnt be any different then doing the task then getting new 1 afterword to just figure out the frequency of getting tasks assigned or w/e just write down each slayer monster kuradel can assign u and write the number +1 everytime she assigns that task weather u cancel it or not so she assigns ice strykes put 1 next to it she assigns that again but a 2 next to it and erase the 1 regardless of if u do it or not

Is S U O M I following any xensure's task list?

 

He mostly follows Vex's effigy slayer list that vex posted in his effigyscape thread, but sumoi also does other tasks that he "feels like doing." So those tasks are probably some combination of profit, effigies, and slayer points. He probably doesn't worry too much about charms since he will have a lot of melee xp left are 200m slayer.

 

Those task lists numbers were grossly inaccurate. The NPCs were correct for the most part with the maximum lists. But the optimal list was far off. I have made several changes to the model since then and have had some help from people over on Aasiwat's forums with the data. So far I have 103 of Viv's tasks and 198 of Elessar's task with no blocks, but this sample size is still too small to accurately predict the probability of assignment. My formulas for calculating the expected number of each NPC killed are solid, but the problem comes down to the data. Since I don't play, I can't test my self and that means I rely on others so the going is slow. As of now there isn't much I can do. I will edit the look of the model and make it user friendly so that people wondering about what tasks they want to do can play around with it, but the out put numbers will still be scaled quite far off until the probability of assignment becomes more accurate through larger samples.

 

I dont understand the no blocking why not still cancel just record the tasks u cancel it wouldnt be any different then doing the task then getting new 1 afterword to just figure out the frequency of getting tasks assigned or w/e just write down each slayer monster kuradel can assign u and write the number +1 everytime she assigns that task weather u cancel it or not so she assigns ice strykes put 1 next to it she assigns that again but a 2 next to it and erase the 1 regardless of if u do it or not

 

cmon dude this is completely unreadable

Is S U O M I following any xensure's task list?

 

He mostly follows Vex's effigy slayer list that vex posted in his effigyscape thread, but sumoi also does other tasks that he "feels like doing." So those tasks are probably some combination of profit, effigies, and slayer points. He probably doesn't worry too much about charms since he will have a lot of melee xp left are 200m slayer.

 

Those task lists numbers were grossly inaccurate. The NPCs were correct for the most part with the maximum lists. But the optimal list was far off. I have made several changes to the model since then and have had some help from people over on Aasiwat's forums with the data. So far I have 103 of Viv's tasks and 198 of Elessar's task with no blocks, but this sample size is still too small to accurately predict the probability of assignment. My formulas for calculating the expected number of each NPC killed are solid, but the problem comes down to the data. Since I don't play, I can't test my self and that means I rely on others so the going is slow. As of now there isn't much I can do. I will edit the look of the model and make it user friendly so that people wondering about what tasks they want to do can play around with it, but the out put numbers will still be scaled quite far off until the probability of assignment becomes more accurate through larger samples.

 

I dont understand the no blocking why not still cancel just record the tasks u cancel it wouldnt be any different then doing the task then getting new 1 afterword to just figure out the frequency of getting tasks assigned or w/e just write down each slayer monster kuradel can assign u and write the number +1 everytime she assigns that task weather u cancel it or not so she assigns ice strykes put 1 next to it she assigns that again but a 2 next to it and erase the 1 regardless of if u do it or not

How can xe' get the assignment rate of aquanites that way?

And yoooo is right, more full stops please.

Is S U O M I following any xensure's task list?

 

He mostly follows Vex's effigy slayer list that vex posted in his effigyscape thread, but sumoi also does other tasks that he "feels like doing." So those tasks are probably some combination of profit, effigies, and slayer points. He probably doesn't worry too much about charms since he will have a lot of melee xp left are 200m slayer.

 

Those task lists numbers were grossly inaccurate. The NPCs were correct for the most part with the maximum lists. But the optimal list was far off. I have made several changes to the model since then and have had some help from people over on Aasiwat's forums with the data. So far I have 103 of Viv's tasks and 198 of Elessar's task with no blocks, but this sample size is still too small to accurately predict the probability of assignment. My formulas for calculating the expected number of each NPC killed are solid, but the problem comes down to the data. Since I don't play, I can't test my self and that means I rely on others so the going is slow. As of now there isn't much I can do. I will edit the look of the model and make it user friendly so that people wondering about what tasks they want to do can play around with it, but the out put numbers will still be scaled quite far off until the probability of assignment becomes more accurate through larger samples.

 

I dont understand the no blocking why not still cancel just record the tasks u cancel it wouldnt be any different then doing the task then getting new 1 afterword to just figure out the frequency of getting tasks assigned or w/e just write down each slayer monster kuradel can assign u and write the number +1 everytime she assigns that task weather u cancel it or not so she assigns ice strykes put 1 next to it she assigns that again but a 2 next to it and erase the 1 regardless of if u do it or not

Because the whole point of gathering data of this is so the 5 MOST frequent tasks which you do not want to do are blocked, this way you attain more slayer points on blocking and skipping the same amount of tasks. If you are to do this however with blocking certain tasks, than basically you are only going to get the frequency of the tasks that are not blocked not for all the slayer monsters itself.

 

The frequency is meant to be for all slayer monsters, as gathering for some slayer monsters would not serve any purpose. Also we can not be sure that by blocking slayer monster X it will make slayer monster Y be more frequently assigned than slayer monster Z, as compared to before where slayer monster X was not blocked, and slayer monster Z was assigned more than Y. Now that might not seem likely, but in like most other math, assumptions are not something favorably used.

 

Hope that explains why, and also next time try to communicate your message a bit better, it was almost like deciphering a puzzle lol.

By any chance are black demons 107k+ melee xp/hr in taverly dungeon (not that odd spot arib found that we talked about a few pages back)

If you don't pick anything up. Add chArms and ashes to that and your melee xp takes a hit as does kill rate. Unless you excessively click.

I wasn't including picking up ashes so its possible if you telegrabbed charms during combat?