200M in all Skills

[xpx]

You don't get a GG in C2, the leader is the ggs.

 

You are most likely to finish the floor in a C2 before fishing spots are fished out.

 

If you want to just fish for xp, do floors 1-4/5 and repeat since they have the easiest bosses I guess. You could also technically leave floor before boss and do that over and over.

 

C2 solo is around 90k fishing per hour @ 6minutes avg floor/8-9k xp. 30-35 C2's per reset. (That's a 6minute avg including the furnished floors)

 

Or you can C2 duo w/ one person's shared turned off. Either - finish floor as soon as boss is dead, or wait out the fishing spots. That's obviously depends on your partner and whether your priority is doing more dg floors asap. C2 Duo will take around an hour longer than 5:1 C1, so you can pay them appropriately, say the 2m spent on them with their xp turned off, you could earn back in that time.

 

There are several approaches of using the C2 method, which is what makes it relatively interesting I guess. IF C2'ng all the way to 200m dg you could expect A lot of fishing xp at the cost of only around 1 hour per reset using xp off duo method.

Now that i've tested it further, it's vry much clear that lower floors have the most fishing spot(as they should have, easy floor=more resource) and as all the bosses from f1-6 take like 20 seconds with primal rapier(the best c1 bind by far) you shouldn't even leave floors before boss as that would take more time. Soloing with cosmics and rapier bound on floors 1-~8 is around 130-140k fishing xp an hour, with likely up to 180k duo. The tests thai did are basically useless because of their nature, and nearing 200k without having 3+ people in there is very much unrealistic(and even with 5 people it might not be possible).

 

And LMAO at the question thai just asked...

[Sawercats]

You don't get a GG in C2, the leader is the ggs.

 

You are most likely to finish the floor in a C2 before fishing spots are fished out.

 

If you want to just fish for xp, do floors 1-4/5 and repeat since they have the easiest bosses I guess. You could also technically leave floor before boss and do that over and over.

 

C2 solo is around 90k fishing per hour @ 6minutes avg floor/8-9k xp. 30-35 C2's per reset. (That's a 6minute avg including the furnished floors)

 

Or you can C2 duo w/ one person's shared turned off. Either - finish floor as soon as boss is dead, or wait out the fishing spots. That's obviously depends on your partner and whether your priority is doing more dg floors asap. C2 Duo will take around an hour longer than 5:1 C1, so you can pay them appropriately, say the 2m spent on them with their xp turned off, you could earn back in that time.

 

There are several approaches of using the C2 method, which is what makes it relatively interesting I guess. IF C2'ng all the way to 200m dg you could expect A lot of fishing xp at the cost of only around 1 hour per reset using xp off duo method.

Now that i've tested it further, it's vry much clear that lower floors have the most fishing spot(as they should have, easy floor=more resource) and as all the bosses from f1-6 take like 20 seconds with primal rapier(the best c1 bind by far) you shouldn't even leave floors before boss as that would take more time. Soloing with cosmics and rapier bound on floors 1-~8 is around 130-140k fishing xp an hour, with likely up to 180k duo. The tests thai did are basically useless because of their nature, and nearing 200k without having 3+ people in there is very much unrealistic(and even with 5 people it might not be possible).

 

And LMAO at the question thai just asked...

Yeah ive been messing around fishing in dung for the hell of it, the frozen floors have a LOT more fishing spots than abandoned furnished etc

[GE_Slave_o]

Averaging 127.5k fishing xp/h C2 Solo at lvl 86 fishing. I am not killing boss.

[langer]

Green098 has passed Erw J for rank 14. She will pass Lan very soon also but could see Skiller 703 pass her in the coming weeks.

[haimonek]

You guys seem to be getting loads of fishing xp! The spots I can fish are blue crabs and salve eels and I seem to get around 80k xp/hr, I do slack though ;). So this might be more "realistic" xp gains. :D

 

Anyway question, is it just me or are the lowest floors 1-10 offering the most fish spots? (Oh, this question was answered already, sorry to lazy to read through some posts ;) ) I did floors 16-20 and only got around 16k xp in total while I was getting that amount of xp in just two dungeons on floors 1-10. Does anyone know this? I also might recommend binding cosmics. Extremely usefull when fishing!!

 

Btw, if duoing, is that with a partner that fishes too? Or only cleans the dung while you fish?

[Paperbag]

Ok thats it. I refuse to dg anymore. After attempting to key a floor 47 occult which I did pretty decent on, it all went downhill once we got thunderous. No one knew what the hell they were doing. I died 4 times and he just kept healing. I know how to kill him on solo I just cant do it with idiots who dont know what they are doing. So I was forced to quit and we never finished it. I did all that keying for a floor only to have it wasted. I am never going to dg again. I guess I'll just camp black demons for effigies to finish off 99. I actually cried and sobbed hard after this happened. Don't ask why, I got problems. At least I bought all the rewards I wanted from the trader.

[jettrider]

Now that i've tested it further, it's vry much clear that lower floors have the most fishing spot(as they should have, easy floor=more resource) and as all the bosses from f1-6 take like 20 seconds with primal rapier(the best c1 bind by far) you shouldn't even leave floors before boss as that would take more time. Soloing with cosmics and rapier bound on floors 1-~8 is around 130-140k fishing xp an hour, with likely up to 180k duo. The tests thai did are basically useless because of their nature, and nearing 200k without having 3+ people in there is very much unrealistic(and even with 5 people it might not be possible).

 

And LMAO at the question thai just asked...

 

I agree with the first part. I did some c2 occults and they sucked. One dungeon had no fishing spots at all, another had 3, etc. I'll do 1-35 c2 until 99 fishing though.

 

I'm torn between doing c2s naturally and cycling the frozen floors for pure fishing exp. Jagex will probably lower the exp at some point.

[Amethyst_Gem]

Ok thats it. I refuse to dg anymore. After attempting to key a floor 47 occult which I did pretty decent on, it all went downhill once we got thunderous. No one knew what the hell they were doing. I died 4 times and he just kept healing. I know how to kill him on solo I just cant do it with idiots who dont know what they are doing. So I was forced to quit and we never finished it. I did all that keying for a floor only to have it wasted. I am never going to dg again. I guess I'll just camp black demons for effigies to finish off 99. I actually cried and sobbed hard after this happened. Don't ask why, I got problems. At least I bought all the rewards I wanted from the trader.

 

If that happens just solo it and get your team mates to make you strong melee and prayer pots. Sure it takes a while but it's much better than quitting.

[Thingamajig]

Ok thats it. I refuse to dg anymore. After attempting to key a floor 47 occult which I did pretty decent on, it all went downhill once we got thunderous. No one knew what the hell they were doing. I died 4 times and he just kept healing. I know how to kill him on solo I just cant do it with idiots who dont know what they are doing. So I was forced to quit and we never finished it. I did all that keying for a floor only to have it wasted. I am never going to dg again. I guess I'll just camp black demons for effigies to finish off 99. I actually cried and sobbed hard after this happened. Don't ask why, I got problems. At least I bought all the rewards I wanted from the trader.

 

Dealing with idiots is part of the skill. I am surprised you havent used your fame as a skiller with massive amounts of total xp to make your way into pro dunge cc's. Or joined up with tip.it's dgs clan.

 

Paperbag, I'm sure you'd be quite content with the skill if you did it with friends, or joined a pro clan chat - e.g. the dung one they were advertising before, or maybe even Supreme Skillers.

[Makaveli_93]

Ok thats it. I refuse to dg anymore. After attempting to key a floor 47 occult which I did pretty decent on, it all went downhill once we got thunderous. No one knew what the hell they were doing. I died 4 times and he just kept healing. I know how to kill him on solo I just cant do it with idiots who dont know what they are doing. So I was forced to quit and we never finished it. I did all that keying for a floor only to have it wasted. I am never going to dg again. I guess I'll just camp black demons for effigies to finish off 99. I actually cried and sobbed hard after this happened. Don't ask why, I got problems. At least I bought all the rewards I wanted from the trader.

 

Wow get over it L... Everyone has had those problems, I can't even remember how many ragequitters I've been with when I was below 100. I'm not even gonna comment on the crying and sobbing part over a game.

 

Edit:

For Langer: Elias is doing Herblore atm but he decided that he'll get 150m cons xp or so after that.

[haimonek]

Paperbag, seriously? I bet loads of decent dungers would love to dung with you. Why are you dunging with idiots? :P No wonder you hate the skill so much. It's alot more fun with people who know what they're doing.

[xpx]

Ok thats it. I refuse to dg anymore. After attempting to key a floor 47 occult which I did pretty decent on, it all went downhill once we got thunderous. No one knew what the hell they were doing. I died 4 times and he just kept healing. I know how to kill him on solo I just cant do it with idiots who dont know what they are doing. So I was forced to quit and we never finished it. I did all that keying for a floor only to have it wasted. I am never going to dg again. I guess I'll just camp black demons for effigies to finish off 99. I actually cried and sobbed hard after this happened. Don't ask why, I got problems. At least I bought all the rewards I wanted from the trader.

That's really why you should join a group to dg. In a group setting it's easier for people to teach others and for the team to take notice, while in random teams people take offense of being told what to do and are generally stubborn. There are actually many groups you can join, obviously dgs being one of them, but once you can get to 100 or 105 ultimate dg or 3bo are very good options aswell. Obviously only dgs is tip.it based, thus why i would always mention it first, and it's also the only one with no level requirements.

 

As for thunderous, if you see the team is crap at it just order them all to go out and make/drop strong melee/rejuv potions on ggs. In a solo setting, assuming you never screw up(which is very reasonable) and use turmoil, thunderous doesn't even take that long(like 2 min solo with primal 2h, strong melee and turmoil).

 

 

I finally got around to binding a prom hatchet today and testing how woodcutting would work. I did the test over frozen floors 1-11, completed every dungeon(got plane freezer 3 times, which is a slow boss) and got beast mode every time. The total time it took was 84 minutes(used real time, not dungeon time counter) and i gained 129,7k woodcutting and 84,1k fishing xp in that time. That is an average of 84k woodcutting and 60k fishing xp an hour. Now, i did get unlucky with the fish i got, so i summed them into my frozen floor average(data over 100+ frozen floors, my average for the test was 47) and used the average figure of 60 fish per dungeon to see what the results would be with more average dungeons(and assumed it takes 2,5 seconds to get one fish, which is very consistent for me). The results would have been 86k woodcutting and 71k fishing xp an hour, which is very reasonable. I also calculated how much pure wc xp an hour i could get, and again, assuming it takes 2,5 seconds per fish, the hourly rate would have been around 124k an hour, more if i'd had a primal hatchet(prob like 5% more).

 

Now i know this isn't much data, but it atleast proves that c2 skilling is both fastest woodcutting or fishing xp in game(and even better if you combine them), and if you'd have a friend do the dungeon for you, it would be ridiculously fast. Keep in mind, for all the tests i've done, i've never used mousekeys for dropping, had cosmics bound or quit before any boss, so the maximum rates assuming you only want to skill(i do them as i need c1's done) would likely be 140k fishing or 160k woodcutting(or 80k fishing and 90k woodcutting) xp an hour assuming you do floors 1-5 having cosmics bound and either have rapier(can do all 4 bosses real fast, likely still quit icefiend) or quit dungeon before boss; soloing.

 

Also, as you can see, i haven't mentioned firemaking. That is because the skill itself is so fast(412k xp PH according to grimy) that you'd need to burn one log per 2,1 seconds for it to be on par with fming in normal rs(that 2,1 seconds is for both the extra movement it takes you and the actual time it takes you to light the logs) and i'm not really sure that's doable(it takes around 2,5 seconds to fish one fish and 4,2 seconds to cut a log).

 

Oh, and i'd also appreatiate it if anyone could give me an accurate account of the fastest fishing and woodcutting methods in game without dungeoneering. The other xp you get while doing the best methods(as i'm fairly sure fishing will be barb fishing and woodcutting with adze) can be discounted against the best method for each skill(620k cooking xp an hour, 412k fming xp an hour and 95k agility xp an hour, strength is basically worthless but can be seen as around 1m xp an hour).

[Superheat]

Ok thats it. I refuse to dg anymore. After attempting to key a floor 47 occult which I did pretty decent on, it all went downhill once we got thunderous. No one knew what the hell they were doing. I died 4 times and he just kept healing. I know how to kill him on solo I just cant do it with idiots who dont know what they are doing. So I was forced to quit and we never finished it. I did all that keying for a floor only to have it wasted. I am never going to dg again. I guess I'll just camp black demons for effigies to finish off 99. I actually cried and sobbed hard after this happened. Don't ask why, I got problems. At least I bought all the rewards I wanted from the trader.

 

You shouldn´t see this as a problem Paper, just train the skills you enjoy. More than anyone else you should know that in the (near) future dg'ing will change again, made easier in other words. It's what happened to all skills. By the time you've reached 200m in all other skills.... Dung will be doable. :wink:

 

Anyway, good luck with your future goals.

 

Superheat88

[Thai_tong]

I don't know a lot about dg so excuse me if there is an obvious answer. Why are C2 samall better than C2 large? I would have thought there were just more fishing spots in the larger dungeon with a similar room:fishing spot ratio.

u cant c2 a large :P

That would explain it :lol:

 

 

Oh, and i'd also appreatiate it if anyone could give me an accurate account of the fastest fishing and woodcutting methods in game without dungeoneering. The other xp you get while doing the best methods(as i'm fairly sure fishing will be barb fishing and woodcutting with adze) can be discounted against the best method for each skill(620k cooking xp an hour, 412k fming xp an hour and 95k agility xp an hour, strength is basically worthless but can be seen as around 1m xp an hour).

Fishing - barb with or without eating is best.

 

Woodcutting - Splitting arctic pines with d axe > splitting arctic pines with adze > teaks

Or if you value magic xp (i.e. wont max it through other methods) teaks > arctic with d axe > arctic with adze

Also teaks are best if you want to fletch while woodcutting.

[Obtaurian]

Ok thats it. I refuse to dg anymore. After attempting to key a floor 47 occult which I did pretty decent on, it all went downhill once we got thunderous. No one knew what the hell they were doing. I died 4 times and he just kept healing. I know how to kill him on solo I just cant do it with idiots who dont know what they are doing. So I was forced to quit and we never finished it. I did all that keying for a floor only to have it wasted. I am never going to dg again. I guess I'll just camp black demons for effigies to finish off 99. I actually cried and sobbed hard after this happened. Don't ask why, I got problems. At least I bought all the rewards I wanted from the trader.

 

You should really stop using 148. I was put off dungeoneering for a long, long time 'cause I couldn't stand 148.

[miracleman58]

DungScape and EffigyScape.

[xpx]

Oh, and i'd also appreatiate it if anyone could give me an accurate account of the fastest fishing and woodcutting methods in game without dungeoneering. The other xp you get while doing the best methods(as i'm fairly sure fishing will be barb fishing and woodcutting with adze) can be discounted against the best method for each skill(620k cooking xp an hour, 412k fming xp an hour and 95k agility xp an hour, strength is basically worthless but can be seen as around 1m xp an hour).

Fishing - barb with or without eating is best.

 

Woodcutting - Splitting arctic pines with d axe > splitting arctic pines with adze > teaks

Or if you value magic xp (i.e. wont max it through other methods) teaks > arctic with d axe > arctic with adze

Also teaks are best if you want to fletch while woodcutting.

The name of the methods without xp rates really doesn't do me any good...

[Thai_tong]

Pines with adze 130k/hr

pines with d axe 139k/hr

teaks 119k/hr

[dragon312]

Wouldn't using Strength amulet be better on some tasks? Especially ofcourse on the lower defense monsters, just wondering.

[miracleman58]

Wouldn't using Strength amulet be better on some tasks? Especially ofcourse on the lower defense monsters, just wondering.

 

Oh no here comes the 'Slayer Efficeny Thread' again :blink:

[Troll Bomber]

Wouldn't using Strength amulet be better on some tasks? Especially ofcourse on the lower defense monsters, just wondering.

 

Oh no here comes the 'Slayer Efficeny Thread' again :blink:

iirc fury is +8 str. All of fury's other bonuses > +2 str I'm sure

 

Even if it is +6 str, I still think the other bonuses such as prayer and attack outweigh the str.

[MstrMonopoly]

Wouldn't using Strength amulet be better on some tasks? Especially ofcourse on the lower defense monsters, just wondering.

 

Actually, yes. Grimy has the exact calculation somewhere.

[Bassy]

300 pages of discussion....Beautiful.... <3:

[Jebrim]

Pines with adze 130k/hr

pines with d axe 139k/hr

teaks 119k/hr

Why do you have teaks at that rate?

[Thai_tong]

100k + 19k from urns