200M in all Skills

[Vex]

Telegrabbing still takes a combat turn.

 

On tasks where you yield a high kill rate and have quite a few things to pickup, it could in theory be beneficial to use a slower, inferior weapon to actually yield more damage per hour. Since the rapier is only 4 ticks, it can be quite annoying to attack something > pick up item > reattack without actually losing any time. A CLS is slightly slower, & a maul slower still. However since the usual DPS/DPH figures would be Rapier > CLS > Maul, you'd have to work out # of attack turns you'd actually be missing using each weapon to determine whether one is better than the other.

 

I run into this problem a lot at crawlers as each time I order my Titan it interrupts an attack, however since I only pick up blue/crims/effigies there now and not green/gold it had boosted my Melee xp & thus kills considerably per hour. Also my kill rate was 300+ black demons before ashes update, now it's around 275 (off task) due to all the picking, yaking etc.

 

Anyway i've only started thinking about this since my playstyle toward combat has become a lot more proactive - mainly due to dungeoneering and learning how to use combat more effectively in there.

[Thai_tong]

Hmm so then you can't telegrab and attack the way you can eat/attack or bury bone/attack :(

I included xp from urns in the calc and now black demons need to be 104k/hr (not a big difference I know) for them to possibly be better than crawlers.

Also dark beasts would have to be 135k for them to possibly be better than crawlers.

EDIT: this is all without the slayer helm boost.

Rapier is used for the slayer xp rates that I got the kills/hr from.

[Viv]

Hmm so then you can't telegrab and attack the way you can eat/attack or bury bone/attack :(

I included xp from urns in the calc and now black demons need to be 104k/hr (not a big difference I know) for them to possibly be better than crawlers.

Also dark beasts would have to be 135k for them to possibly be better than crawlers.

EDIT: this is all without the slayer helm boost.

Rapier is used for the slayer xp rates that I got the kills/hr from.

darkbeast can reach 135k cuz i camped em a bit :P but that was meleeonly w/o cannon did them cuz i was bored of slay an hr

 

:P

 

blackdemons are so annoying if u dont urn tho

[Thai_tong]

How much above 135k did you get? and would it be lower if you did cannon

[Vex]

I can confirm Dark Beasts are max 135k melee xp per hour OFF task. (void)

 

Which is 150 Kills @ 2200 LP (4.1 xp per 10 lp).

[Thai_tong]

you get 2.5 xp per 10 lp :blink:

[Vex]

Melee xp? no you don't, the standard rate is 4xp per 10lp or (0.4 per 1lp), some monsters have more, ie dark beasts are 4.1 LRC is like 4.5 or something. Constitution is 1/3rd of melee xp gained.

[Thai_tong]

O right its damage/ 2.5 for the exp.

Then dark beasts could be very similar to crawlers but cheaper, that is if you were picking up charms when getting 135k. Maybe after a few skill updates devalueing effigy xp dark beasts could be better.

[Xensure]

Is S U O M I following any xensure's task list?

 

He mostly follows Vex's effigy slayer list that vex posted in his effigyscape thread, but sumoi also does other tasks that he "feels like doing." So those tasks are probably some combination of profit, effigies, and slayer points. He probably doesn't worry too much about charms since he will have a lot of melee xp left are 200m slayer.

 

Those task lists numbers were grossly inaccurate. The NPCs were correct for the most part with the maximum lists. But the optimal list was far off. I have made several changes to the model since then and have had some help from people over on Aasiwat's forums with the data. So far I have 103 of Viv's tasks and 198 of Elessar's task with no blocks, but this sample size is still too small to accurately predict the probability of assignment. My formulas for calculating the expected number of each NPC killed are solid, but the problem comes down to the data. Since I don't play, I can't test my self and that means I rely on others so the going is slow. As of now there isn't much I can do. I will edit the look of the model and make it user friendly so that people wondering about what tasks they want to do can play around with it, but the out put numbers will still be scaled quite far off until the probability of assignment becomes more accurate through larger samples.

 

I dont understand the no blocking why not still cancel just record the tasks u cancel it wouldnt be any different then doing the task then getting new 1 afterword to just figure out the frequency of getting tasks assigned or w/e just write down each slayer monster kuradel can assign u and write the number +1 everytime she assigns that task weather u cancel it or not so she assigns ice strykes put 1 next to it she assigns that again but a 2 next to it and erase the 1 regardless of if u do it or not

 

You can cancel tasks. You just can't have anything blocked or not unlocked through quests or points. This makes it so every one of the 30 tasks has the chance to be assigned. Now if you had a bunch of slayer points saved up you could get the frequencies by just cancelling every task assigned to you and recording the number times you were assigned each mob. There is no need to actually do the tasks to get the frequencies, you just can't have anything blocked.

 

However, I am pretty sure that no one would want to just waste their slayer points, so you could always do what Viv so graciously did for us, by only doing the tasks you want to and cancelling everything else. Record all of the tasks whether you do or cancel them and that will still get the frequencies just fine.

[Jebrim]

I heard that the cooking wines with brawlers got nerfed. Can anybody tell me what exactly was changed?

[Makaveli_93]

I heard that the cooking wines with brawlers got nerfed. Can anybody tell me what exactly was changed?

 

Probably the part where you could make wines in a non-wildy bank and go out for 0,5 seconds to get free xp. L.

[Thai_tong]

Probably counts 1 wine as 1 item cooked not 1000 at once being 1 item.

[Aylari]

Where is langer's update :((

[langer]

Update of the top 15

 

1. Allar (previously Skiller - Aasiwat) : 2,61B xp (+7M). Back from vacation at mid week, Allar came back slaying and farming once again. He's currently about 5 weeks away from celebrating one year at the top! Unless he stops gaining XP now, this is basically a done deal. . Coming milestones: 100M summoning

2. Jdelacroix : 2,49Bxp (+15M). Not much new once again, Jd is running steady like a clock. Still training dungeon, slayer, farming and thieving, he will reach the "halfway" mark next week with 2,5B xp. Also note that he has not used any slayer effigies in a long time... Coming milestones : 2,5B xp, 200M thieving and 200M dungeon (8th and 9th skill)

3. Telmomarques : 2,46B xp (+19M). Telmo reached 200M str last week for his 8th skill at 200M. He then moved on to hunter, a skill that used to be his lowest. I expect him to pass Jd in the next 1-2 months. Coming milestones : 100M ranged

4. Drumgun : 2,44B xp (+7M). Still gone fishing, Drumgun also trained some fletching last week. His reign as the king of 200M skills will be challenged in the next months, stay tuned!. Coming milestones : 200M WC and 200M fletch (10th and 11th skill)

5. Elvis : 2,39B xp (+16M). Still slaying and also training crafting, Elvis dumped a bunch of effigies last week. Even though he will be threatened by Elias in the coming weeks, he should eventually pass Drumgun to keep his rank 5. Coming milestones : 200M crafting (6th) and 2,4B xp

6. Zarfot 2,35B xp. Even though he has been inactive for almost 5 months, Zarfot still holds the highest "lowest" skill of the top 15 with 36M xp in fishing. For comparison, Kingduffy has 23M xp in construction, telmomarques has 20M agility, Elias has 19M xp in mining and Elvis has 21M xp in fishing. .

7. Elias : 2,32B xp (+48M). Definitely appearing for the first time on some people's radar, Elias is tearing through construction lately as well as some XP gains on herblore which helped him reach 2,3B xp. He will pass Zarfot for rank 6 next week most likely. Coming milestones : 100M attack, 100M construction and 100M herblore

8. Tezz : 2,21B xp (+35M). this guys is in 1rst gear since dungeoneering came out last year and is still amongst the biggest gainer of last week. He reached 2,2B xp training a mix of dungeon, fletching and FM last week. I don't know what kind of funds he has, but he still has some fast buyables left to train. Coming milestones : 100M ranged, 200M dungeon (8th skill) and 100M FM.

9. SU O M I : 2,19B xp (+34M). Did someone say casual slaying? I sure hope not! Suomi is going all out on slayer with effigies being used in that skill and it won't be long before he maxes another skill with Str then slayer. Expect him to hold rank 9 for the next several weeks because the competition is stiffer higher in ranks than lower at this point. Coming milestones : 100M Str and 2,2,B xp

10. Paperbag : 2,09B xp (+5M). Still mostly farming, Paperbag also trained some dungeon last week. I expect him to slowly get 99 dungeon before moving to another target. Coming milestones : 2,1B xp

11. Gertjaars : 2,02B xp. Inactive.

12. Kingduffy : 1,95B xp (+7M). Still mainly training dungeon, Kingduffy also trained a bunch of skills once again last week. Definitely one of the most consistent and casual player of the top 15, I expect him to pass some active players higher than him only because some of these players will eventually quit. Coming milestones : 100M WC and 100M dungeon

13. Lan : 1,87B xp. Inactive.

14. Green098 : 1,86B xp (+9M). Back to her usual slower pace, Green has gained a rank from inactive Erw J last week. Mostly training slayer and general combat, she will pass up Lan inside the next 2 weeks. Coming milestones : nothing in sight

15. Erw J : 1,85 xp. Inactive.

 

Skiller 703 should enter the top 15 late in the coming week or early in the next.

[jumper000]

Yeah cooking brawlers are nurfed. Now each wine is a use on the brawlers.

[Thingamajig]

Before, people were talking about how long would it take to max from level 1 everything.

 

According to a RWT site (I don't support this sort of idiotic practice, but I was bored and googled it, and I think it provides an interesting estimation of the time required to max), it would take 17655.38 hours of training and the time to make 1184.874M before doing anything

 

That is about 2 yrs and 5.15643458 days straight of playing, but I'm sure these sites don't do the optimal and most efficient methods. Such an account would apparently be worth a whopping $13888 on the black market.

 

[Pluckey]

Before people were talking about how long would it take to max from level 1 everything.

 

According to a RWT site (don't support this sort of idiotic practice, but I was bored and googled it):

 

 

It would take 17655.38 hours of training and the time to make 1184.874M before doing anything

 

That is about 2 yrs and 5.15643458 days straight of playing, but I'm sure these sites don't do the optimal and most efficient methods.

 

 

That's interesting lol.

[Shadiochao]

Before people were talking about how long would it take to max from level 1 everything.

 

According to a RWT site (don't support this sort of idiotic practice, but I was bored and googled it):

 

It would take 17655.38 hours of training and the time to make 1184.874M before doing anything

 

That is about 2 yrs and 5.15643458 days straight of playing, but I'm sure these sites don't do the optimal and most efficient methods.

 

 

That's interesting lol.

 

Fletching is only valued at 55k xp an hour, and it's the fastest one there =/

They're just overcharging people who don't know any better

[Viv]

Before people were talking about how long would it take to max from level 1 everything.

 

According to a RWT site (don't support this sort of idiotic practice, but I was bored and googled it):

 

It would take 17655.38 hours of training and the time to make 1184.874M before doing anything

 

That is about 2 yrs and 5.15643458 days straight of playing, but I'm sure these sites don't do the optimal and most efficient methods.

 

 

That's interesting lol.

 

Fletching is only valued at 55k xp an hour, and it's the fastest one there =/

They're just overcharging people who don't know any better

hahaha yea thats 735 days played and the avg high lvl forumer had 527 like a month ago.

[CBC]

We don't expect RWT sites to have integrity anyway.

 

Nicely done Langer! Find something to talk about Zarfot even he's been inactively for so long.

[langer]

Thank you Crusty, I've been impressed by Zarfot's skills breakdown since a long time and I wanted to show everyone how awesome it still is nearly 5 months after he retired.

[iamsomebody1]

If Gertjaars didn't quit like 2 years ago he would have like 3b+ xp now.....................

 

Same goes 4 Zezima

[deskjethp]

I just realized: 200m in all skills would mean you couldn't do tears of guthix anymore after the first week because of the 100k xp thing...(or until a new quest came out) though if you could, what would it do at the end?

 

Or would it count the unrecorded yet "gained" experience?

[langer]

If Gertjaars didn't quit like 2 years ago he would have like 3b+ xp now.....................

 

Same goes 4 Zezima

 

But they did... this train of thought is pointless. You can apply the same logic to anyone who did not play classic, in the end, people get the XP they played for.

[Jebrim]

Before, people were talking about how long would it take to max from level 1 everything.

 

According to a RWT site (I don't support this sort of idiotic practice, but I was bored and googled it, and I think it provides an interesting estimation of the time required to max), it would take 17655.38 hours of training and the time to make 1184.874M before doing anything

 

That is about 2 yrs and 5.15643458 days straight of playing, but I'm sure these sites don't do the optimal and most efficient methods. Such an account would apparently be worth a whopping $13888 on the black market.

 

They probably just use a bot and pretend they do it themselves lol. 600+ hours for Agility and 300+ hours for Construction? 2200+ hours for Slayer? Lol wtf is this [cabbage].