200M in all Skills

[Shadiochao]

thanks for the update langer. :) Tezz is beasting through slayer, it's really impressive to see those sort of consistent slayer gains. I'm still hoping SUOMI will be taking up slayer soon, i could picture him pulling 25m+ slayer months with the time spent logged in playing that he pulls.

 

Nice seeing Kingduffy training all skills, yay for well rounded players. :)

 

That is unlikely, since Tezz only really logs off to sleep

[langer]

Suomi currently has 1 combo effigy useless with mining and smithing. If he keeps on training WC, he'll add another one which will hurt him once he starts slaying. Telmomarques has 2 combo effigy skills maxed out, but those are fast skills meaning wasted XP in his case is less important time-wise.

[Zarfnot]

SUOMI is beasting teaks atm. After the 200m mage xp I can see him trying for a few more 99's.

[Aylarliez]

Suomi probably going to get 200M mage in this night :)

[Teamed]

He didn't gain any exp yet today, weird ?

[dangerouslysafekid]

Don't know if it's stated already but Phoenix Odin finally got 200M RC xp as the #2 was closing in at quite a high speed :thumbup:

In my opinion this is the most dedicated achievement in the whole game.

[OriginalKats]

Tezz has said he has his sights on rank 3 slayer so most likely he will continue to slay past 200m hp. His rates are quite impressive, but it's also a skill he's said to love so it'll be interesting what happens when he does other skills he doesn't like. I reckon he'll still power through them but you never know.

[zhowzurfer]

He didn't gain any exp yet today, weird ?

suomi is a kind of phenomenom. you actually get your exp only updated when you log out, he plays and at the end of the day he logs out, then you can wonder how he got 4 mil exp in 10 seconds. its just not updating as he stays online

[langer]

He didn't gain any exp yet today, weird ?

suomi is a kind of phenomenom. you actually get your exp only updated when you log out, he plays and at the end of the day he logs out, then you can wonder how he got 4 mil exp in 10 seconds. its just not updating as he stays online

 

There's also a 6 hour timer logout, meaning his XP is added at least every 6 hours. Unless I'm mistaken...

[Teamed]

He didn't gain any exp yet today, weird ?

suomi is a kind of phenomenom. you actually get your exp only updated when you log out, he plays and at the end of the day he logs out, then you can wonder how he got 4 mil exp in 10 seconds. its just not updating as he stays online

 

There's also a 6 hour timer logout, meaning his XP is added at least every 6 hours. Unless I'm mistaken...

 

That's why I was confused, and according to Runetrack top players always take little breaks.. i.e Telmomarques has 800k str exp gained and 2 hours later around 900k.. people normally do logout frequently, even suomi, looking at his normal days. Or he has a rest day :P

[Rawrsicles]

It'l be interesting to see telmomarques use all his effigies at once, i'm wondering how much he has by now. Even though I haven't checked his adventure log, i've seen that he has been doing slayer for the past couple of days and hasn't used any effigy. I'm going to make a random prediction and say when he uses it, he's going to get around 2-3m runecrafting xp.

[Elppa]

Just met S U O M I ingame right now. He said he plans to train Crafting after 200m mage.

[langer]

Just met S U O M I ingame right now. He said he plans to train Crafting after 200m mage.

 

That would be in line with what I've been told also. I see a race for the most skills at 200M coming soon with Drumgun, Telmomarques, Suomi, Paperbag and just maybe Jdelacroix. Early months of 2011 will be a nice tracking time.

[Xensure]

It'l be interesting to see telmomarques use all his effigies at once, i'm wondering how much he has by now. Even though I haven't checked his adventure log, i've seen that he has been doing slayer for the past couple of days and hasn't used any effigy. I'm going to make a random prediction and say when he uses it, he's going to get around 2-3m runecrafting xp.

 

He has already had a few times where he has used around 15-20 effigies. I remember seeing +700k RC, +1.3m RC, and +800k RC I think. He seems to save up around 20 effigies and then spends them all. I guess it is just easier to bank them when banking to switch tasks and then as to not waste too much bank space use like 20 of them.

 

However, Tezz probably has at least 250 banked and Shushidame has like 350. Toony001 has a bunch too.

[Blake]

Just met S U O M I ingame right now. He said he plans to train Crafting after 200m mage.

 

That would be in line with what I've been told also. I see a race for the most skills at 200M coming soon with Drumgun, Telmomarques, Suomi, Paperbag and just maybe Jdelacroix. Early months of 2011 will be a nice tracking time.

 

 

I saw paperbag today, and he was being a [bleep]. He was in someone else's house with an altar on W31, and closing the door so people couldn't get in. Here's the pic...

[z0diark]

 

 

I saw paperbag today, and he was being a [bleep]. He was in someone else's house with an altar on W31, and closing the door so people couldn't get in. Here's the pic...

 

Lmao, he was obviosuly just messing around, chill out. Even the guy in the screenie said 'lol win mod'.

[MightyMuddy]

It would still be really annoying...

[z0diark]

It would still be really annoying...

 

Perhaps, but is it really worthy of a post on this thread?

[Blake]

 

 

I saw paperbag today, and he was being a [bleep]. He was in someone else's house with an altar on W31, and closing the door so people couldn't get in. Here's the pic...

 

Lmao, he was obviosuly just messing around, chill out. Even the guy in the screenie said 'lol win mod'.

 

 

How did that post warrant a chill out? I wasn't mad :roll:

[Xensure]

I did yet again more calculations to shed more light on the most efficient use of the effigies you would get from maxing 200m cmb with 3 different methods. All of the math is laid out under the spoilers along with a total in bold for each method.

 

[spoiler=Slayer with effigies used on RC, then Cave Crawlers to max cmb]

185m slayer xp = 185m damage points

Assuming 45k slayer xp/hr; 185m/45k = 4111 hours for 15m-200m slayer

Assuming 1:1 range to slayer ratio

then 185m range xp means 92.5m damage points from range

Therefore 185m-92.5m = 92.5m damage points to be spread across melee.

since you get 4xp per damage point 4*92.5m = 370m xp for attk/str/def from 15-200m slayer

That would provide 15-200m attack and 15-200m defense.

Assuming around 17m stength xp is gained from 15-200m fishing, and 14m is gained from 200m dungeoneering

185-17-14 = 154m strength xp left to gain after slayer.

The 185m slayer xp would also yield around 317,844 Crimson charms and 56,417 Blue charms

 

Assuming you get an effigy on average every 100k slayer xp,

185m/100k = 1850 effigies from 15m-200m slayer

1850*90k = 166,500,000 xp from investigating

166500000/8 = 20,812,500 xp per effigy skill

1850*48029 = 88,853,650 xp from lamps

(90k+48029)*1850 = 255,353,650 xp total from effigies

 

Using this method to finish out cmb: Video

Assuming 65min/effigy that is 0.9231 effigies per hour

154m/80k = 1925 hours

.9231*1925 = 1777 effigies

1777*90k = 159,930,000 xp from investigating

159930000/8 = 19,991,250 xp per effigy skill

1777*48029 = 85,347,533 xp from lamps

(90k+48029)*1777 = 170,695,066 xp total from effigies

 

185m-20812500-19991250 = 145,017,500 xp to max RC

145017500/48029 = 3019 lamps to max RC with out wasting investigating xp from the rest of the: (1777+1850)-3019 = 608 effigies

608*48029 = 29,201,632 Agility xp from the rest of the lamps

 

Assuming you kill 700 cave crawlers and hour

1925*700 = 1,347,500 crawlers killed

Assuming a drop table of 60% none, 25% green, 10% Gold, 5% Crimson, 1% Blue

Green = 336,875 Gold = 134,750 Crimson = 67,375 Blue = 13,475 From the 1.3m cave crawlers

 

To get 200m summoning you will need to use all 69,892 Blues and 299,313 of the Crimsons

69892+299313 = 329,205 total chrams to run

329205/3k = 123 hours for 15m-200m summoning

 

So in total this would get you: 426,048,716 xp in skills, 555m melee xp, 185m ranged xp, 185m summoning xp, 185m HP xp, 185m slayer xp (1,721,048,716 xp total) in 4111+1925+123 = 6159 hour; 279,436 xp/hr

 

Assuming 15m in all skills to start this would get you to:

200m attack, defense, strength, ranged, HP, slayer, and RC; 84.8m Agility, and 55.8m in the 6 other effigy skills

 

@ a cost of:

Assuming 5.4k cannon balls per hour and Slayer is break-even.

1925*5400 = 10.4m Cannon balls

Plus Prayer Potions and Chaotic weapon recharges

 

 

[spoiler=Slayer with effigies on slayer, then Cave Crawlers to max cmb]let x equal the total amount of slayer xp needed to be gained to get 200m with effigies:

x+(x/100k)(48029)=185m

x = 124,975,512 slayer xp

Assuming 45k xp/hr, 124975512/45k = 2777 hours for 15m-200m slayer with effigies

at a 1:1 range to slayer ratio half of those damage points will be cannoned/titan and half will be melee.

124,975,512/2 = 62,487,756 damage points from range and the same from melee.

62,487,756*4 = 249,951,024 xp to be spread across melee.

Assuming you have 15m in all stats to start:

This means that 15m-200m slayer will get you to about 200m attack, 80m defence, 140m range, and 177m hp

The 124,975,512 slayer xp would also yield around 188,946 crimson charms and 33,538 blue charms

 

Assuming an effigy ever 100k slayer xp

124975512/100k = 1250

1250*90k = 112,500,000 xp from investigating

112500000/8 = 14,062,500 xp per effigy skill

48029*1250 = 60,036,250 xp from lamps

(90k+48029)*1250 = 123,072,500 xp total from effigies

 

154m+120m = 274m melee xp left to gain after 15m-200m slayer if effigies are used on slayer

274m/80k = 3425 hours at cave crawlers till 200m cmb

3425*.9231 = 3161 effigies

90k*3161 = 284,490,000 xp from investigating.

284490000/8 = 35,561,250 xp per effigy skill

48029*3161 = 151,819,669 xp from the lamps

(90k+48029)*3161 = 436,309,669 total xp from effigies

 

185m-14062500-35561250 = 135,376,250 xp to be gained from lamps to max a skill that can be investigated. ie. RC

135376250/48209 = 2818 lamps needed to max RC and not waste investigating xp from the rest of the: (1250+3161)-2818 = 1593 effigies

1593*48029 = 76,510,197 Agility xp from the rest of the lamps

 

Assuming you kill 700 cave crawlers an hour

3425*700 = 2,397,500 crawlers killed

Assuming a drop table of 60% none, 25% green, 10% Gold, 5% Crimson, 1% Blue, you would get:

Green = 599,375 Gold = 239,750 Crimson = 119,875 Blue = 23,975 from the 2.3m cave crawlers

 

To get 200m summoning you will need to use all 57,513 Blues, 308,821 Crimsons, and 35,991 Greens

308821+57513+35991 = 402,325 total charms to run

402325/3k = 134 hours for 15m-200m summoning

 

So in total this would get you: 559,382,169 skill xp, 555m melee xp, 185m slayer xp, 185m ranged xp, 185m summoning xp, 185m hp xp (1,854,382,169 xp total) in 2777+3425+134 = 6336 hours; 292,535 xp/hr

 

Assuming 15m in each skill to start, this would get you to:

200m attack, defense, strength, Ranged, HP, summoning, RC, and Slayer; 141m Agility, and 64.5m in all 6 of the other effigy skills.

 

@ a cost of:

Assuming 5.4k cannon balls per hour and slayer is break-even

3425*5400 = 18.5m Cannon balls

Plus Prayer Potions and Chaotic weapon recharges

 

 

[spoiler=Cave Cralwers for all of Melee]185m*3 = 555m total melee xp to be gained.

555m/80k = 6938 hours to max melee.

6938*.9231 = 6,404 effigies.

90k*6404 = 576,360,000 total xp gained in the 8 effigy skills

576360000/8 = 72,045,000 per effigy skill

48029*6404 = 307,577,716 total xp in the lamp skills

(90k+48209)*6404 = 883,937,716 total xp from all effigies

185m-72045000 = 112,955,000 xp to be gained from lamps to max a skill that can be investigated. ie. RC

112955000/48029 = 2352 effigies needed to max a skill (RC) and not waste the investigating xp from the rest of the: 6404-2352 = 4052 effiges.

185m/48029 = 3831 effigies to max (slayer), a non-investigatable skill.

4052-3831 = 221 effigies left over after 200m RC and 200m Slayer (The two slowest skills currently)

221*48029 = 10,614,409 Agility xp from the rest of the lamps.

 

Assuming you kill 700 cave crawlers an hour

6938*700 = 4,856,600 crawlers killed

Assuming a drop table of 60% none, 25% green, 10% Gold, 5% Crimson, 1% Blue, you would get:

Green = 1,214,150 Gold = 485,660 Crimson = 242,830 Blue = 48,566 From the 4.8m cave crawlers

 

To get 200m summoning from those charms you will need to use all of the blue, crimson, and 267,381 Greens.

48566+242830+267381 = 558,777 charms needed to be run

Assuming 3k pouches/hr

558777/3k = 186 hours for 15m-200m summoning

 

So in total you would gain: 883,937,716 skill xp, 555m melee xp, 185m ranged xp, 185m hp xp, and 185m summoning xp (1,993,937,716 xp total) in 6938+186 = 7124 hours; 279,890 xp/hr

 

Assuming 15m in each skill to start this would get you to:

200m attack, defense, strength, ranged, HP, summoning, RC, and Slayer; 107.6m Agility, and 97m in all 6 of the other effigy skills.

 

@ a cost of:

Assuming 5.4k cannon balls per hour

6938*5400 = 37.5m cannon balls

Plus prayer potions and Chaotic weapon recharges

 

 

Conclusion:

It appears that doing slayer and using the effigies on slayer then finishing out cmb at cave crawlers is the best method to use. It is the fastest xp/h and would save you more money than doing cave crawlers all the way.

 

Important Assumption:

This model assumes that the player has infinite money. I did not take in to account cost in my conclusion, but I did list approximately how many cballs it would take for the all of the cave crawlers for each method. I also did not calculate how many shards and seconds you would need for each method to get 200m summoning, but that isn't a real concern of this model.

 

So... Comment? Criticisms? Shut the [bleep] up no one will ever use either of the two second options even though they are more efficient?

[Squisher_33]

good data, but i couldnt kill 1.3 million cave crawlers or whatever

 

maybe with differant effigy method i coudl stand it

 

tds, miths, bloodvleds, blk demons, and blk drags are fairly good effigys

 

maybe when addy drags come out theyll be fastest effigys (assuming addy dragons follow pattern and are 350-400ish range, and assuming you can kill an addy dragon ~60% as fast as a mith, then they would be faster than mith)

 

i think since caves rely heavily on cannon, that eventualy once lvl 90 weapons come out that something like tds or miths would be the faster method, or perhaps new bosses will drop effigys at a very nice rate

[Shadiochao]

It'l be interesting to see telmomarques use all his effigies at once, i'm wondering how much he has by now. Even though I haven't checked his adventure log, i've seen that he has been doing slayer for the past couple of days and hasn't used any effigy. I'm going to make a random prediction and say when he uses it, he's going to get around 2-3m runecrafting xp.

 

He has already had a few times where he has used around 15-20 effigies. I remember seeing +700k RC, +1.3m RC, and +800k RC I think. He seems to save up around 20 effigies and then spends them all. I guess it is just easier to bank them when banking to switch tasks and then as to not waste too much bank space use like 20 of them.

 

However, Tezz probably has at least 250 banked and Shushidame has like 350. Toony001 has a bunch too.

 

Tezz will use his in like a week when he reaches 250

He has 236 now

 

Dunno if he'll save up again after that

[langer]

Elvis has reached 200M dungeon for his 5th skill at 200M.

 

Suomi should reach 200M magic later tonight for his 7th skill at 200M.

[ghjkl]

Jdela will get 120 dg tomorrow I think

[Squisher_33]

Jdela will get 120 dg tomorrow I think

 

remember how i said jd will be #1 by end of year no matter what? i dont get it but for some reason people didnt believe me

 

was kinda obvious telmo had no chance