200M in all Skills

[FaithNoMore]

Lol i was in a few of the top 15 chats today and so many people were confused as to who Finallyontop was or where he came from. (Or though some people have said hes a girl, someone correct me if i'm wrong)

[Teamed]

Lol i was in a few of the top 15 chats today and so many people were confused as to who Finallyontop was or where he came from. (Or though some people have said hes a girl, someone correct me if i'm wrong)

 

He's male, and he's from the Netherlands afailk.

[alevel3nub]

Lol i was in a few of the top 15 chats today and so many people were confused as to who Finallyontop was or where he came from. (Or though some people have said hes a girl, someone correct me if i'm wrong)

 

He's male, and he's from the Netherlands afailk.

 

He is male, iirc Aasiwat confirmed it somewhere in this thread talking about RuneFest

Cant remember 100% if it was Aasiwat but he is the only name in my head atm

[Viv]

Lol i was in a few of the top 15 chats today and so many people were confused as to who Finallyontop was or where he came from. (Or though some people have said hes a girl, someone correct me if i'm wrong)

 

He's male, and he's from the Netherlands afailk.

 

He is male, iirc Aasiwat confirmed it somewhere in this thread talking about RuneFest

Cant remember 100% if it was Aasiwat but he is the only name in my head atm

male and yah thatsthe number 1 question that gets asked in his cc "how did this dude get 200m exp in one day??"

peopl dont understand that highscores is based on total lvl lol

[Xensure]

Eh, not including levelling to 99, by the time you do barbarian fishing & hunting black warlocks(or would you do jadinkos now?) to close to 200m, how much passive agility xp would you earn? That's without the ~1800-1900 Effigies you could expect on the way to 200m Slayer. (Just opening them not using lamps)

 

You could technically speed up Agility as well by hiring a pro BA team so much per horn assuming you get it in X hours that makes it worth paying for, which would bump the average xp/hr up. The BA team still get to charge their horn, but can carry someone else for gold.

 

Few more possibilities I guess.

 

Well if you earn around 17m strength from 185m barb fishing, you should get around 17m agility too. As for Hunter 185m/625 = 296k warlocks caught. 296k*125 = 37m agility xp. So you would get a total of around 54m agility xp passively, so if you were use my method 2 of using effigies on slayer then cave cralwers you would get to 196m agility xp after you finished flishing and hunter, so you would really only have to actually train agility for around 4m xp. Welcome to effigyscape, gf slayer, rc, and agility.

[zhowzurfer]

Technically, fewer donations; just far more cash in each trade.

 

i guess when his friends/supporters who are pretty much merchers and most of them are quite rich donate 100m each per month he can do the most expensive methods easily, i mean he wont care even if its blood money ;-)

[xpx]

Technically, fewer donations; just far more cash in each trade.

 

i guess when his friends/supporters who are pretty much merchers and most of them are quite rich donate 100m each per month he can do the most expensive methods easily, i mean he wont care even if its blood money ;-)

Well, i think you could categorize a top player dungeoneering with a great keyer a similar unfair advantage, but on a smaller scale. Having friends means something too, particularly on a multiplayer online game.

[FaithNoMore]

Hmm.. what did toony use his effigies on? Because you'd expect a lot of his effigy skills to be higher, or has he not used them?

[miracleman58]

Hmm.. what did toony use his effigies on? Because you'd expect a lot of his effigy skills to be higher, or has he not used them?

 

He was already at like 170M exp before they were released? Someone will probably be able to give you an actual figure on this thread :shades:

[Vex]

Hmm.. what did toony use his effigies on? Because you'd expect a lot of his effigy skills to be higher, or has he not used them?

 

He was already at like 170M exp before they were released? Someone will probably be able to give you an actual figure on this thread :shades:

 

Effigies release June 10th 2010

 

Toony's XP via Runetrack history on June 10th 2010

 

166,414,807

 

~34m worth of effigies - depending on his block land cancel list at the time (since rough rates weren't known for a little while).

 

Even if ~30m xp were used under the now accepted highest effigy/hr & slayer xp/hr list, which is ~100k slayer xp. That's 300 effigies max.

 

Looking at the change in all skills between June 10th and now. Unless he +5 stewed most of his skills there aren't enough to open them all properly & spent the lamps on slayer (meaning he'd get less effigies due to last tasks for xp etc.)

 

So unless someone knows him personally and if he's used any, which doesn't look like it.

[Magbill]

If free trade was implemented, would getting people to run essence for you be a viable option for 200m?

[Obtaurian]

If free trade was implemented, would getting people to run essence for you be a viable option for 200m?

 

I would bet money that at least some of the top players will try to organize runners.

[Xensure]

If free trade was implemented, would getting people to run essence for you be a viable option for 200m?

 

I would bet money that at least some of the top players will try to organize runners.

 

And if they didn't want to deal with hiring runners, they could always just do nats for ess and make a forum post, you would get tons of noobs to run for you.

[deskjethp]

If free trade never would have been taken out, this would be done on world 66 with laws. (hopefully it will be again...)

 

Maybe that sort of thing will happen? No need for personal runners necessarily... That's how people got 99 back in the day, why not 200m? (blah blah effiigies blah blah)

[Jebrim]

I would assume a business of sorts would evolve, similar to FFDN, but at ZMI. Look at Larryr and what she did.

 

 

Btw, for those claiming a big advantage off BA, I have yet to actually see anyone train Agility long-term with a pro BA team. The closest I've seen is Fredmcgarry, although I'm not sure what his Xp/hr was and he only did it for a week or so. Filling a horn in 5 hours may be possible, but to have a team capable of doing that on a regular, near daily basis for a very long time isn't really something that will feasibly work, particularly with varying schedules. Plus I've heard issues of some recent changes to certain BA classes that cause filling a horn to take an additional couple of hours to complete now. I'm not sure specifically what those changes were or if they were "fixed". As far as I can determine, there's really little hope of establishing a long-term efficient method of really fast BA Agility training. 90k Xp/hr is not possible in the long-term, but only as a possible lucky moment if you get a good team. Even then, I'm not even sure it's still possible. The next best possible effigy skill, Fishing(with Str/Cook/Agil Xp mixed in), doesn't even really come close as an alternative option. The Fishing Xp/hr alone would be roughly around 90k if done properly without alternating between series of Cooking/Eating but doing both at once(as shown in the video on FiremakePro's channel). The Xp in other skills only adds incentive against using effigies on Fishing. Mining could be considered another contender, but once again the Xp gained from other skills, in this case nearly enough to max out those other skills as well, wouldn't be something that should be wasted with effigies.

[xpx]

Jebrim, you don't have to train it all the time, you can fill the horn and empty it, and then wait for others to have completed theirs while you do other things. The goal is 200m in all skills, not 1b agility.

[Obtaurian]

I would assume a business of sorts would evolve, similar to FFDN, but at ZMI. Look at Larryr and what she did.

 

 

Btw, for those claiming a big advantage off BA, I have yet to actually see anyone train Agility long-term with a pro BA team. The closest I've seen is Fredmcgarry, although I'm not sure what his Xp/hr was and he only did it for a week or so. Filling a horn in 5 hours may be possible, but to have a team capable of doing that on a regular, near daily basis for a very long time isn't really something that will feasibly work, particularly with varying schedules. Plus I've heard issues of some recent changes to certain BA classes that cause filling a horn to take an additional couple of hours to complete now. I'm not sure specifically what those changes were or if they were "fixed". As far as I can determine, there's really little hope of establishing a long-term efficient method of really fast BA Agility training. 90k Xp/hr is not possible in the long-term, but only as a possible lucky moment if you get a good team. Even then, I'm not even sure it's still possible. The next best possible effigy skill, Fishing(with Str/Cook/Agil Xp mixed in), doesn't even really come close as an alternative option. The Fishing Xp/hr alone would be roughly around 90k if done properly without alternating between series of Cooking/Eating but doing both at once(as shown in the video on FiremakePro's channel). The Xp in other skills only adds incentive against using effigies on Fishing. Mining could be considered another contender, but once again the Xp gained from other skills, in this case nearly enough to max out those other skills as well, wouldn't be something that should be wasted with effigies.

 

Takes less than a minute (usually instant) to find a pro BA team on world 6 if you have full penance. Even if it's not the optimal way to fill the horn, it's still faster than normal agility training. There are also BA clans (like BAA) that have members who specialize in horn-filling. BA is the way to go.

[Aylarliez]

Like jebrim said, suomi keep changing his plans. At this moment he is training rc at zmi altar, going to get 97 rc so he can open his effigies and start gaining money for prayer/cons 200M.

 

Edit: Xensure, Whoever told suomi has only 500M, he is misleading you. He don't have huge ammounts, but more than 500M

 

Edit2: Could someone give me any directional information about xp rates @ zmi? Whats max xp rate? How much level effects in xp? Any links for videos?

[tuggernongy]

@Aylarliez Max ZMI pace is around 69k, a few K lower is more realistic though.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjd1NpBg6h0

 

Lan used to run a BA channel on IRC back in the day, though i'm not sure how much of his FM / Agil he did after horns came out.

[Viv]

honestly im thinking of using effigies on agility >.>

 

its sooo boringggg

[Xensure]

honestly im thinking of using effigies on agility >.>

 

its sooo boringggg

 

Well when free trade goes through with and you see your self as a person who would use runners. There is no reason not to from an efficiency stand point. Agility will become the slowest skill if you don't plan on using BA horns. Agility will take the place of RC in my model.

[EpicWin]

honestly im thinking of using effigies on agility >.>

 

its sooo boringggg

 

Well when free trade goes through with and you see your self as a person who would use runners. There is no reason not to from an efficiency stand point. Agility will become the slowest skill if you don't plan on using BA horns. Agility will take the place of RC in my model.

Slayer still isn't 70K consistently + Slayer even now is still the slowest, if you count the average exp/h from tasks.

[Quasar]

How fast was FFL?

[Xensure]

honestly im thinking of using effigies on agility >.>

 

its sooo boringggg

 

Well when free trade goes through with and you see your self as a person who would use runners. There is no reason not to from an efficiency stand point. Agility will become the slowest skill if you don't plan on using BA horns. Agility will take the place of RC in my model.

Slayer still isn't 70K consistently + Slayer even now is still the slowest, if you count the average exp/h from tasks.

 

Well I already addressed this by saying "My model" If you read back a few pages I made a post claiming, with quite a bit of math to back it up, that using the effigies you get from slayer on slayer, then cannoning cave crawlers to max cmb is the most efficient method of getting 200m in all skills. Although I know most people, probably not even pros, will not cannon cave crawlers after maxing slayer because well it is pretty boring and extremely expensive, but how ever you plan maxing cmb after 200m slayer to remain efficient you would then use all of those effigies on now RC, but presumably Agility after the free trade update. Many people think it is optimal to use the effigies gained from slayer on RC, but it is not unless you plan on maxing cmb at non effigy dropping npc. But if you plan maxing cmb tby cannoning cave crawlers, black demons, black dragons, or killing TDs, the zammy general, really any decent effigy dropping NPC it would be optimal to use those effigies on RC or Agility depending on which ever is slower upon the release of free trade. Most likely agility will be slower if you are willing to turn RC in to either a buyable by hiring runners at ZMI or a breakeven by doing laws for ess.

[pulli23]

@Aylarliez Max ZMI pace is around 69k, a few K lower is more realistic though.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjd1NpBg6h0

 

Lan used to run a BA channel on IRC back in the day, though i'm not sure how much of his FM / Agil he did after horns came out.

I gained -slightly above- 60K average at lvl 90-91