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A game is no more than a time waster, what does it matter whether it requires "skill". You think that will help your career? make you go further in life?

 

No.

 

 

A game is no more than a time waster, what does it matter whether it requires "skill". You think that will help your career? make you go further in life?

 

No.

 

 

 

Shall i continue? You can use your post, swap around a few words and turn it into any game you want.[/hide]

 

A career is no more than a time waster, what does it matter whether you 'make alot of money'.You think that will help you when you die? make you go further in your after-life (if you believe in it.)?

 

No.

 

 

 

Shall i continue? You can use your post, swap around a few words and turn it into anything you want.

 

 

 

and FYI, I am just trying to prove a point, I believe the whole reason of life is to enjoy it how ever you want, be it a drug addict, a hard worker, a gamer, a 'person-with-a-life', a 'person-without-a-life', etc. As long as you enjoy what ever you do. If you want to be social; then quit. if you don't then just continue playing.

 

What the [bleep] are you talking about?

 

 

 

I was trying to prove a point, that a game is simply a game... and in a shortend version of your arguement "a life is just a life"

 

 

 

Get a job, make some money, so you prolong death.

 

 

 

In your logic you may as well just off yourself right now. What's the point? Do you think living any longer will help you when you die? or in your after life?

[Suiku]

I think we all are aware this game is about grinding and getting levels.

 

 

 

The reason people keep playing, I think, it's that when you are new on the game, you see higher levels, and powerful armor and you say "I'm gonna get that someday". Turns out it wasn't as easy as one thought when one starts the game, but we do it anyway, because we want to reach our goals, locked forever on the game to earn sick amounts of money/XP.

 

 

 

If someone told us at the start that we were going to be countless hours doing repetitive actions just to get a piece of armor, then most of us wouldn't been playing now.

[Bloodstain]

So you have 930 posts on a Runescape fansite why?

 

Most of them are in the Off-Topic section. I did, however, used to play RuneScape, and quit because of the aforementioned reasons.

 

 

 

 

You're a troll there too

[Cpchris]

yeah a lot of people know this. It's a form of entertainment. As with anything else, some people will like it others wont. Keeping it in a generalized form, its just as equal to anything else being a way to entertain someone.

 

 

 

In the end, what does any of it matter? who cares if one game takes real skill and another doesnt? None of it truly gets you anywhere. After you die, what value does it have? As with anything else you do in life. No one truly knows what happens when you die (you could even say religion is just an adaption type thing to keep humans motivated and do what we're "supposed" to do, whatever that is), so does it really matter if one game takes skill and another doesn't?

 

 

 

Not to be depressing, but my point is that some basic argument you are trying to make can go on to a much larger scale that takes forever to find an end to it, and in the end can basically end with ideas that humans just weren't meant to comprehend and can't understand.

 

 

 

so whats it matter if CoD takes skill and rs doesnt?

[TheXxzlx2]

And thats why I love runescape. It takes no skill. I, personally, suck at gaming. Its nice to have a game that I can be good at. ;)

 

 

 

+1

 

 

 

Yup, I usually suck at games. :

 

 

 

If someone told us at the start that we were going to be countless hours doing repetitive actions just to get a piece of armor, then most of us wouldn't been playing now.

 

 

 

So true. :cry:

[Omali]

If someone told us at the start that we were going to be countless hours doing repetitive actions just to get a piece of armor, then most of us wouldn't been playing now.

 

 

 

I knew.

 

 

 

Unless Runescape was your first MMO, you should be well acquainted with the expectation of a long grind.

[zotto]

A lot of the skill in runescape comes in the form of the more cerebral forms of skill found in organizing and planning.

 

 

 

But there are also more immediate forms of skills such as needed for PKing or bosshunting.

 

 

 

I can tell you that I read a guide on doing bandos. I checked my stats were well within the comfortable range, I was wearing the proper equipment and inventory.

 

 

 

I go there and can't manage to kill him once. I have to teleport out in the end. I was lacking the skill needed to kill him. Simply clicking wasn't enough. I needed to hone my skills first.

 

 

 

In conclusion, I like runescape because of its specific set of skills required. And in this respect you can go quite deep with runescape if you want to.

[Robert_de_Sable]

The only person here with an argument that I see as valid was mtomali. Long time no speak, by the way :P

 

And he completely and utterly totalled my argument. I concede this debate to him.

 

 

 

The only thing I disagree with in what most of you said was that Halo-- and here I use a euphemism for most shooting games-- is comparable in terms of pointing and clicking. It really isn't. The amount of reflexes and skill involved in games like that is simply astounding.

[Suiku]

The only person here with an argument that I see as valid was mtomali.

 

 

 

Next time PM him to ask questions then and stop wasting our times.

[Veryhyper]

The only person here with an argument that I see as valid was mtomali. Long time no speak, by the way :P

 

And he completely and utterly totalled my argument. I concede this debate to him.

 

 

 

The only thing I disagree with in what most of you said was that Halo-- and here I use a euphemism for most shooting games-- is comparable in terms of pointing and clicking. It really isn't. The amount of reflexes and skill involved in games like that is simply astounding.

 

 

 

If they aren't comparable why do you do so in your topic post? Btw the way reflexes and skill come with time the same way RS skills do. It's just that RS gives a numeric value to individual skills while Halo outputs it through different ranked playlists and military rank.

[rangeor]

The only person here with an argument that I see as valid was mtomali.

 

 

 

Next time PM him to ask questions then and stop wasting our times.

 

Some of us aren't exactly great at debating and actually like to read debates like this.

[Me_Hate_Libs]

Runescape requires much less skill. Less perfect timing, tell hand-eye reflexes, less planning, etc. It does require better skill when it comes to long term planning and actions.

[kingbrooks]

Flame me if you want, but what skill does CoD have? You press the trigger, hold down L3 a few times and press R1 every now and then. Pking means you have to click certain things at the right time.

 

 

 

 

 

I can see why you may think that Pking and other parts of runescape take no skill, because if you step back and look all your doing is clicking and typing. But it's more specific than that, you have to see what we're clicking and what timing.

 

 

 

This also applies for power training skills. Look at any of Zarfot's skilling videos and tell me it doesn't take any talent to do that.

[Danqazmlp]

The question wether RS takes skill or not is a tough one. Mainly because rs is so diverse, alot of things do, like pking, minigames, speed training and things like that, but then the more relaxed parts don't, such as Wc'ing for example.

 

 

 

I'm ok for this to stay open as long as the topic steers towards rs taking skill or not, and away from any flame.

[Kiriyama]

Flame me if you want, but what skill does CoD have? You press the trigger, hold down L3 a few times and press R1 every now and then. Pking means you have to click certain things at the right time.

 

 

 

Let's see...

 

 

 

In CoD4, well, let's take what I normally do, Sniping.

 

 

 

Often, I have a small target to aim at, it may even be just the smallest portion of their head sticking out, and then I have to make sure I line it up right, and shoot the guy before he can get me.

 

 

 

But before that I have to find somewhere that gives me a good view of the map, lay claymores in places where I can hear them trip, while making sure they are barely noticeable. I then have to make sure my spot gives me a significant amount of protection.

 

 

 

So don't talk about FPS games as not taking any skill at all, they require a lot more skill than RS.

[Punitive_D]

So my point is that RuneScape doesn't take skill to play, and at its core is really just a boring version of tiresome medieval chores.

 

 

 

You make one fundamental point that is true, but uninteresting. Very little in Runescape takes any skill. It is primarily a time sink. Everyone knows this. And this is not unusual. Lots of diversions have this character. Millions of people pass their time by playing solitaire. Runescape is like solitaire, only better. The various facebook games are a lot like this, too.

 

 

 

But while you make one somewhat accurate point, you are also fundamentally wrong in at least two ways. First, some aspects of Runescape require skill. Pking is one. Merchanting is another. Some of the minigames involve strategy. So while you are right that most of runescape involves putting in time without regard to skill, you're not entirely correct about that.

 

 

 

Your second fundamental error is in saying that Runescape is "just a boring version of tiresome medieval chores." While it is true that some aspects of Runescape can be boring, for the most part, it is not. That is why millions of people pay to play it. Jagex has made Runescape interesting to look at. Random drops provide an element of interest. Player interaction lessens the boredom factor. Quests are anything but boring. In short, Runescape is not (at least not necessarily) boring. The truth is that Runescape is an entertaining way to pass time without the need to learn a difficult new skill. Are there more fulfilling ways for humans to pass our short days on this earth? Probably. But that sort of argument applies to other activities in which we invest untold hours, e.g., television, solitaire, etc. People need "down" time, and they find ways to get it. Runescape is a good one.

[Thorstian]

I'm not going to get into this debate about how certain games take more skill than others, however I will share my reasoning for playing Runescape.

 

 

 

I personally love the fact that it takes little skill in this game (well for the most part of it anyway) It's this "lack" of skill in the game that suites well for me and my life style. I can watch a movie, read a book, post in this thread, or even do something useful like my A2 Geography assignment. All while playing runescape, happily fishing away.

 

 

 

This game is perfect for me, and whenever I want to do something more with it, I can. I can go questing, I can meet friends, I can spend the money I earned from fishing to buy gear and go raise my slayer levels.

 

Obviously I appreciate not everyone is able operate the same way I do when it comes to Runescape, I mean, I am only able to play this way efficiently because of my rather large monitor/resolution.

 

So, I have thought about it, and yes, Runescape doesn't have the skill other games have, such as say, COD, or whatever game you want to name. However, if I think about it a bit more, I am probably learning more than you anyway.

 

 

 

Based on your first post (and may I say, a poor one at that) When you play 2 hours of COD, and I play my 2 hours of Runescape, I could have ended up with some grade A work, while you would of what? wasted some time?

 

You see, It's because of this "lack" of skill in the game that I am able to focus more on other "important" things.

 

 

 

For the record, a game shouldn't be measured on how much skill is involved, but rather on how much enjoyment it gives you. You've made it clear that you're a skill junkie, so please, go play your COD, just don't bother preaching to us with your "wake up and see it".

[Cpchris]

First of all, its stupid of you to lump the word "skill" into a very narrow-minded meaning. Skill is a diverse word that can take many forms. For you to say Runescape takes no skill but CoD does just shows the lack of mental capacity you have.

 

 

 

True, you don't and basically can't dodge enemy attacks in runescape, but there are other skills involved.

 

 

 

When I'm fighting hill giants, do you know how incredible your reflexes have to be the first out of 5 other people waiting to attack the next one to spawn? You can't wait 10 seconds, click, and get to fight him. So to say runescape lacks even reflexes show how incredibly dull minded you are.

[kingbrooks]

Flame me if you want, but what skill does CoD have? You press the trigger, hold down L3 a few times and press R1 every now and then. Pking means you have to click certain things at the right time.

 

 

 

Let's see...

 

 

 

In CoD4, well, let's take what I normally do, Sniping.

 

 

 

Often, I have a small target to aim at, it may even be just the smallest portion of their head sticking out, and then I have to make sure I line it up right, and shoot the guy before he can get me.

 

 

 

But before that I have to find somewhere that gives me a good view of the map, lay claymores in places where I can hear them trip, while making sure they are barely noticeable. I then have to make sure my spot gives me a significant amount of protection.

 

 

 

 

 

So don't talk about FPS games as not taking any skill at all, they require a lot more skill than RS.

 

 

 

Yes but these games have different ways of requiring skill, and as does runescape. Whilst you have to listen for claymores on Cod, we have to eat at certain times. Whilst you have to find a good spot on the map, we have to swap weapons perfectly so the enemy don't expect you to hit them with a godsword, but rather with a whip.

[arrowsdeath]

what most people don't understand are GOALS that's what runescape-and 99% of other games, are.

 

 

 

take a completely unrelated game, call of duty 4. most people would say this game requires some skill, and it does. but what do people do in it, they try to get camos for there guns, beat there old kill streaks and do well in matches, these are all GOALS, benchmarks that people set themselves in order to do more goals later on, that's all it is and all most games (and most sports, pastimes and jobs) are, live with it.

[Imcleith]

Runescape takes no skill?

 

I can follow a clicking pattern with no mistakes for 5 hours while fully understanding 2 movies that are not even in my natal language, how many non-runescapers can say that?

[justcallmedaddy]

Halo is more skill then COD.

[Technologic]

Efficient training requires skill.

[Star_Fox]

its a freakin computer game, dude.

[dragon246665]

Oh my, yet another thread saying that runescape is a waste of time. I think this merits a ribbon of insignificance.