Think about it...

[deathdrow]

Why don't you go back into your cave troll.

 

+1

 

People can do what they want if they enjoy it, if you don't like it then ignore it.

[Ravenkana]

Runescape takes no skill?

 

I can follow a clicking pattern with no mistakes for 5 hours while fully understanding 2 movies that are not even in my natal language, how many non-runescapers can say that?

Someone who's taken a foreign language in college and works with computers?

[kingbrooks]

Halo is more skill then COD.

 

 

 

Let's keep this Runescape related..

Efficient training requires skill.

 

 

 

QFT

[magmaguard3]

I don't mind Runescape having a lack of skill applied to it. I just find certain things about it entertaining and amusing and that is what keeps me playing. I play for fun.

[Range_This11]

Oh god, now Robert is trolling the General Discussion forum? He trolled Off-Topic for a few months this summer. I guess people just move on haha.

[Patr1ck]

There are actually more skills involved in playing Runescape then you think. Take for example merchanting, not simply investing but truly merchanting, you must have a good eye, and understand certain aspects and patterns of an item, using graphs. This certainly requires true skill to do, not just something you can point and click. And to your point of pking, where one just clicks attacks and lets the player do the rest, this is very untrue. I propose an experiment where you go into a pvp world, attack another player and let your character fight, let's see how long you last. Pking requires good knowledge of when to do certain things, and the ability to react to your opponent's actions quickly. I certainly consider those skills, and I can call them skills because not everyone is able to do them. These skills are valid, and I'm sure if I thought a little more, i could come up with tons more but I don't feel the need to. This thread is a little useless now, as your statement has been proven false, I don't see much more discussion value in a thread that practically flames people for playing Runescape and suggesting them to play a different game.

[Panzerlord]

Well, some people enjoy repitition I suppose Robert. Some people also enjoy playing because their friends play. I love going to pc and bosses with my pals and going into the lady heinous cc to be with my TIF bros. It kinda takes your mind off of things to be among friends :

[Danny_TeamDan]

Okay. Don't play - perhaps you haven't even tried all the aspects of RS. I'm sure soloing corp/gw/w/e can take some skill. It also takes skill to be patient. Also check out the clan world...Theres tons of skill in wars and teamwork which makes it a fun aspect of the game.

[Ralph]

rs is srz bizness.

[Zierro]

So you have 930 posts on a Runescape fansite why?

 

 

 

Having discussions and debates are not nearly as tedious as training Woodcutting.

 

 

 

However, I would consider patience and perseverance to be skills.

[Obtaurian]

A few things:

 

 

 

1) loltroll

 

2) I love how your argument was completely and utterly decimated by multiple people, and then you conceded defeat. You're terrible at trolling.

 

3) I second what almost everyone else said. I have nothing to add.

[The Dark Lord]

This troll's even admitted that he's a troll. To the person that asked why his postcount was high for an RS fansite when he hated the game, it's because he trolled OT a lot until we ran him off.

 

 

 

But I guess this is the closest I've ever come to agreeing with him. :ohnoes: Runescape's basically a sit and click game that only takes any ounce of talent in a few areas. You are usually successful so long as you have the patience to grind away at goals for hours on end. It takes years for one person to even create a very high-level character with a good amount of wealth.

[Magel0maniac]

You could apply the same thing to real life... Nothing takes an incredible amount of skill if you know what you are doing. I'm sure many people play for the communal aspect of the game...

[r4ngewarlord]

You could apply the same thing to real life... Nothing takes an incredible amount of skill if you know what you are doing. I'm sure many people play for the communal aspect of the game...

 

I disagree, halo 3 requires skill to learn the spawn spots, to master the 4 shot, to be able to bounce and judge grenades correctly and I do know what i'm doing but i still haven't perfected my aim yet. I need more skill.

 

The reason people have jobs is because they have the skill's to do them properly.

[nerdboyxxx]

Hmmm, funny. You say that runescape, you play 2 hours just clicking, then move on to something that takes more clicking.

 

 

 

Halo: Play for one hour. Click to shoot, throw grenade with right trigger, zoom with scroll, duck by pressing a key on my keyboard (omfg I pressed a key!!! :roll:) and FINALLY get a bluddy kill. Then on to the next guy. Within 40 minutes I'm bored. Yes, thats right, I can play runescape for 5+ hours and NOT get bored, when I can play Halo for only 30 minutes and have to switch it off. Someone shoot me.

 

 

 

However, I will concede that their are a lot of other games out there with minimal grind and I also enjoy those. But all console games are the same, to an extent. The same with computer games...so you're "discussion" (aka rant, as it seems, as you aren't really stating a question as such) kinda just caved in on itself :lol:

[mervinator_9]

Pking takes skill.

 

 

 

That blows the idea of Rs requiring no skill what so ever argument out of the window, however outside of pvp I agree with you that little skill is required for the majority of the game.

 

 

 

Personally I think that's were knowledge and exploration take over though. In Halo for example you can learn a map(s) in minutes, the skill of manipulating and using the maps is where an advantage is gained. In Rs though you could train a skill for hours and hours and realise that you've wasted alot of time. There may have been a faster or cheaper way to train you had no idea about and as a result the more knowledgeable players are generally the more successful (although I accept measuring success in Rs is difficult).

[Aneron]

it takes a little bit of dexterity to runecraft and fletch, or woodcut and alch at the same time ;o

 

 

 

at least if you want to do it efficiently

 

 

 

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I also agree with the above point that some intelligence is required to do things the most efficient way possible. The fact of the matter is, video games are video games when it comes to skill required. None are like playing chess. But people don't always play them for the sake of showing off what they'd like to think are their prodigal gaming skills. Sometimes people just play them for fun.

[walka92]

yeah, alot of things in runescape take little to no skill, however high level combat (godwars, tormented demons, pking etc) do take a noticable amount of skill.

 

 

 

i cant pk for crap, and i know people my level who have similar stats to me that almost never lose a fight, but they cant do godwars to save their life, and when i played i did godwars for my money (and tds), and ive seen many people die at both simply because they didnt have the skill

 

 

 

yes, training it take very little skill, id agree. but thats the same in almost every game (im talking MMO's here). for example. in WoW you fight something...all you do is pretty much just click the moves in an order you have probably used a thousand times before. loot, eat, fight again....

 

 

 

that takes no skill, either. so its not like RS is the only game with grinding.

[mario_sunny]

A bit depressing, but true. That's the reason I quit. :P

[NotoriousPSC]

Pking takes skill.

 

 

 

 

 

Pking takes friends and being well armed

[kingbrooks]

Pking takes skill.

 

 

 

 

 

Pking takes friends and being well armed

 

 

 

90% of pking is in single combat, and a clawer can easily be downed by a skilled morr jav'er with veng.

[Dexek]

It takes some skill to put up with certain people.

[Kiriyama]

Flame me if you want, but what skill does CoD have? You press the trigger, hold down L3 a few times and press R1 every now and then. Pking means you have to click certain things at the right time.

 

 

 

Let's see...

 

 

 

In CoD4, well, let's take what I normally do, Sniping.

 

 

 

Often, I have a small target to aim at, it may even be just the smallest portion of their head sticking out, and then I have to make sure I line it up right, and shoot the guy before he can get me.

 

 

 

But before that I have to find somewhere that gives me a good view of the map, lay claymores in places where I can hear them trip, while making sure they are barely noticeable. I then have to make sure my spot gives me a significant amount of protection.

 

 

 

 

 

So don't talk about FPS games as not taking any skill at all, they require a lot more skill than RS.

 

 

 

Yes but these games have different ways of requiring skill, and as does runescape. Whilst you have to listen for claymores on Cod, we have to eat at certain times. Whilst you have to find a good spot on the map, we have to swap weapons perfectly so the enemy don't expect you to hit them with a godsword, but rather with a whip.

 

 

 

You don't listen for the claymore, you listen for the small "click" as it is tripped. If you listen for the explosion, you're too late.

 

 

 

There are a multitude of factors when finding a spot on the map, you can't just go there and expect to get it easily. Hell, once you get down swapping weapons, that's child's play.

 

 

 

Let me take the Scout Class on KZ2. It's basically the sniper, and it's a lot easier. You can be cloaked, then use Spot and Mark to find targets, shoot where you're told, and you'll probably get a kill. Hell, even the idiots that hide cloaked in the middle of the map have more skill. I generally play as the ISA on my preferred map, as it gives me the snipe spot I like. 72-19 is my record, and I was taking on a team half filled with Scouts. Now, if a Scout remains stationary whilst cloaked, he's practically invisible. Yet, I'm still able to effectively pull off headshots on them, even if you can't see where the head it, hell, the give-away point of the cloak is tiny, and the snipe spots are practically nil, everyone knows where you'll find snipers.

 

 

 

Surely you'll admit that takes more skill than just learning the time to switch a weapon, practicing a few times, and being able to do it.

 

 

 

And I won't even go into the classes that require you to get up close and personal.

[Magel0maniac]

You could apply the same thing to real life... Nothing takes an incredible amount of skill if you know what you are doing. I'm sure many people play for the communal aspect of the game...

 

I disagree, halo 3 requires skill to learn the spawn spots, to master the 4 shot, to be able to bounce and judge grenades correctly and I do know what i'm doing but i still haven't perfected my aim yet. I need more skill.

 

The reason people have jobs is because they have the skill's to do them properly.

 

 

 

I suppose you have a point, but isn't being able to see, and click, read, all just a skill?

[r4ngewarlord]

You could apply the same thing to real life... Nothing takes an incredible amount of skill if you know what you are doing. I'm sure many people play for the communal aspect of the game...

 

I disagree, halo 3 requires skill to learn the spawn spots, to master the 4 shot, to be able to bounce and judge grenades correctly and I do know what i'm doing but i still haven't perfected my aim yet. I need more skill.

 

The reason people have jobs is because they have the skill's to do them properly.

 

 

 

I suppose you have a point, but isn't being able to see, and click, read, all just a skill?

 

 

 

Yes thats true, being able to do anything is a skill of sorts.