Harakiri Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I'll provide a bit of commentary where I can but I found this list to be both good, and hilariously bad. BOLD: Games I strongly agree withITALICS: Games I strongly disagree with 200. Beyond Good and Evil199. Tactics Ogre198. Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow197. NHL 09196. Call of Duty195. Ultima194. Marvel Vs. Capcom 2193. Jak 3192. Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem191. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater190. The Chronicles of Rid[bleep]: Escape From Butcher Bay189. Kid Icarus188. Planescape: Torment187. Infamous186. Marble Madness185. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island184. Vagrant Story183. NFL 2K5182. Samurai Shodown181. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (It was alright, but not one of the best games ever...)180. Max Payne179. NBA Jam Tournament Edition178. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney177. Tekken 3176. Castlevania175. Dig Dug174. Gunstar Heroes173. Lode Runner172. Ikaruga171. Bully170. Ridge Racer169. Braid168. Tempest 2000167. Doom II166. King's Quest VI165. Peggle164. X-COM: UFO Defense163. Robotron: 2084162. Far Cry161. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved160. Thief159. Battlefield 1942158. Pong157. Devil May Cry156. Gauntlet155. Crackdown (Repetitive, and while it had some fun moments, it was an average game)154. LittleBigPlanet153. Asteroids152. Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht151. Fable150. ActRaiser149. Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos148. Super Mario RPG147. Super Castlevania IV146. Power Stone 2145. Unreal Tournament 2004 (Should have said the original because 2004 was not as good)144. Burnout 3: Takedown143. Assassin's Creed (Is this the same repetitive game I remember everybody hating when it first came out? I have played it, and it is another average game)142. Maniac Mansion: Day of the Tentacle141. Civilization IV140. Diablo139. Wolfenstein 3D (This should take the place of Halo or Goldeneye)138. Call of Duty 2137. Madden NFL '99136. Star Fox135. Final Fight134. Borderlands133. Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II132. Quake II131. Pilotwings130. Kingdom Hearts II129. Homeworld128. Metroid Fusion127. Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee126. Twisted Metal 2125. Shadowrun124. Warlords123. NHL '94122. Panzer Dragoon Saga121. Lemmings120. Mega Max X119. Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory118. Team Fortress 2117. Fallout116. Advance Wars115. Command & Conquer: Red Alert114. Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri113. Earthbound112. Final Fantasy XII111. Tetris Attack110. Halo 2109. Crash Bandicoot: Warped108. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots107. Gears of War106. Resident Evil105. System Shock 2104. Batman: Arkham Asylum103. Donkey Kong102. Heroes of Might & Magic III101. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowwind100. Portal99. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time98. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (The best in the series, should have taken the place of, at least, San Andreas)97. Sonic the Hedgehog 296. Counter-Strike95. Silent Hill 294. The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker93. Skies of Arcadia92. Medal of Honor: Allied Assault91. Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal90. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess89. God of War II88. Baldurs Gate II: Shadows of Amn87. Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness86. Super Smash Bros. Melee85. Metroid Prime84. Shadow of the Colossus83. Okami82. Left 4 Dead81. Super Mario Bros 2 (This was the worst Mario game to grace us...how it made the list I'll never know)80. Final Fantasy II79. Kingdom Hearts78. Command and Conquer77. Ninja Gaiden (NES)76. Mario's Picross75. Super Bomberman74. Tomb Raider73. Rock Band 272. Mortal Kombat II71. Age of Empires70. The Sims69. Dr. Mario68. Double Dragon67. Soul Calibur66. Zork65. Fallout 364. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas63. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask62. Star Wars: X-Wing61. The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening60. Arkanoid59. Adventure58. Mass Effect57. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 256. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves55. Ico54. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic53. Battlefield 252. Pac Man51. Super Mario Galaxy50. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (Snake Eater deserves this spot more)49.Guitar Hero48. Deus Ex47. Super Mario World46. Grand Theft Auto IV45. Final Fantasy Tactics44. EverQuest43. Final Fantasy X42. Pokemon Red and Blue41. Resident Evil 240. Gran Turismo39. Halo: Combat Evolved38. Mega Man 237. SimCity36. Civilization35. StarCraft34. Sonic the Hedgehog33. Super Mario Kart32. Goldeneye 00731. Tecmo Super Bowl30. Elder Scolls IV: Oblivion29. Half-Life28. Diablo II27. Bioshock26. God of War25. Street Fighter II24. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night23. Galaga22. Contra21. Super Metroid20. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time19. Metal Gear Solid18. Resident Evil 417. Chrono Trigger16.Mike Tyson's Punchout!!!15. Final Fantasy VII14. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare13. Super Mario 6412. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past11. World of Warcraft 10. Ms. Pac-Man (Shouldn't Pac Man the original be here?)9Super Mario Bros. 38. FInal Fantasy III7. Metroid6. Doom5. Half Life 24. Grand Theft Auto III3. Tetris2. Super Mario Bros.1. The Legend of Zelda It seems like a rushed list. Adding Call of Duty Modern Warfare one and two and quite a few other newer games just doesn't work. Some games I can see on the list, but a lot are just plain random. Assassin's Creed especially was a really lame edition to the list. When it came to series, they performed pretty poorly, Vice City should be in the San Andreas spot, MGS 2 should switch with MGS3. Other than that I am glad to see something other than SMB as number one. A lot of this just seems like a popularity contest though, not as much good games, but popular games. That may be why Wolfenstein 3D got beat by it's grandchild Halo. What the hell? I do agree with the placement of Half Life 2 though, as a fanboy. It's mostly because it introduced so many new concepts and also created an amazing atmosphere. Discuss where you think things should be placed and how you feel about the list. Before people ask, I agreed that Uncharted 2 was one of the best games ever because it was the most cinematic game ever, and conveyed a strong story and had an Indiana Jones movie sort of feel instead of a blocky third person shooter. It was smooth and should be what a lot more games feel like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle229 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Legend of Zelda? Really? [cabbage] list. Get back here so I can rub your butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_and_Spec Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 What's wrong with Legend of Zelda? It's a good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle229 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 What's wrong with Legend of Zelda? It's a good game. Good, not best. Get back here so I can rub your butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaziek Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 morrowind is lower down that oblivion. Clearly, it is [cabbage]. Also, there is nothing wrong with WoW being that high. Whether you like it or not, it is, purely from a objective design standpoint, one of the most finely made games of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevepole Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I hate lists like these because more often then not it is just someone's opinion and when its top 200 it more of just a list of 200 good games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Halo at 39th? How did it get that high? It is just generic FPS #4539. It added nothing new, the only saving grace were the graphics at the time as an early Xbox release, which are now outdated badly. Portal at #100, and BF:1942 at #149 both should have been much higher, both added much more to the gaming industry than a lot of the things higher. They seem to have been influenced by popularity in some of their choices, instead of what was actually good. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Can't say I agree with Half life 2 above Half Life. Damn fine game, yes, but it just can't beat the first which is placed at 29th? Final Fantasy 7 at 15th? CoD4 at 13th? Legend at Zelda (the original) at number 1? Were they trying to go for the most [developmentally delayed]ed choice ever? I mean I could almost see OoT in a high up place like that, from a console gamers perspective, but the original is not that great of a game. It's obviously bogged down by a Myriad of ancient [wagon] design issues and the game just does not stand the test of time like other classics (Doom, Tetris, Diablo) have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riku3220 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I also disagree with the original LoZ being #1. It really wasn't that great, even for a game of it's time. I also think The Sims shouldn't have beaten KH1 and 2, TF2, Borderlands, MGS4, and everything else it beat. The Sims has got to be the most boring game I have ever seen. It's like an RTS but without any action going on! It's watching fake people live a normal life. Most everything that you can do on The Sims you could do in real life if you would get off of the computer! But yeah, this list is crap just for having The Sims in the top 75. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distracted Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 This is a strange list, I don't really like it... Oh, and about Halo not bringing anything new, I'm not sure about this, but I remember hearing this, didn't it introduce regenerating health? Like I said, I'm not sure, but I heard this in a Halo ODST review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Assassin's creed, though repetitive did deserve a spot I think. I don't really get these lists. What makes the 140th game worse than the 139th, for example (I just made a just random selection there). Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoli Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Very ramdom list.Like everyone else said by now, it seems like a popularity contest rather than a proper top # list.Super Metroid Should have been higher, Zelda OoT the same and Super Mario Galaxy ditto.Also, is portal and System Shock 2 even there? [/PC]Also, all Metroid Primes should have been there, and way up there. And Brawl? And Earthbound?[/Nintendo]Odin Sphere? Jet Grind Radio? Shadow Complex, why is Braid so low? [everything else]Having the original Zelda in nº1 is really dumb. I am i huge zelda fan and i never enjoyed the original, WW, TP and OoT are much better, and having the original Mario ebat SMB3 and SMG, aswell as Metroid beating Super and prime(s) is Just BS Just say'in (One good thing, FF6>FF7, seriously that game rocked) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 This is a strange list, I don't really like it... Oh, and about Halo not bringing anything new, I'm not sure about this, but I remember hearing this, didn't it introduce regenerating health? Like I said, I'm not sure, but I heard this in a Halo ODST review. I don't think it was the first but it did popularize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uldric Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 System Shock 2 and Deus Ex should have been better placed. Plus the original Half Life should have placed higher then number 2.Pokemon at 42? Would have put it in the top 10 at least. And no Monkey Island or Grim Fandango? Wow... At least Baldur's Gate 2 made the list and the original Sim City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Tetris for #3? SERIOUSLY?! Puzzle games like that are really boring. :mellow: Melee should be placed higher, and why doesn't that list have Brawl or the original 64? :o Then again, this list is just Game Informer's opinion... BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDaStudd Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 List of ones which I've played and definitely don't need to be on the list.185. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island165. Peggle155. Crackdown 148. Super Mario RPG143. Assassin's Creed111. Tetris Attack81. Super Mario Bros 269. Dr. Mario16.Mike Tyson's Punchout!!!10. Ms. Pac-Man These should be higher up in my opinion177. Tekken 3116. Advance Wars Theres a fair few big games which are missing which I would definitely have in my top 20 let alone top 200.Having the original Zelda in nº1 is really dumb. I am i huge zelda fan and i never enjoyed the original, WW, TP and OoT are much better, and having the original Mario ebat SMB3 and SMG, aswell as Metroid beating Super and prime(s) is Just BSDid you ever play the original SMB on the NES?SMB and SMB3 are the best 2d platformers you're ever likely to play and there both completely different. [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakiri Posted November 27, 2009 Author Share Posted November 27, 2009 Can't say I agree with Half life 2 above Half Life. Damn fine game, yes, but it just can't beat the first which is placed at 29th? I can see where they are coming from.While Half Life was an amazing game, HL2 did introduce an advanced physics engine that many companies try to copy. I have never played an FPS where you pick up barrels and place them around to jump on, and nor have I played a game with such an amazing atmosphere. While HL had a bit of atmosphere, it was more from a cheesy sci-fi most of the time. Tetris for #3? SERIOUSLY?! Puzzle games like that are really boring.I have to agree with the magazine a bit though. They say it has been ported to every console, can be bought on any phone. All this from a friggin' guy with one super computer in Russia. It's pretty amazing that a game so little has become so large, but that also leads into the fact it is more a popularity contest than a best game list...It should have been in the teens and made way for games that paved the way for others to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoli Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 List of ones which I've played and definitely don't need to be on the list.185. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island165. Peggle155. Crackdown 148. Super Mario RPG143. Assassin's Creed111. Tetris Attack81. Super Mario Bros 269. Dr. Mario16.Mike Tyson's Punchout!!!10. Ms. Pac-Man These should be higher up in my opinion177. Tekken 3116. Advance Wars Theres a fair few big games which are missing which I would definitely have in my top 20 let alone top 200.Having the original Zelda in nº1 is really dumb. I am i huge zelda fan and i never enjoyed the original, WW, TP and OoT are much better, and having the original Mario beat SMB3 and SMG, aswell as Metroid beating Super and prime(s) is Just BSDid you ever play the original SMB on the NES?SMB and SMB3 are the best 2d platformers you're ever likely to play and there both completely different. Yes, i have them both on my Wii and like them very much, i just expressed how i think SMB3 and SMG> original SMB, specially SMB3, as it improved it in so many ways that the original felt very pale. SMG was and still is one of the most outstanding games i have ever played, and my nº2 pick as best mario game (smb3 is the best) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azvareth Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Max Payne but not Max Payne 2? For shame. Also where the hell is Tribes 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiny Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 This is just a pretty screwed up list, overall. Ms Pac-man? WTF. Pac Man itself is incredibly dull. I agree with Half-Life, I only played a little bit of the second, and found the first more enjoyable. This is me playing the game 10 years after it was released. I think Diablo II should of been higher, as well as Portal. I don't know how fable made it onto the list, it was just a really average RPG, with a really short story. Meh. A pretty crummy list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Everyone's going to have a different opinion, so I don't really see why they made this list anyway. 2257AD.TUMBLR.COM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorLepRecon Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 No list can accurately determine the top 200 games since everyone's criteria is different. Forum Updates & Suggestions <------ Let your voice be heard!Forum Games <------- Coolest place on Tip.ItTip.It Forum Rules <------- Read them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Yes, i have them both on my Wii and like them very much, i just expressed how i think SMB3 and SMG> original SMB, specially SMB3, as it improved it in so many ways that the original felt very pale. SMG was and still is one of the most outstanding games i have ever played, and my nº2 pick as best mario game (smb3 is the best)I haven't actually played SMB3, but I agree with what you said about SMG. And, as the last 2 posters have pointed out, everyone has a different opinion about the top 200. Though, this is a bit more of a popularity contest (look at the highest ranks), as Ratchet pointed out. BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennywise Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 These types of lists are ALWAYS terrible. Eight Bananas, MD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dax Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 These types of lists are ALWAYS terrible. I shall agree. Opinions annoy me. Especially in things like these. Assasin's Creed is very repetetive, should go way back, maybe drop off the list, there are better games. Vice City beats all other GTAs, San Andreas was a let down for me, I don't know why, maybe Las Venturas as a whole had a play in it? I hated those missions/that place. #KERR2016/17/18/19/20/21. #rpgformod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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