Aspergers

[Adam007]

Half of the time I place no faith in these psychological disorders, because it usually seems like half of them are created for parents to have an excuse to stuff their kids full of pills instead of managing them. But, I'm sure there are cases that actually matter and cause trouble for folks. Never affected me, never known anyone with it.

 

 

Do you think ADHD is simply too much sugar in people? Or Bipolar people are indecisive as well? Aspergers is a very real thing.

Diseases/disorders are socially constructed to begin with. A disorder like ADHD is a series of symptoms that if managed medically improves one's ability to function. Does that mean it's a disease? Whether or not someone should be treated really comes down to the individual. Same for asperger's. While technically in 2012 it will be eliminated as a disorder and reintegrated into the autism spectrum, there is such a range of symptoms that in some cases medication/treatment is not always necessary.

[The Dark Lord]

In my early years of school, teachers thought that I had Asperger's because I wasn't as social and had the type of repetitive interests that fall under that category. I had such an awkward lack of social skills that my friends would have to whisper to me that I was staring at a wall (and I didn't notice until they told me).

 

Anyway, I eventually picked up on social skills in high school. I'm a quiet person, but I still socialize. I just don't have much to say. I'm not an outgoing person, but whatever.

 

I was never diagnosed with Asperger's because my psychologist (whom my parents took me to after my teachers mentioned that I might have it) said that it would do more damage to me than it would to help me if he diagnosed me with it, even though I fit some of the criteria.

 

Anyway, it doesn't matter. I function well in society, so I don't give a rat's arse if I really do have some kind of social disorder. I'm not going to go get diagnosed with something (especially since I probably don't have Aspergers to begin with) that will prevent me from holding certain jobs in the future.... Jobs that I could easily do without any problems.

[Maze]

I do think that I secretly have a (minor) mental condition simply because I often think of very weird things (which does influence great stories which gets a good grade in my honors english class) and because I just do weird things. Like sometimes I just stare at the palm of my hand and examine it or I will suddenly make a short, semi-loud humming loud.

 

I don't know if it's just me, but I've always thought I might have a mental condition of some kind.

[Jernlov]

Have it.

 

Was pretty severe in my childhood but manic depression is far more of a problem for me now. I still think it's pretty obvious to anyone online or offline, but there isn't that much point in trying to hide it. People find out, one way or another. It's not like it's a horrible thing all the time, either. I used to be pretty violent and self-absorbed but I haven't been like that for over six years. I think I just learned to handle it better. I've subconsciously curbed the obsessiveness too which is both a good and bad thing - can't really get involved with anything any more but at least I'm not obsessing over something stupid.

 

I have no idea how I feel about people who use it as an excuse. I'm not offended or anything, it's nothing to get worked up over. It's debateable if those people actually have it or not and it's definitely over-diagnosed, but yeah. There's no doubt in my mind that I don't have it.

[RpgGamer]

Friend of mine has it. I don't see her too much though. Basically she was normal, except she was fascinated by certain things, and VERY easily irritatted by really random things [like gum popping, pen clicking, and cat sounds]. She had a few angery episodes resulting in some thrown textbooks, flipped desks, exploded water bottles, and broken windows...but she functioned pretty well.

 

Otherwise....hasn't effected me too much. made me realize some people react strangely do to a predisposition'd condition. But that's about it.

[Pirate_Felix]

I think by judging my past i might kinda have it, but then anyway the past isnt anything like im today.

I grew over all that getting irritated by little things and i just went relax mode, didnt do anything weird for almost a year now (y) .

[tortilliachp]

The danger of all disease in the "I'm my own doctor"-age is that people "diagonse" themselves with all sorts of things. Thus, the difference between a disease and a diagnosis is swiftly eliminated. The two different words have very different meanings.

 

I don't know about you, but the years spent studying psychiatry required to maintain a standard that can dignify humans as such seem worthy of some consideration. All those claiming to be *insert diagnosis here* go see a professional and the the diagnosis, don't water out what for some people is very real. If you don't have a diagnosis, don't group yourself with those that do.

 

Mental diseases are not like allergies or a broken arm: either you have one or you don't. There are degrees to which symptoms can be seen. Almost all of us fit a few of the characteristics for being diagnosed with personality flaws such as OCD, addictive disorders, scitzophrenia and so on and so forth. It's the degree.

 

 

 

I have an aquanintance from school (don't know him more than that he talks to some friends of mine sometimes) who has aspbergers to a severe degree. He applied to media-related jobs, got interviews everywhere he applied to based on his magnificent portfolio. Rejected at all interviews when he presented himself honestly (confirmation of diagnosis in hand). Asked all places for a task, so he could show he works within normal timeframes, and understands people socially. He got his week-long assignment many places (promised by the companies a lot more, never got back in touch with him), aced them all, got loads of job offers.

 

BUT he rejected all the offers to jobs he got, because he wouldn't deal with bigoted, judging people, and is currently unemployed living with his parents. He's still applying for jobs, wanting to get accepted for who he is, rather than being judged. The first company to look at who he is professionally, rather than socially, will get a VERY dedicated worker, who knows everything there is to know about what he does (I don't), and will effectively be spending all his spare time working for free, because he loves what he does, and little else.

 

Would you be able to go by your ideals, with jobs dangling tantalizingly close? I don't think i would.

[Jernlov]

I have an aquanintance from school (don't know him more than that he talks to some friends of mine sometimes) who has aspbergers to a severe degree. He applied to media-related jobs, got interviews everywhere he applied to based on his magnificent portfolio. Rejected at all interviews when he presented himself honestly (confirmation of diagnosis in hand). Asked all places for a task, so he could show he works within normal timeframes, and understands people socially. He got his week-long assignment many places (promised by the companies a lot more, never got back in touch with him), aced them all, got loads of job offers.

 

BUT he rejected all the offers to jobs he got, because he wouldn't deal with bigoted, judging people, and is currently unemployed living with his parents. He's still applying for jobs, wanting to get accepted for who he is, rather than being judged. The first company to look at who he is professionally, rather than socially, will get a VERY dedicated worker, who knows everything there is to know about what he does (I don't), and will effectively be spending all his spare time working for free, because he loves what he does, and little else.

 

Would you be able to go by your ideals, with jobs dangling tantalizingly close? I don't think i would.

 

I suffered with predjudice and bigoted attitudes quite a lot during school. My Asperger's is quite severe, and when I was (quite a bit) younger, I was very dependent on external help in order to overcome my difficulties in timekeeping and interaction.

 

...However, as I got older and my skills gradually improved and I found myself in less need of help. Much less need. However, people around me and teachers in particular were still convinced that I had to be reminded of everything at regular intervals and others would "dumb themselves down" in order to talk to me. It wasn't a good time in my life and it inevitably led to me leaving school prematurely, along with some other problems I was having at the time. It got better in my final year, but it was still pretty atrocious overall. I've been scared off both further education and work as a result. People don't really change. I briefly had a job helping out in my family's business earlier this year, but it was only for a few weeks.

 

I also have bipolar I disorder, but that's for a different thread perhaps.

[____]

I can't speak for Aspergers but there was a kid at my high school with ADHD and since then I have met multiple people who claim to have it but in comparison to the kid I knew in highschool... they're just using it as a reason to get doped up on meds and be a bastard to people. So with that said, I also know some people with Autism and what tortilliachp wrote of is fairly close to them too. They're damn bright but always getting stabbed in the back by judgmental tossers at the top of the ladder when it comes to looking for work.

[Amaranth_GTO]

I know quite a few people with aspergers/autism. 2 friends with siblings who have it, one friend who has it, a classmate who has it, and someone on my schools golf team has it. It's definitely a mental disorder, but I'm pretty sure theres no meds prescribed for it or anything. People who have it are always shy, quiet, socially awkward, seem VERY opposed to change, etc.

[jasignhagj]

In my early years of school, teachers thought that I had Asperger's because I wasn't as social and had the type of repetitive interests that fall under that category. I had such an awkward lack of social skills that my friends would have to whisper to me that I was staring at a wall (and I didn't notice until they told me).

 

Anyway, I eventually picked up on social skills in high school. I'm a quiet person, but I still socialize. I just don't have much to say. I'm not an outgoing person, but whatever.

 

I was never diagnosed with Asperger's because my psychologist (whom my parents took me to after my teachers mentioned that I might have it) said that it would do more damage to me than it would to help me if he diagnosed me with it, even though I fit some of the criteria.

 

Anyway, it doesn't matter. I function well in society, so I don't give a rat's arse if I really do have some kind of social disorder. I'm not going to go get diagnosed with something (especially since I probably don't have Aspergers to begin with) that will prevent me from holding certain jobs in the future.... Jobs that I could easily do without any problems.

 

Same-ish with me, but it was just everyone held a grudge against me because i told on the popular kids in grade 1, so i had no friends at school. The teachers also thought i had ADD, because i didn't pay attention in class, but that was because i was smart for my age and elementary school was so damn boring.

[Giordano]

Reading all these sympthoms I'm almost convinced I have it... but, I feel I can change. Is that feeling present in those with these types of disorders?

[anonymous1234]

Most people who think they have Asperger's don't actually have it, don't worry.

[fastortoise]

I had no idea it was called Aspergers. Now I can't stop thinking about asparagus, which is filled with asparagine, an amino acid coded by codons AAC and AAU,.. asparaginase can hydrolyze asparagine into ammonium and aspartate which can be further degrated into oxalocetate by a transaminase which can then go into the citric acid cycle.

 

Also, stop trying to classify yourselves as autistic. Just because you're a hermit and a nerd doesn't mean you are extra special :thumbdown:

[Flodder450]

i am diagosed with ADHD,PDD-NOS and Autism

 

 

im a guy who is, very into himself

 

i honestly cant communicate with most people of my age,but i can talk to old friends who are my age (i cant word it out properly :wall: )

 

Younger kids absolutely LOVE me,they always are very pleased to talk to me,we are a foster family,so we get kids from troubled familys quite often,last time,the little boy who was at our home, he just saw me as a Big Brother(Again, bad wording)

 

so...although im diagnosed with Autism, my parents find it to be more aspergers-like

[anonymous1234]

I had no idea it was called Aspergers. Now I can't stop thinking about asparagus, which is filled with asparagine, an amino acid coded by codons AAC and AAU,.. asparaginase can hydrolyze asparagine into ammonium and aspartate which can be further degrated into oxalocetate by a transaminase which can then go into the citric acid cycle.

 

Also, stop trying to classify yourselves as autistic. Just because you're a hermit and a nerd doesn't mean you are extra special :thumbdown:

 

^This

 

Also, you need to stop getting edumacated, boy.

[ThurinEthir]

Most people who think they have Asperger's don't actually have it, don't worry.

But...but...what if I actually do?!??!??!!??!

aw crap i can't find the emoticon i wanted to use...

[anonymous1234]

Go see a psychologist or something if you're that worried :P

[Orpheus]

Or you could, I don't know, attempt to rectify the situation, make friends, be more social, etc. rather than look for a doctor to make an excuse for you.

 

Honestly, that's all diseases really are, aren't they? Oh, I can't run fast because I have asthma. I can't sit still because I have ADHD. There's a fine line between a debilitating illness / disease / injury and an excuse from someone who doesn't want to work hard.

 

So you're saying that 'borderline' cases like asthma and ADD are just used as excuses? That's debatable. Asthma IS debilitating, and from personal experience, I can pretty much tell you it really does limit my ability to run for longer distances or higher speeds, although this is just an example. Then again, these psychological cases can be based on chemical imbalances, such as my depression from the past few years were not due to experiences or anything like that, but because the serotonin levels in my brain and gut were so low that I couldn't be happy; It was even to the point where even sexual urges couldn't bring happiness.

 

Most of these psychological diseases ARE a classification of symptoms though.

[Orpheus]

The only way to overcome an illness / disease / injury is to work hard.

 

I'm sick of people acting like they don't have to be productive members of society because they have whateveritis.

 

The main point I want to make here is that there's a difference between a bull[bleep] excuse and something that can't be controlled by an individual. My point about my absurdly low serotonin levels isn't something within my control, and no amount of sunlight or physical work has caused noticeable changes in my mood, as an example.

 

Interestingly enough, most third-world countries seem to not have any cases of ADD or ADHD.

[fastortoise]

The only way to overcome an illness / disease / injury is to work hard.

 

I'm sick of people acting like they don't have to be productive members of society because they have whateveritis.

Those [bleep]ing autistic kids found a way to freeload in *my* society!? Not on my watch.

*gets out the shotgun*

[Alexpop11]

Okay, im going to come out here and start a flame war.

There IS a difference between a NERD and ASPHERGERS!

i have asphergers, and the biggest thing i have noticed is that i WANT to be socally active, i just don't know how.I don't know how to talk to people, or how to handle any normal social issues.

 

I was not born with a knowledge of things like this. Most kids can start off nice and social, i couldn't. I didn't know how to talk to kids, to make friends. Kids needed to make friends with me, or else i would be out of luck. I simply couldn't be social.

 

Teachers have always had to make themselfs EXTREMLY exact about what they are saying to me, as i cannot take verbal cues like sarcasm. I could never tell you, to this day, if a girl EVER shot me a sign. I would never see it. Social cues, like those, DO NOT COMPUTE. literally.

 

What i have noticed is that nerds don't WANT to be socally active. They could very well blend themselfs in like a normal human being. Alot of them that i know ARE funny, HAVE friends, they just prefer the soltude (and COD rankings).

And sure as CABBAGE people are diagnosed with this syndrom and DON'T have it, they want a excuse to BE the nerd they are.

And by GOD, the kids who i have met who I KNOW have asphergers need extra help, and they NEED their special care.

 

 

*GASP*

im out of breath, i need a quick break.

I'll continue my rant some other day -.-

[Star_Fox]

I had no idea it was called Aspergers. Now I can't stop thinking about asparagus, which is filled with asparagine, an amino acid coded by codons AAC and AAU,.. asparaginase can hydrolyze asparagine into ammonium and aspartate which can be further degrated into oxalocetate by a transaminase which can then go into the citric acid cycle.

 

Also, stop trying to classify yourselves as autistic. Just because you're a hermit and a nerd doesn't mean you are extra special :thumbdown:

 

^This

 

Also, you need to stop getting edumacated, boy.

 

 

ahh, the typical extrovert response. The only thing the society can offer in these topics.

[anonymous1234]

Okay, im going to come out here and start a flame war.

There IS a difference between a NERD and ASPHERGERS!

i have asphergers, and the biggest thing i have noticed is that i WANT to be socally active, i just don't know how.I don't know how to talk to people, or how to handle any normal social issues.

 

I was not born with a knowledge of things like this. Most kids can start off nice and social, i couldn't. I didn't know how to talk to kids, to make friends. Kids needed to make friends with me, or else i would be out of luck. I simply couldn't be social.

 

Teachers have always had to make themselfs EXTREMLY exact about what they are saying to me, as i cannot take verbal cues like sarcasm. I could never tell you, to this day, if a girl EVER shot me a sign. I would never see it. Social cues, like those, DO NOT COMPUTE. literally.

 

What i have noticed is that nerds don't WANT to be socally active. They could very well blend themselfs in like a normal human being. Alot of them that i know ARE funny, HAVE friends, they just prefer the soltude (and COD rankings).

And sure as CABBAGE people are diagnosed with this syndrom and DON'T have it, they want a excuse to BE the nerd they are.

And by GOD, the kids who i have met who I KNOW have asphergers need extra help, and they NEED their special care.

 

 

*GASP*

im out of breath, i need a quick break.

I'll continue my rant some other day -.-

 

I disagree, I'm a nerdy/shy/X kid and would like to be more social, but I find it hard. Does this mean I have asperger's? No. Don't generalize that people are introverted because they choose to be. Some people just don't know don't have the initiative to begin socializing. This does not mean they have any sort of diagnosable problem, however.

[Alexpop11]

Okay, im going to come out here and start a flame war.

There IS a difference between a NERD and ASPHERGERS!

i have asphergers, and the biggest thing i have noticed is that i WANT to be socally active, i just don't know how.I don't know how to talk to people, or how to handle any normal social issues.

 

I was not born with a knowledge of things like this. Most kids can start off nice and social, i couldn't. I didn't know how to talk to kids, to make friends. Kids needed to make friends with me, or else i would be out of luck. I simply couldn't be social.

 

Teachers have always had to make themselfs EXTREMLY exact about what they are saying to me, as i cannot take verbal cues like sarcasm. I could never tell you, to this day, if a girl EVER shot me a sign. I would never see it. Social cues, like those, DO NOT COMPUTE. literally.

 

What i have noticed is that nerds don't WANT to be socally active. They could very well blend themselfs in like a normal human being. Alot of them that i know ARE funny, HAVE friends, they just prefer the soltude (and COD rankings).

And sure as CABBAGE people are diagnosed with this syndrom and DON'T have it, they want a excuse to BE the nerd they are.

And by GOD, the kids who i have met who I KNOW have asphergers need extra help, and they NEED their special care.

 

*GASP*

im out of breath, i need a quick break.

I'll continue my rant some other day -.-

 

I disagree, I'm a nerdy/shy/X kid and would like to be more social, but I find it hard. Does this mean I have asperger's? No. Don't generalize that people are introverted because they choose to be. Some people just don't know don't have the initiative to begin socializing. This does not mean they have any sort of diagnosable problem, however.

No, it doesen't MEAN.

Its one of many FACTORS they look for when specifying you with aspheregers syndrom, on top of a pile of others.

My point is that nerds are not the same as sphergers kids, and alot of people on this topic seem to be ignoreing that, just saying things like 'Aspheregers is just nerds who don't want to be normal.'

I've seen that like 8 times on this topic, and it ticks me off.

If you have a problem with social activitys, then SO BE IT!

Im just making a point for everone making dumb comments about how asphergers kids.

I saw a while ago someone posted "Also, stop trying to classify yourselves as autistic. Just because you're a hermit and a nerd doesn't mean you are extra special "

Thats a great example of the ignorance im talking about here.

Now having this lack of social skills may not be the most heavly wieghted factor for being diagnosed with asphergers, but it is probably the most noticable, sending people to link it with being a nerd. i just HATE when that happens.

 

 

Im not trying to say that their is a difference, and just because im an asphergers kid dosn't mean i WANT to be a hermit or a nerd. I would love to be that normal kid.

 

I would also hate losing my originality :P

 

 

God, i sound like a cabbage hole -.-

Im not one to be so agressive, but this a sensitive topic for me.