Why do you guys not take driving courses? People that are actually qualified to teach how to drive and they won't lose patience like that.

My first time driving was on the road, not in some parking lot. I know that driving in go-carts and stuff isn't the same, but it was similar enough for me not to [bleep] up driving with a real car my first time.

I've never heard of somebody crashing, denting, or scratching while learning to drive. People are just too overreactive and impatient, so they vent their insecurity and boredom through anger.

 

@Sbrideau: Those lessons cost $$$, and in my opinion, a waste of cash if you have ONE patient friend or family member.

Why do you guys not take driving courses? People that are actually qualified to teach how to drive and they won't lose patience like that.

Costs a lot of money that I can't afford, why not get it for free?

People who make statements about their own personality (usually flaws) and present them as endearing foibles.

Why do you guys not take driving courses? People that are actually qualified to teach how to drive and they won't lose patience like that.

Costs a lot of money that I can't afford, why not get it for free?

If you have someone who has the time and skill to teach you to be a good driver for free, by all means, go for it. For everyone else, there are driving schools.

i hate pretentious people. (pretentious means having an exaggerated self-opinion)

I've never heard of somebody crashing, denting, or scratching while learning to drive. People are just too overreactive and impatient, so they vent their insecurity and boredom through anger.

 

@Sbrideau: Those lessons cost $$$, and in my opinion, a waste of cash if you have ONE patient friend or family member.

 

The problem with learning from someone who isn't an actual driving teacher is that you are going to pass on all your bad habbits, and everyone has bad habbits. If I am given a drive by someone, and the parent who taught them (the father 99% of the time), I can tell whether their child had lessons or not based on how much they drive like their parent. Never has the observation that someone drives like their parent been a good thing. We all pick up bad habbits over time, which means if you teach your own children too much, your starting them off with at least a decade of bad habbits, probably more.

 

My mom refused to drive with me while I was learning because she backseat drives. She still does it to me a bit, and I've been driving now for 5 years. My brother actually took me on my first drive, because he was going to be the most calm about it.

Why do you guys not take driving courses? People that are actually qualified to teach how to drive and they won't lose patience like that.

Costs a lot of money that I can't afford, why not get it for free?

I agree with that, and I could've got it of free, but I saved a lot more than the $551 I paid for the course (in 2004 mind you, I don't know the current prices) on insurance because of the free 6 years experience it gave me on my license. The laws are probably different where you live but here that's how it works. Not sure if I'm mistaken on the amount of years either, 6 years seems like a lot, but then again I saved quite a lot on insurance.

People screwing with the hot water system. (aka brother in law and sister)

 

We don't have hot water because you two keep **** using all of it on 30min showers 3 times a day!

I've never heard of somebody crashing, denting, or scratching while learning to drive. People are just too overreactive and impatient, so they vent their insecurity and boredom through anger.

 

@Sbrideau: Those lessons cost $$$, and in my opinion, a waste of cash if you have ONE patient friend or family member.

 

The problem with learning from someone who isn't an actual driving teacher is that you are going to pass on all your bad habbits, and everyone has bad habbits. If I am given a drive by someone, and the parent who taught them (the father 99% of the time), I can tell whether their child had lessons or not based on how much they drive like their parent. Never has the observation that someone drives like their parent been a good thing. We all pick up bad habbits over time, which means if you teach your own children too much, your starting them off with at least a decade of bad habbits, probably more.

Never has the observation that someone drives like their parent has been a good thing? My father, Class A Professional Driver and my mother, clean traffic record for 18 years, not good?

 

And also...what are bad driving habits? When you teach someone, you teach them the lawful way. And besides, driving is so damn simple how can one have "bad habits"? You either drive respectfully or selfishly, mostly for moments at a time.

I've never heard of somebody crashing, denting, or scratching while learning to drive. People are just too overreactive and impatient, so they vent their insecurity and boredom through anger.

 

@Sbrideau: Those lessons cost $$$, and in my opinion, a waste of cash if you have ONE patient friend or family member.

 

The problem with learning from someone who isn't an actual driving teacher is that you are going to pass on all your bad habbits, and everyone has bad habbits. If I am given a drive by someone, and the parent who taught them (the father 99% of the time), I can tell whether their child had lessons or not based on how much they drive like their parent. Never has the observation that someone drives like their parent been a good thing. We all pick up bad habbits over time, which means if you teach your own children too much, your starting them off with at least a decade of bad habbits, probably more.

Never has the observation that someone drives like their parent has been a good thing? My father, Class A Professional Driver and my mother, clean traffic record for 18 years, not good?

 

And also...what are bad driving habits? When you teach someone, you teach them the lawful way. And besides, driving is so damn simple how can one have "bad habits"? You either drive respectfully or selfishly, mostly for moments at a time.

 

Well you never know. There are things that some people may think is legal, but actually isn't. One good example where I live is people using the shoulder to turn, it's illegal here, but so many people do it. I've seen it almost cause some accidents too.

This has probably been said before, but I can't [bleep]ing stand it.

People that only use "your" when a lot of the time it should be "you're". I don't know if they were never taught proper English and don't know any better or if it's just laziness. Either way it's [bleep]ing annoying. I find other grammar things annoying too, but this one is the worst for me.

In my country there is no option of learning to drive without the Drivers' School. It is mandatory for everyone who wants the license. And mandatory is like 40 theory lessons and 40 driving hours, at least. Sure, it may cost a bit, but you'll never see such idiocies that some Americans do while driving. I think it is a good option.

I meant I had never observed a case myself where driving like their parents seemed like a boon.

 

By bad habbits, I am talking more about style than legality.

 

 

You get your rough and abrubt drivers who treat the pedals and wheel like an on/off switch. Another one I notice is if either of the parents are a really nervous driver, their children often end up nervous too. The other thing you run into are great drivers that will still fail the test, because they aren't perfectly by the book. A common one is if your pulling out of a side streen, and someone has their blinker on indicating they are pulling in there, some peoplejust pull out counting on them to be slowing down and turning. Most will normally wait to be sure they are slowing down (this is where I am now), but on a test, if they are close enough that your counting on them turning, you damn well wait for them to actually engage the turn, because an alarming number of people will actually go strait. Speeing is one that is common as dirt. Around here, you don't go within 5km/h of the speed limit on your test, because if they think you've gone over, you fail.

 

Then you have your rolling stops, merging without checking blind spots, not using blinkers, not turning your lights on in reduced visibility (like rain, where you di it not to light your way, but so that people can actually see you), not pulling over a bit to the side when the opposing lane has a car parked on the side (to make room for the other lane to get by). All these little things.

 

The point is, their job is to do everything by the book, and start you off in the best possible place. They tend to be much better at it than everyone else, because they are trained for it.

You're lucky that you need to be by the book to pass, I think even if you don't drive by the book you should be when passing the license test. You don't need to go by the book, but it's still much better to have good habits. Here it's either by the book, or you pay a sum of money. Yep, the person that gives the license is corrupted. I've heard of people passing their license while drinking beer. I'm surprised they haven't investigated him yet.

You're lucky that you need to be by the book to pass, I think even if you don't drive by the book you should be when passing the license test. You don't need to go by the book, but it's still much better to have good habits. Here it's either by the book, or you pay a sum of money. Yep, the person that gives the license is corrupted. I've heard of people passing their license while drinking beer. I'm surprised they haven't investigated him yet.

Lovely.

 

And I think I am being unfair. In the great scheme of things, most people would probably turn out to be decent drivers learning from their parents, obviously pending on the parents skill and teaching abilities. Between that, and just reading the book, you'll probably be alright until you get some experiance. What the classes are really for here are two things. First, if you take them it cuts half the time off the required waiting period between your begginers and learners. Here, you do the written test for a class 7 license, which has all kinds of restrictions, such as you have to have just one passenger, and they need a full class 5 license. 6 months after you get that you can be tested for your 5N licencense, 3 months if you do some form of accredited drivers ed program (and they normally also provide the car they've been teaching you in, so that you have experience with that particular car). 2 years after you get your 5N, you lose the N and get a full class 5 that has no curfew limits on it. And I might have the classes wrong, but you get the idea.

You're lucky that you need to be by the book to pass, I think even if you don't drive by the book you should be when passing the license test. You don't need to go by the book, but it's still much better to have good habits. Here it's either by the book, or you pay a sum of money. Yep, the person that gives the license is corrupted. I've heard of people passing their license while drinking beer. I'm surprised they haven't investigated him yet.

Lovely.

 

And I think I am being unfair. In the great scheme of things, most people would probably turn out to be decent drivers learning from their parents, obviously pending on the parents skill and teaching abilities. Between that, and just reading the book, you'll probably be alright until you get some experiance. What the classes are really for here are two things. First, if you take them it cuts half the time off the required waiting period between your begginers and learners. Here, you do the written test for a class 7 license, which has all kinds of restrictions, such as you have to have just one passenger, and they need a full class 5 license. 6 months after you get that you can be tested for your 5N licencense, 3 months if you do some form of accredited drivers ed program (and they normally also provide the car they've been teaching you in, so that you have experience with that particular car). 2 years after you get your 5N, you lose the N and get a full class 5 that has no curfew limits on it. And I might have the classes wrong, but you get the idea.

 

Yeah it works pretty much the same way here, except for that 5N thing, I might inform myself here, but I think they recently added a curfew for people under 21 here.

This has probably been said before, but I can't [bleep]ing stand it.

People that only use "your" when a lot of the time it should be "you're". I don't know if they were never taught proper English and don't know any better or if it's just laziness. Either way it's [bleep]ing annoying. I find other grammar things annoying too, but this one is the worst for me.

I think it's even worse when people say "you're" when it should be "your". At that point they can't even be using slightly shorter words to save time typing; they have to truly not understand the difference.

I know I mess them more than I would lie. I just think of the words, and my fingers will pick out the spelling. I never actually think about which letters I am hitting on the keyboard (which is good because I type faster than I could think of them anyway). I will default to whichever variation I use or like most if I am not paying attention. I imagine most people are like this, and a lot of the mistakes you see are just that, mistakes.

G4.

 

Aka, the Ninja Warrior and Occasional 80's Movie Channel, and Maybe Sometimes Something Video Game Related If We Feel Like It.

G4.

 

Aka, the Ninja Warrior and Occasional 80's Movie Channel, and Maybe Sometimes Something Video Game Related If We Feel Like It.

Yeah, G4 has been going down... I was really confused when I had to go to Spike to watch E3 instead of G4. G4 was showing Cops or something, during the god damn Microsoft E3 conference.

G4.

 

Aka, the Ninja Warrior and Occasional 80's Movie Channel, and Maybe Sometimes Something Video Game Related If We Feel Like It.

Yeah, G4 has been going down... I was really confused when I had to go to Spike to watch E3 instead of G4. G4 was showing Cops or something, during the god damn Microsoft E3 conference.

Wait, they're not even covering E3 right now?

 

Used to be what seemed like 24/7 X-Play and Cheat, now I don't even know what they're going for.

I read somewhere a couple months ago that there's some new guy in charge, and that it's going to go away from the random reality shows and back to video game/tech stuff. Hopefully that's true.

G4.

 

Aka, the Ninja Warrior and Occasional 80's Movie Channel, and Maybe Sometimes Something Video Game Related If We Feel Like It.

 

Now that I think about it, I realized I no longer have that channel anymore on my TV. I remembered watching a few interesting shows out of boredom and X-Play to giggle at the snarking for awhile before the style changed and nothing else.