Skeptical Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 "They kind of invented thrash". They were half of the reason metal got good. Bloodline may not be their best song ever, but they didn't start sucking post-Raining Blood, like some people pretend: they just were less popular. EDIT: And LOG, Ektomorpf, Kataklysm, Throwdown, and Napalm Death all have music videos. And that's just right off the top of my head. "Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security." Support transparency... and by extension, freedom and democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Jay99 Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Okay it's not a 100% rule, but you get my point (which was that bands with vids usually suck, not that they usually arent metal). And I disagree, slayer got less popular because they started sucking. Besides, otep (to get back to the original point) isn't on the metal archives, and that's basically is the only decent standard around to define what is and what isnt metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptical Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 You rely on a website to tell you what genre bands are in?! And when the number of exceptions to a rule of thumb outnumber the occurrences of the rule being correct, it should be abolished. "Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security." Support transparency... and by extension, freedom and democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezalor Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Holy bleep so much hating on trash hereAnthrax Megadeth Metallica Slayer will ALWAYS be the big 4 of Trash Metal, if you like it or not.And all these 4 bands are metal, like it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptical Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Thank you. I have no idea how any real headbanger/metalhead could doubt that. "Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security." Support transparency... and by extension, freedom and democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkeykong23 Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Anyone know of any good rap metal? Like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBA-xi8WuCU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Jay99 Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 And when the number of exceptions to a rule of thumb outnumber the occurrences of the rule being correct, it should be abolished.Wait do you seriously want me to post vids of sucky metal bands? I have no idea how any real headbanger/metalhead could doubt that.Claiming someone not a real metalhead when they think differently than you is a bit irrational, right? Also if I look at most 'real' metalheads I'm not sure if I want to be one, most seem to attach more value to what band they listen to than to the actual music. You wouldn't listen to a sucky band making a sucky album, but when a well known band that has made some good albums before makes a bad album you'll listen to it no problem? You rely on a website to tell you what genre bands are in?!So I take it you're a musical expert who is more qualified to decide whether or not a band is metal than a site founded especially for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptical Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 I'm saying that when there is a massive number of exception to a "rule of thumb" it's not a very useful rule. Being a metalhead and saying that Slayer isn't real metal is like being a communist because you hate the proletariat. I'm not saying that my opinion of what genre a band is in is necessarily correct, but please provide evidence for where the conclusion is incorrect, instead of stating that a website does not include a band. "Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security." Support transparency... and by extension, freedom and democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Jay99 Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Slayer isn't real metalNah it's just that most of their albums are terrible in my opinion, thrash isn't my genre at all though so that might influence it a bit. That last question forced me to watch the whole vid and I must say I'm kinda disgusted by the whole pseudo-political attitude they display. I really haven't got the slightest clue about why bands are considered metal or not, but trying to be really loud and angry isn't one of the requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptical Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Slayer isn't real metalNah it's just that most of their albums are terrible in my opinion, thrash isn't my genre at all though so that might influence it a bit. That last question forced me to watch the whole vid and I must say I'm kinda disgusted by the whole pseudo-political attitude they display. I really haven't got the slightest clue about why bands are considered metal or not, but trying to be really loud and angry isn't one of the requirements. Actually, I would say that is one of the defining principles of metal. "Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security." Support transparency... and by extension, freedom and democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Actually, I would say that is one of the defining principles of metal.Until you get into power metal which makes a point of being happy sounding and melodic, most of the time. :razz: Metal is weird that way. Though thinking that the whole thrash thing is just the way it progresses. Those guys aren't so 'heavy' now, but that's because metal's been developing in the ~30 years since then. Compare, say, '80s Slayer to Whitesnake or the Scorpions and see the difference. [spoiler=music video]Not necessarily related to the sound thing, but the metal music video thing from a page back. I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 The music video? Yes, they all are. If your statement was concerning the song, then is it safe to assume you sit in the BFMV/Rise Against/Dragonforce camp? I don't like any of those bands... And yes, it was concerning the song. It was terrible. Her voice sounds awful, she doesn't know how to growl/scream. It was just bad. Like, annoyingly bad. (Could not listen to the entire song). Other than that good job crapping up a nice thread he had here with the stupid "hurr what is real metal" debate. No one cares, seriously. Now can we just get back to posting some kick ass metal songs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triquos Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Within Temptation - The other half of me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvXn4aufNuM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topham Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Yes!! Kick Ass Metal!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODhO97za77k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKwyTQkaQ8A 2 songs that I absolutely adore right now.Enjoy -Destroy Topham- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElkNight Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Never mind I failed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-ngKJRGR78 [bleep] yes. 8,180WONGTONG IS THE BEST AND IS MORE SUPERIOR THAN ME#1 Wongtong stalker.Im looking for some No Limit soldiers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcneilp Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I don't know if anyone has posted this before but meh, I'll post it again as it's a damn good song.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHvuXdhnieA It isn't in the castle, It isn't in the mist, It's a calling of the waters, As they break to show, The new Black Death, With reactors aglow, Do you think your security, Can keep you in purity, You will not shake us off above or belowScottish frictionScottish fiction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkeykong23 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Should check out Threshold if you're into progressive metal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9KwxWTYYfA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LVxoq7Z7nMYep. I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkeykong23 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Yeah that's a great song also. You should also check out Circus Maximus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=369oWa8Jv64 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HD0bapCVZ0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topham Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 May as well post this, its been stuck in my head the last few days, and its pretty awesome, in my opinion. Eluveitie - Thousandfold http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb8WGig0MLU Yes, weird instruments!! And they rule live, caught them and was pleasantly surprised and their music grew on me, fantastically fun band. -Destroy Topham- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptical Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 That's actually really cool. Folk metal, but the vocals remind me of Static X, or even Fafara. "Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security." Support transparency... and by extension, freedom and democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topham Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 I actually haven't had a chance to listen to the whole album that that tracks off, but their album Slania is some of the best folk metal I think I've ever heard. I cannot get enough of Mutiny Within right now, I'm listening to their album very regularly, so heres the first track, which is also one of my favourites. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvWDFGuBD_Y Found out that Oceano have a new album coming out this week, but i'll have to wait for it till I get home, as I absolutely cannot afford it right now. Their first album stuck me as complex and a brilliant listen and was similar in style to Gojira, but was not a straight rip off of them, and was a solid release last year. Also, Deathspell Omega are releasing their 3rd part of their trilogy of albums, which I'm inexcusably excited about, but again I'll need to wait. The band has an air of mystique around them, and don't have their own website, but their albums are pure black metal, with an insane atmosphere on their previous effort Fas - Ite, Maledicti, In Ignem Aeturnum, that I found truly terrifying at points, but was an incredible album I'd recommend to any black metal fan. -Destroy Topham- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elf Spice Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 I hate the transcoded [cabbage] on YT, but oh well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGZBc2sRqKY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIzkoWxYD6Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-cDH6mYmlI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF6AazbybME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElkNight Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Lykathea Aflame :thumbup: 8,180WONGTONG IS THE BEST AND IS MORE SUPERIOR THAN ME#1 Wongtong stalker.Im looking for some No Limit soldiers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptical Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwTv45OW5Yw&feature=channel Really digging them at the moment. "Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security." Support transparency... and by extension, freedom and democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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