The 'top 10 clan ranking' has always been a touchy subject. It's open to interpretation and there are so many factors that can affect these ratings, however I have noticed there is a distinct lack of GMT based clans based within the top 10. One of the more recent opinions on these forums ranked the top 10 as follows:

 

1. Runescape Dinasty

2. Corruption

3. Reign of Terror

4. The Titans

5. Violent Resolution

6. Echo of Silence

7. Rejuvenation

8. Divine Forces

9. Crimson Raiders

10. LDK

 

Only one of these clans is actually ground-in GMT, and they're ranked 10th, although there doesn't seem to be a shortage of good GMT clans like LDK, Fools, TR, NG, TRWF, DG, RKOF

 

So my questions to you are as follows:

 

1. Why is there such a distinct lack of GMT clans in the top 10?

 

2. Do you think that a GMT clan is ever going to make it into the top 3/5?

 

3. Is there any one reason why EST clans seem to flourish so much more than their GMT counter parts?

 

4. Why aren't the majority of clans GMT based, and as such why are most wars not fought at a time that is more suitable to GMTers?

 

Personally I don't see any one reason why a GMTclan couldn't take number 1, I know all of the top 10 do have 'GMT units' It just seems to be that the majority of their wars are fought at a time that favours esters, which obviously puts GMTers at a disadvantage.

1. Why is there such a distinct lack of GMT clans in the top 10?

They strictly only fight at their highest level on their best day and in their timezone which limits them a lot.

 

2. Do you think that a GMT clan is ever going to make it into the top 3/5?

No.

 

3. Is there any one reason why EST clans seem to flourish so much more than their GMT counter parts?

They are able to fight in a broader timezone because they also have members who are GMT.

 

4. Why aren't the majority of clans GMT based, and as such why are most wars not fought at a time that is more suitable to GMTers?

I know CR has a large PST memberbase which makes it hard for us to extend that much earlier into the day to fight GMT clans but we have been doing it a lot more as of late, but i don't think GMT clans compromise as much on times of fights as do most "EST" based clans because they can't perform at any other time due to nearly all of their members being in the GMT timezone.

1. Why is there such a distinct lack of GMT clans in the top 10?

 

Its all based on uncapped fights now and GMT clans simply lose in an uncapped fight from an EST based clan due timezone.

 

2. Do you think that a GMT clan is ever going to make it into the top 3/5?

 

Depends how its going in the future, i think Fools is kinda top 5 already but they just can't win from a clan in an uncapped pkri but they can win a capped fight easily ( They won from VR and that kind of clans in capped fight ) if it was based on full outs / capped fights then GMT clans would dominate.

 

3. Is there any one reason why EST clans seem to flourish so much more than their GMT counter parts?

 

As i said before its all about uncapped fights right now and the timezone just makes it alot easier for EST and almost impossible for GMT or they have to outnumber very bad.

 

4. Why aren't the majority of clans GMT based, and as such why are most wars not fought at a time that is more suitable to GMTers?

 

I think the top clans have more GMT people then you think, and GMT clans / wilderness in GMT is alot more active then in EST timezone i don't know why alot of GMT people join EST based clans.

1. Why is there such a distinct lack of GMT clans in the top 10?

All the GMT smaller clans died and joined either LDK or TR

 

2. Do you think that a GMT clan is ever going to make it into the top 3/5?

Even if they did, they won't do uncapped for obvious reasons. Therefore no, a GMT clan will never break top 3 due to timezone.

 

3. Is there any one reason why EST clans seem to flourish so much more than their GMT counter parts?

This game is based EST wise, or atleast most of the clan world is. Some GMTers will stay up really late, like 1est etc, however alot will not. That cripples them.

 

4. Why aren't the majority of clans GMT based, and as such why are most wars not fought at a time that is more suitable to GMTers?

Because as you said yourself there isn't enough GMT clans to make a difference

1. Why is there such a distinct lack of GMT clans in the top 10? Most of them are filled with EST/PST Members.

 

2. Do you think that a GMT clan is ever going to make it into the top 3/5? Not on today's rating - uncapped fights that last over 5 hours long.

 

3. Is there any one reason why EST clans seem to flourish so much more than their GMT counter parts? It's based on uncapped wars, back on RAW GMT clans would easily be in the top 5.

 

4. Why aren't the majority of clans GMT based, and as such why are most wars not fought at a time that is more suitable to GMTers? Could be that EST is dominant in the clan world, I don't know if that's true though.

 

You also have to remember most GMTers in the top 15 join a GMT Clan/Country clan, such as TRWF/Fools/TR, TRWF has at least 5-10 times more the GMT members then a clan like TT. Clans like LF/TRWF have been #1 before, just on RAW and not the Top 10/20/30 list

1. Why is there such a distinct lack of GMT clans in the top 10?

 

GMT clans aren't competitive in uncapped PKRIs. If their opposition can drag the fight beyond 6EST successfully, they're going to be picking up the win. GMT clans can counter by dominating in capped PKRIs but that, alas, will not successfully allow them to enter the top 10.

2. Do you think that a GMT clan is ever going to make it into the top 3/5?

 

No. There may be GMT leaders in the top 3/5 but no clan will make it without a solid amount of Americans in their clan. DI had a lot of GMT members but they also had plenty of Americans to allow them strength in longer fights.

 

3. Is there any one reason why EST clans seem to flourish so much more than their GMT counter parts?

 

EST clans can have more varied opposition by entering different timezones, mostly because fights start earlier for EST'ers yet they maintain the capability to go later. This allows them to keep members motivated with different opponents and more variety.

4. Why aren't the majority of clans GMT based, and as such why are most wars not fought at a time that is more suitable to GMTers?

 

More Americans are in clans? Furthermore, wars are very suitable for GMT'ers. I'm in a GMT/EST-based clan yet if I was American, I would be extremely inactive. The war times allow me to spend my day outside yet maintain activity in the clan. It works well.

i agree there is a lack of gmt clans and it would benefit the clan world although i disagree a lot with your top 10 listing there

As has been mentioned already... GMT is 5 hours behind EST which is the core timezone of most of the clans you've put in your top 10 list so in uncapped run ins, which is what people's top 10 lists are generally based on, they are not competitive. If fights started at say 4pm GMT/11am EST then it might be a very different story.

wont use the form but.

 

GMT clans barely go out to the EST timezone. Especially cause the clans you mentioned, LDK is GMT+2, TR and TRWF is mainly GMT+1 which means even bigger time difference.

 

The rest is pretty much what Lovelost said.

Although im in a GMT clan, I'm also in an EST based team which is the best combination for me as their events are never at the same time.

All of those clans have ground in Gmt now, Speaking for DF we pk in Gmt time zone all the time. Being a "Gmt'' Clan is just admitting to having a weakness in my opinion. Alot of people considered TT to be a Gmt clan not to long ago but because they stepped out of their comfort zone and pked into a more variation of timezones, They changed. Which was a good change for them considering their current position.

 

Clans shouldnt stick to one timezone, even if it isnt your ''strength''. Venture out, find new clans to fight at different times. As for them being considered top 3/5 well that's i think impossible being a Gmt clan they wouldnt be doing uncapped and strength in capped fights might get you to top 7, like Rj but in order to move on you'll have to be willing to do uncapped fights that might drag out here and there.

By GMT clans, I'm assuming you mean European clans as you include LDK who are Lithuanian, and Fools/RKoF who are from Finland and which timezones are GMT+1/GMT+2, etc. I have a different opinion, I don't think there are a shortage of GMT clans. It's just that these clans aren't recognised so much because they pull less people. I could name all the GMT/European based clans I know now and there will only be a handful more in the EST-based timezone (lets not forget the USA has 4 timezones). It's just that so many people have made teams from the EST based timezones which makes the overall comparison look a lot different. However, there have been big name casualties like 2M, RDC, LF but these clans have made Lowlands and LDK. So overall, I think the amount of players in clanning from the GMT timezones is decreasing but there are really plenty of clans to choose from, but none who're high ranked except for The Rising, LDK and TRWF.

The problem with GMT clans is they're very specific about when they'll fight. By the standards by which people judge these things if you can fight a 10 hour PKRI at any time of day you can't be a Top 10 clan. GMT clans are quite good but when another clan just drag it out past the time GMT clans have their numbers they can't compete on the same level.

Timezone, that is all

 

the Top 10 list is based on uncapped fights nowadays, EST clans will always have a massive advantage in uncapped fights as they can simply outlast, if need be, a few hours till it gets too late for GMTers to keep the numbers

 

GMT clans have good organisation, I daresay better than most EST clans their size and when it comes to man for man situations on even numbers, shows the quality

 

Also some say GMT clans don't fight outside their comfort zone, yet I still don't see many EST clans stepping out of theirs to fight Aussie clans either and you still expect GMT clans to fight at 11pm GMT onwards lol

 

Fighting at 4pm is a different story than fighting at 11pm aswell ;)

1. Why is there such a distinct lack of GMT clans in the top 10?

They only fight in their timezone which makes it difficult for them to fight other top clans who fight GMT+EST.

 

2. Do you think that a GMT clan is ever going to make it into the top 3/5?

No. They're timezone limits them too much.

 

3. Is there any one reason why EST clans seem to flourish so much more than their GMT counter parts?

They have both EST+GMT members making them more versatile.

 

4. Why aren't the majority of clans GMT based, and as such why are most wars not fought at a time that is more suitable to GMTers?

The clan world is more EST based so clans are EST based and not GMT based.

1. Why is there such a distinct lack of GMT clans in the top 10?

They only fight in their timezone which makes it difficult for them to fight other top clans who fight GMT+EST.

 

2. Do you think that a GMT clan is ever going to make it into the top 3/5?

No. They're timezone limits them too much.

 

3. Is there any one reason why EST clans seem to flourish so much more than their GMT counter parts?

They have both EST+GMT members making them more versatile.

 

4. Why aren't the majority of clans GMT based, and as such why are most wars not fought at a time that is more suitable to GMTers?

The clan world is more EST based so clans are EST based and not GMT based.

This, And to answer someone's question about "I don't know why GMT people join Est based clans", It's because all the Est based clans have more of a chance of being/breaking into/in the top 10, And that in itself an attraction for them to join over being in an GMT clan, But for those who can't war in Est time zones then there the ones who join GMT clans.

EST > GMT but i got GMT friends and they own so ye ;p

1. Why is there such a distinct lack of GMT clans in the top 10? The clanworld focusses on EST clans.

 

2. Do you think that a GMT clan is ever going to make it into the top 3/5? Not with the current idea of ranking clans no. GMT clans however can compete with the top clans in their timezone, but they will end up being outlasted.

 

3. Is there any one reason why EST clans seem to flourish so much more than their GMT counter parts? Even though they're getting wrecked by a GMT clan, they know that if they keep it up long enough they can 'win' and outlast all GMT clans.

 

4. Why aren't the majority of clans GMT based, and as such why are most wars not fought at a time that is more suitable to GMTers? Never really had a problem with this in TRWF. We got plenty of action.

Its really all about timezones. The dominate timezone is est, everything is pretty much based off it. The top ten is usually based off uncapped pkri's and since gmters are 5 hours ahead of est they just cant compete with a lot of people. They might of the organization/numbers to compete but once it gets to like 6-7 est they would start losing numbers.

 

Est clans are better off then gmt clans because a lot of gmters join est clans but not a lot of esters join gmt clan because of many reasons. Could be language, time issues, etc. etc. There are more est clans because theres more people that are est clanning. There are enough gmt clans where they can fight regularly just most people just don't notice them fighting since it's earlier in the day.

PvP PKRIs are all based around who has more ending ops, and EST clans can simply outlast GMT clans until they all have to go to sleep and claim victory. Since the top 10 is who can win in a Uncapped PKRI or something very similar, GMT clans don't stand much of a chance - they need to rely on time caps.

1. Why is there such a distinct lack of GMT clans in the top 10? well, not really, I mean some of the clans u posted as top 10 are GMT too.

 

2. Do you think that a GMT clan is ever going to make it into the top 3/5? Ofcourse

 

3. Is there any one reason why EST clans seem to flourish so much more than their GMT counter parts? I disagree, but maybe because there are more population in EST timezone.

 

4. Why aren't the majority of clans GMT based, and as such why are most wars not fought at a time that is more suitable to GMTers? U think that's bad, go check out Aussie timeZOne lol..

1. Why is there such a distinct lack of GMT clans in the top 10? Throughout the year, clanworld has more and more focused on EST clans

 

2. Do you think that a GMT clan is ever going to make it into the top 3/5? I think CE, LDK and Fools come pretty close. TR is rushing into the top 10 too, so why not?

 

3. Is there any one reason why EST clans seem to flourish so much more than their GMT counter parts? They have both EST and GMT members.

 

4. Why aren't the majority of clans GMT based, and as such why are most wars not fought at a time that is more suitable to GMTers? Because most of the scapers are from America I guess, or Canada. If you would set up a war for 3pm GMT, that would be 10 AM. Timedifference is just too big ;)

There's a lack of GMT clans for the same reason that there's a lack of Aussie clans, timezone. GMTers are often 5-7 hours ahead of the American clans, and now that fights are about returning, no one wants to stay up until 8am every time a long fight breaks out, or even 3am. Timezone limits the GMT clans, which is why large amounts of GMT members join clans like EOS, DF, VR, etc.

2M was #2 and we where gmt?? sup?>??

1. Why is there such a distinct lack of GMT clans in the top 10?

people usually rank Tr in the top 10 so Rj+ldk+TR is a good chunk of gmt clans

 

2. Do you think that a GMT clan is ever going to make it into the top 3/5?

no, they will never really be able to get that many members and compete for more than 3ish hour caps

 

3. Is there any one reason why EST clans seem to flourish so much more than their GMT counter parts?

yes, they get people from gmt+est+pacific so in fights its easier for them to maintain numbers

 

4. Why aren't the majority of clans GMT based, and as such why are most wars not fought at a time that is more suitable to GMTers?

because most of the players that play are american and we do go out of our way to fight gmt clans such as wars starting at 3 est on sundays

Makes me wonder: to make fights fair: why not start 3 hours earlier?

 

Really it's just stupid A GMT - BASED GAME focusses so much on those from the USA. They should be proud of where they live and focus on GB! (They even hinted next event would be at the USA, which is quite stupid and a waste of money/honour to get outside the country you live for an event OTHERS want you for).