01-Sep-10 - Behind The Scenes - September

[Jolletzu]

Gl getting ice stryke task

[PenguinsLoose]

I wonder if we'll be required to kill Jad for the Karamja Elite Diary? Or will this bring back the whole Fire Cape for Ice Wyrms argument again? Either way I'm really looking forward to these even though I probably wont meet any of the requirements. Gives me some nice high level content to aim for :thumbup:

 

Yes it will. I have 99 slayer, but can't get a Ice Wyrms task because I don't have a worthless Fire Cape. And I don't have 2,000 Slayer points because I got almost all my Slayer xp before the points system was introduced. So, if I must get a Ice Wyrms task, I will need to either get a Fire Cape ( which ain't gonna happen ) or continue to train a skill in which I already have a level of 99.

 

If getting an Ice Wyrms task, or killing an Ice Wyrms will be the elite task requirement, this is a one-off from the achievement diaries' tasks. The tasks have generally been about skill achievements, not content achievements. Being required to kill an Ice Wyrm would be the same as being required to enter the level 75 Dungeoneering Cave while wearing full Void, which is only partially about the skill of Dungeoneering. Being required to kill an Ice Wyrms, as opposed to just having 93 Slayer, would make about as much sense as being required to fish a shark while wearing a blue phat.

[Obtaurian]

I wonder if we'll be required to kill Jad for the Karamja Elite Diary? Or will this bring back the whole Fire Cape for Ice Wyrms argument again? Either way I'm really looking forward to these even though I probably wont meet any of the requirements. Gives me some nice high level content to aim for :thumbup:

 

Yes it will. I have 99 slayer, but can't get a Ice Wyrms task because I don't have a worthless Fire Cape. And I don't have 2,000 Slayer points because I got almost all my Slayer xp before the points system was introduced. So, if I must get a Ice Wyrms task, I will need to either get a Fire Cape ( which ain't gonna happen ) or continue to train a skill in which I already have a level of 99.

 

If getting an Ice Wyrms task, or killing an Ice Wyrms will be the elite task requirement, this is a one-off from the achievement diaries' tasks. The tasks have generally been about skill achievements, not content achievements. Being required to kill an Ice Wyrm would be the same as being required to enter the level 75 Dungeoneering Cave while wearing full Void, which is only partially about the skill of Dungeoneering. Being required to kill an Ice Wyrms, as opposed to just having 93 Slayer, would make about as much sense as being required to fish a shark while wearing a blue phat.

 

Your comparison would make sense if blue party hats required a fishing level to wear. Seeing as how ice wyrms are a SLAYER monster with a SLAYER LEVEL requirement, slaying an ice wyrm for the diary makes plenty of sense. Don't want a fire cape? You got your compromise in the form of 2,000 slayer points, so quit complaining and start slaying. Why get 99 in a skill you don't like, anyway? That makes far less sense than what you're complaining about.

[Toad]

*loiters around for diary*

 

At above post, Karamja elite diary will probably require Jad to be killed ;)

[PenguinsLoose]

I wonder if we'll be required to kill Jad for the Karamja Elite Diary? Or will this bring back the whole Fire Cape for Ice Wyrms argument again? Either way I'm really looking forward to these even though I probably wont meet any of the requirements. Gives me some nice high level content to aim for :thumbup:

 

Yes it will. I have 99 slayer, but can't get a Ice Wyrms task because I don't have a worthless Fire Cape. And I don't have 2,000 Slayer points because I got almost all my Slayer xp before the points system was introduced. So, if I must get a Ice Wyrms task, I will need to either get a Fire Cape ( which ain't gonna happen ) or continue to train a skill in which I already have a level of 99.

 

If getting an Ice Wyrms task, or killing an Ice Wyrms will be the elite task requirement, this is a one-off from the achievement diaries' tasks. The tasks have generally been about skill achievements, not content achievements. Being required to kill an Ice Wyrm would be the same as being required to enter the level 75 Dungeoneering Cave while wearing full Void, which is only partially about the skill of Dungeoneering. Being required to kill an Ice Wyrms, as opposed to just having 93 Slayer, would make about as much sense as being required to fish a shark while wearing a blue phat.

 

Your comparison would make sense if blue party hats required a fishing level to wear. Seeing as how ice wyrms are a SLAYER monster with a SLAYER LEVEL requirement, slaying an ice wyrm for the diary makes plenty of sense. Don't want a fire cape? You got your compromise in the form of 2,000 slayer points, so quit complaining and start slaying. Why get 99 in a skill you don't like, anyway? That makes far less sense than what you're complaining about.

 

Could someone point out to me just where it was exactly that I said that I do not like Slayer? I don't see it, do you see it? The problem with these forums is that people make up your response out of their own head, and them complain about what they think or wanted you to say, not what you actually did say.

 

My comparison makes perfect sense. A Fire Cape is not a requirement of 93 Slayer. So, even with 99 Slayer ( one of my favorite skills by the way ) I may not be able to meet a 93 Slayer level achievement diary task. So, being required to kill an Ice Wyrm is a combination of a skill and an activity. If you look at the previous tasks in the diaries, they were generally just one skill, not a combination of things. So, my point, that it is a one-off, is completely valid.

 

If one of the achievement dairies tasks was to smith a rune plate body, but only in the level 80 Resource Dungeon, I think that some of the level 99 Smithers might have a few comments on that. But, they should just shut-up and start training Dungeoneering I guess.

 

If you point out an inconsistency within the game, you are complaining. If you say that you would rather not train a skill in which you are already level 99, you are hating the skill. If you expose the continuing Fire Cape hegemony, you are whining.

[SirHartlar]

I wonder if we'll be required to kill Jad for the Karamja Elite Diary? Or will this bring back the whole Fire Cape for Ice Wyrms argument again? Either way I'm really looking forward to these even though I probably wont meet any of the requirements. Gives me some nice high level content to aim for :thumbup:

 

Yes it will. I have 99 slayer, but can't get a Ice Wyrms task because I don't have a worthless Fire Cape. And I don't have 2,000 Slayer points because I got almost all my Slayer xp before the points system was introduced. So, if I must get a Ice Wyrms task, I will need to either get a Fire Cape ( which ain't gonna happen ) or continue to train a skill in which I already have a level of 99.

 

If getting an Ice Wyrms task, or killing an Ice Wyrms will be the elite task requirement, this is a one-off from the achievement diaries' tasks. The tasks have generally been about skill achievements, not content achievements. Being required to kill an Ice Wyrm would be the same as being required to enter the level 75 Dungeoneering Cave while wearing full Void, which is only partially about the skill of Dungeoneering. Being required to kill an Ice Wyrms, as opposed to just having 93 Slayer, would make about as much sense as being required to fish a shark while wearing a blue phat.

 

Your comparison would make sense if blue party hats required a fishing level to wear. Seeing as how ice wyrms are a SLAYER monster with a SLAYER LEVEL requirement, slaying an ice wyrm for the diary makes plenty of sense. Don't want a fire cape? You got your compromise in the form of 2,000 slayer points, so quit complaining and start slaying. Why get 99 in a skill you don't like, anyway? That makes far less sense than what you're complaining about.

 

Could someone point out to me just where it was exactly that I said that I do not like Slayer? I don't see it, do you see it? The problem with these forums is that people make up your response out of their own head, and them complain about what they think or wanted you to say, not what you actually did say.

 

My comparison makes perfect sense. A Fire Cape is not a requirement of 93 Slayer. So, even with 99 Slayer ( one of my favorite skills by the way ) I may not be able to meet a 93 Slayer level achievement diary task. So, being required to kill an Ice Wyrm is a combination of a skill and an activity. If you look at the previous tasks in the diaries, they were generally just one skill, not a combination of things. So, my point, that it is a one-off, is completely valid.

 

If one of the achievement dairies tasks was to smith a rune plate body, but only in the level 80 Resource Dungeon, I think that some of the level 99 Smithers might have a few comments on that. But, they should just shut-up and start training Dungeoneering I guess.

 

If you point out an inconsistency within the game, you are complaining. If you say that you would rather not train a skill in which you are already level 99, you are hating the skill. If you expose the continuing Fire Cape hegemony, you are whining.

 

You don't have to use a firecape? The task would only require Slayer because you can get a Stryewyrm task simply by using points to unlock the ability to attack them without a cape. That doesn't have a combination of multiple components, it is purely slayer.

[Bladewing]

Don't worry, you'll be getting a fire cape from doing karamja elite.

[Obtaurian]

Could someone point out to me just where it was exactly that I said that I do not like Slayer? I don't see it, do you see it? The problem with these forums is that people make up your response out of their own head, and them complain about what they think or wanted you to say, not what you actually did say.

 

That fact that you're reluctant to train slayer beyond 99 says as much.

 

My comparison makes perfect sense. A Fire Cape is not a requirement of 93 Slayer. So, even with 99 Slayer ( one of my favorite skills by the way ) I may not be able to meet a 93 Slayer level achievement diary task. So, being required to kill an Ice Wyrm is a combination of a skill and an activity. If you look at the previous tasks in the diaries, they were generally just one skill, not a combination of things. So, my point, that it is a one-off, is completely valid.

 

Very good point! In fact, I vaguely remember something about this . . . I think it was the huge uproar on the RSOF and these forums over the fire cape requirement, because of which the 2,000 slayer point alternative was implemented. Don't want to get a fire cape? Get 2,000 slayer points. Those are your options, regardless of how much you whine and cry about it.

 

If one of the achievement dairies tasks was to smith a rune plate body, but only in the level 80 Resource Dungeon, I think that some of the level 99 Smithers might have a few comments on that. But, they should just shut-up and start training Dungeoneering I guess.

 

Not an applicable comparison for reasons explained above.

 

If you point out an inconsistency within the game, you are complaining. If you say that you would rather not train a skill in which you are already level 99, you are hating the skill. If you expose the continuing Fire Cape hegemony, you are whining.

 

Well, I certainly agree that you're whining.

[PenguinsLoose]

Could someone point out to me just where it was exactly that I said that I do not like Slayer? I don't see it, do you see it? The problem with these forums is that people make up your response out of their own head, and them complain about what they think or wanted you to say, not what you actually did say.

 

That fact that you're reluctant to train slayer beyond 99 says as much.

 

 

What a bizarre claim. There is another explanation. Even liking Slayer, I may want to level up other skills in which I have yet to reach 99, knowing that those skills would be of benefit in the game. Under your logic, any skill that is not being actively trained, for whatever reason, is a hated skill. If you are training fishing, that means that you hate or, at least, dislike, all other skills.

 

So, the fact that I would rather watch the basketball game instead of the football game proves that I hate football. The fact that I chose to go to Movie A instead of Movie B proves that I hate Movie B.

 

According to your logic, saying I do like Slayer, but for my overall enjoyment of the game, I would rather focus my time on other lower-leveled skills is the same as saying, I hate Slayer. So weird. So wrong.

[xpx]

Penguin, we can all see the point you are making, but you are being way too stubborn about it and putting forth terrible examples. But the part i don't understand is this: why can't the task be to finish fight caves AND kill an ice strykewrym? For karamja elite you are likely to have to kill jad anyway, and just like you with slayer points, everyone who already owns a fire cape also gets shafted(as they have to do it again). If you can't defeat jad or get 2k slayer points, you really don't deserve to complete the diary.

[Obtaurian]

Could someone point out to me just where it was exactly that I said that I do not like Slayer? I don't see it, do you see it? The problem with these forums is that people make up your response out of their own head, and them complain about what they think or wanted you to say, not what you actually did say.

 

That fact that you're reluctant to train slayer beyond 99 says as much.

 

 

What a bizarre claim. There is another explanation. Even liking Slayer, I may want to level up other skills in which I have yet to reach 99, knowing that those skills would be of benefit in the game. Under your logic, any skill that is not being actively trained, for whatever reason, is a hated skill. If you are training fishing, that means that you hate or, at least, dislike, all other skills.

 

So, the fact that I would rather watch the basketball game instead of the football game proves that I hate football. The fact that I chose to go to Movie A instead of Movie B proves that I hate Movie B.

 

According to your logic, saying “I do like Slayer, but for my overall enjoyment of the game, I would rather focus my time on other lower-leveled skills” is the same as saying, “I hate Slayer.” So weird. So wrong.

 

Interesting analysis of my psyche. It's inaccurate, but certainly interesting. So can I assume that you agree with me on the fire cape issue? Your entire post was directed at the most insignificant comment in my post, so I can only assume that you found my actual arguments to be sound.

[Toad]

I've just knocked down my Ice stryke task to 2 to go (incase there's a bug or something the one is safety).

 

Planted 5 Magic & Palm Trees and of course a Calquat.

 

2K slayer points to skip tasks for a Jad one, I'm fussy over tasks anyway, I have 13 Firecapes left (lost a few at corp (yay for random events running back), should be a routine firecape, rapier till half health, claw the rest - nom nom nom!

 

BRING ON THE DIARIES!

[langer]

Sadly PenguinsLoose, having high skills does not make you elite. It just means you have a lot of XP in a skill. Before Kuradal was introduced, you could only kill them after at least starting ME. It meant you need an agility level of 56 to kill them. Skill synergy like that has always been a part of RS. Pures cannot complain that they get destroy when boss hunting because their defense is too low because they choose not to train their def. The way I see it, you are not willing to kill Jad or get 2000 slayer points to unlock ice wyrms... how can you complain then?

[Den]

I wonder if we'll be required to kill Jad for the Karamja Elite Diary? Or will this bring back the whole Fire Cape for Ice Wyrms argument again? Either way I'm really looking forward to these even though I probably wont meet any of the requirements. Gives me some nice high level content to aim for :thumbup:

 

Oh, please no. Getting one fire cape was bad enough. I dont want to do it again. ;_;

[Michael]

I wonder if we'll be required to kill Jad for the Karamja Elite Diary? Or will this bring back the whole Fire Cape for Ice Wyrms argument again? Either way I'm really looking forward to these even though I probably wont meet any of the requirements. Gives me some nice high level content to aim for :thumbup:

 

Oh, please no. Getting one fire cape was bad enough. I dont want to do it again. ;_;

 

I don't know if I have enough effort to kill Jad again, it's been a while since the first time.

[Obtaurian]

I wonder if we'll be required to kill Jad for the Karamja Elite Diary? Or will this bring back the whole Fire Cape for Ice Wyrms argument again? Either way I'm really looking forward to these even though I probably wont meet any of the requirements. Gives me some nice high level content to aim for :thumbup:

 

Oh, please no. Getting one fire cape was bad enough. I dont want to do it again. ;_;

 

I don't know if I have enough effort to kill Jad again, it's been a while since the first time.

 

With overloads and a chaotic weapon, it's pretty easy to get through the entire caves in less than 40 minutes. ;)

[Den]

With overloads and a chaotic weapon, it's pretty easy to get through the entire caves in less than 40 minutes. ;)

 

I have no chaotic weapon. :P

[Bladewing]

I did it in under 45 with a whip.

[Toad]

I wonder if we'll be required to kill Jad for the Karamja Elite Diary? Or will this bring back the whole Fire Cape for Ice Wyrms argument again? Either way I'm really looking forward to these even though I probably wont meet any of the requirements. Gives me some nice high level content to aim for :thumbup:

 

Oh, please no. Getting one fire cape was bad enough. I dont want to do it again. ;_;

 

I don't know if I have enough effort to kill Jad again, it's been a while since the first time.

 

With overloads and a chaotic weapon, it's pretty easy to get through the entire caves in less than 40 minutes. ;)

 

I love that task :)

[Maximusa]

Errgh dont speculate about killing Jad again.

 

Attempted it once many years ago. Killed him once. Never wanna do it again. -.-

 

Also banked the cape and never used it (But I had it!) until ice wyrms lol.

 

By all means bring on the Ice Wyrms task. Easy enough. But not Jad and all those waves after waves.. :shock:

 

Should be proof enough im leet from owning the cape right. :shame:

 

I know there are overloads and chaotics etc now but Ergh.

[Troacctid]

I wonder if we'll be required to kill Jad for the Karamja Elite Diary? Or will this bring back the whole Fire Cape for Ice Wyrms argument again? Either way I'm really looking forward to these even though I probably wont meet any of the requirements. Gives me some nice high level content to aim for :thumbup:

 

Oh, please no. Getting one fire cape was bad enough. I dont want to do it again. ;_;

"Do X while wearing a fire cape."

[Den]

I wonder if we'll be required to kill Jad for the Karamja Elite Diary? Or will this bring back the whole Fire Cape for Ice Wyrms argument again? Either way I'm really looking forward to these even though I probably wont meet any of the requirements. Gives me some nice high level content to aim for :thumbup:

 

Oh, please no. Getting one fire cape was bad enough. I dont want to do it again. ;_;

"Do X while wearing a fire cape."

 

Now that I can do. :P

[Carl]

The only thing I'm looking forward to is being able to customise the colour of the clan chat that I'm in. Due to being colour blind; red really doesn't work well for me -- I tend to play in Standard Detail due to that when I'm focused on a Clan Chat. Very exciting! :)

[1337_Byte]

Romeo and Juliet was a fun quest, the one they're replacing it with sounds [developmentally delayed]ed.

Nah, R&J was lame. Just a boring fetch quest.

The story was good, and it had some funny cutscenes.

[Soma2035]

I wonder if we'll be required to kill Jad for the Karamja Elite Diary? Or will this bring back the whole Fire Cape for Ice Wyrms argument again? Either way I'm really looking forward to these even though I probably wont meet any of the requirements. Gives me some nice high level content to aim for :thumbup:

 

Oh, please no. Getting one fire cape was bad enough. I dont want to do it again. ;_;

"Do X while wearing a fire cape."

 

"Kill Jad while wearing a Fire Cape."

 

:P