September 16, 201015 yr I suppose the other thing I'd do with Jagex is just flood the market with bogus bot sites and people offering to make bots, which would break down the trust between bot makers and customers. ~ W ~
September 16, 201015 yr What makes me upset is people go these lengths to cheat at an online game... I only wonder what the programmers of these bots could do if they applied their knowledge to something usefull.....Most of the scripters are still kids
September 16, 201015 yr You know, what I would really love to create is an "antillegence" bot: by using ant-behaviour for pathfinding one could actually search dynamically for good. (Ants wander -in basic- randomly, then when they find a resource they return to home following the path they wandered.. leaving a feromone spore in their trail. Now new ants are more likely to follow the feromone spore yet may still wander. Each ant increases the strength of the trail (and the trail weakens by time). This means that the trail which can handle most ants a second (which is the shortest) becomes gets more and more ants on it.It would be a really interesting thing to see this happening in a world such as runescape (sadly it's not allowed). but I guess this isn't the place to discuss this. First they came to fishingand I didn't speak out because I wasn't fishing Then they came to the yewsand I didn't speak out because I didn't cut yews Then they came for the oresand I didn't speak out because I didn't collect ores Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak out for me.
September 16, 201015 yr You know, what I would really love to create is an "antillegence" bot: by using ant-behaviour for pathfinding one could actually search dynamically for good. (Ants wander -in basic- randomly, then when they find a resource they return to home following the path they wandered.. leaving a feromone spore in their trail. Now new ants are more likely to follow the feromone spore yet may still wander. Each ant increases the strength of the trail (and the trail weakens by time). This means that the trail which can handle most ants a second (which is the shortest) becomes gets more and more ants on it.It would be a really interesting thing to see this happening in a world such as runescape (sadly it's not allowed). but I guess this isn't the place to discuss this.The paid bots already have this :thumbup:
September 17, 201015 yr I like that idea with the "ban them while they're stuck in one place". jagex can move objects around once a month and the sweep the worlds banning those who are standing around with no interaction with the game whatsoever. This part is a stretch: If someone gets wrongly banned, Jagex looks at their appeal PERSONALLY and hears out each case. Now that rwt is pretty much gone, booting is the next biggest offense and they should consider each appeal case carefully, and even use the runetracker.org to see if their exp gains are "off the charts" ~ 3,072nd to 99 Mining on August 30th, 2009 ~~ 112,084th to 99 Magic on April 16th, 2011 ~~ 131,681st to 99 Crafting on March 29, 2019 ~~ 178,385th to 99 Prayer on April 2, 2019 ~~ 234,921st to 99 Defence on May 9, 2019 ~~ 173,480th to 99 Herblore on June 21, 2019 ~~ 155,160th to 99 Smithing on July 16, 2019 ~
September 17, 201015 yr If someone gets wrongly banned, Jagex looks at their appeal PERSONALLY and hears out each case. Now that rwt is pretty much gone, booting is the next biggest offense and they should consider each appeal case carefully, and even use the runetracker.org to see if their exp gains are "off the charts"Not everyone has a life outside of rs.Jagex never has and never will read macro appeals.
September 17, 201015 yr It depends on the point of view. I don't use the bots to play. I just make them for fun (in other words I NEVER use them to gain anything from the game. the longest run of a script I've ever had is a 30 minutes to test a nature runes bot, who runes PURELY ON COLORS ... ). For the second part. You don't need a lot of time to learn how to make a bot ... so the people who made most of the bots wouldn't help a lot to save the world <_<They charge for these bots you see. [hide=Drops]Araxxor Eye x1 Leg pieces x2GWD: 5000 Addy bar Steam B Staff x3 Z Spear x6 Sara. Hilt x2 Bandos Hilt x2 (LS, Solo)SS x6 (1 LS)Tormented Demons: Shard x6 Slice x5 Claws x9 Limbs x3DKS: Archer x21 Warrior x31 Berserker x30 Axe x51[/hide]
September 17, 201015 yr Also I expect some powerminers/whatevers probably have a very simple small dropping script, no normal person would drop exactly the same way time on time again while I expect bots to do.Give me 30 minutes and I'll make a bot with human-like mouse movement and at least 1000000 variations of a drop ...Bots certainly cannot be stopped, but making their "life" harder is fun indeed :twisted:counter started!already started??
September 17, 201015 yr Some use client hooks to get ID's then use advanced mouse motion algorithms and mechanisms to determine where to click and can click via ID of objects. Color bots and ghost mouse are very detectable.I wrote one of those earlier. Wait.. Er.. I mean. And I wrote a function to produce realistic mouse movements to go with it. ^^. Of course.. Not for botting RS. ;P
September 17, 201015 yr Surely It doesn't matter how random the mouse movements are? Doesn't runescape only log the click location? If so then having a realistic human-like mouse movement but a repeated click would still show as botting Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12
September 17, 201015 yr Then randomize the click location. ;)Which is what i'm sure the bots do. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12
September 17, 201015 yr Surely It doesn't matter how random the mouse movements are? Doesn't runescape only log the click location? If so then having a realistic human-like mouse movement but a repeated click would still show as bottingIf you move the mouse the 5 minute logoff timer resets .. so I'm pretty sure the game detects the mouse movement.
September 17, 201015 yr Offcourse it does, if you keep your mouse above a skill you also see how many xp you got and if you keep it above a monster you also see what lvl it is and stuff in the corner left above.
September 17, 201015 yr Surely It doesn't matter how random the mouse movements are? Doesn't runescape only log the click location? If so then having a realistic human-like mouse movement but a repeated click would still show as bottingIf you move the mouse the 5 minute logoff timer resets .. so I'm pretty sure the game detects the mouse movement.Oh I didn't know that. I've always used the arrow keys to turn the camera angle Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12
September 17, 201015 yr They are back again aren't they? :(they never left, they just got reduced. [hide=Siggy credits]The Awesome, Epic, Amazing, S3xah A-10 Sig By Unolexi! I wub u Uno!InsanityV2 Did the Franz Ferdinand Sig.Killerwatt is responsible for the Arctic Monkeys sig.Pat_61 did the B-2 sig and the raptor sig.[/hide]
September 17, 201015 yr Yeah lets totally make another topic about bots and give them more attention. ooh eeh ooh ahah, ting tang wallawallabingbang m8
September 17, 201015 yr They are back again aren't they? :(they never left, they just got reduced. Not all bots were affected by this update, just the most popular ones. And they will be back, I'm sure. Guide - How To Prepare For (And profit From) Free Trade & the Return of the Wilderness2.17B Total Wealth ~ The Original Grand Exchange Merchant
September 18, 201015 yr Surely It doesn't matter how random the mouse movements are? Doesn't runescape only log the click location? If so then having a realistic human-like mouse movement but a repeated click would still show as bottingIf you move the mouse the 5 minute logoff timer resets .. so I'm pretty sure the game detects the mouse movement.Oh I didn't know that. I've always used the arrow keys to turn the camera angleI don't know if I'm unaware or something, but I thought that arrow keys are only way to turn the camera angle.Other than that, I agree with LCooL. My Blog of pure... Uhmm... Well... Something...Proud owner of Quest Cape, achieved 05.08.200829062th to Woodcutting 99, 02.05.2009
September 18, 201015 yr If you click at the compass the camera sets at center (left/right) and at the lowest possible position but I don't think this counts .. btw there is one spot at barbarian fishing which acts as anti-bot measures :D it's unreachable ... there are at least 2-3 people everytime I fish which are just .. stuck in there waiting for it to move :D
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