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If they spell out derogatory comments in a way that would be filted (should you choose to keep it on) it is not against the rules. Should you take off your filter, then deal with the consequences of your decision.
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I see. So, you think I should just toggle the filter to "off" and let those people who hurl derogatory remarks at me go unchallenged?

Tell me -- do you think racism is a behavioural or inherited human trait?

Just wondering ...

This would be a good time to step down and let the thread die. Making a fool of yourself tbh :shame:


You're both evading my question:

Do you think other people learn racism because they see other people commit racist acts, or are they genetically oriented towards racist acts?

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Don't like 'bad' words? Turn the filter on.
You don't mind? Turn it off.
Report people who are offensive.

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Bad words can be used legitimately. Why should I turn on a filter which not only blocks "bad" words used in context but also regular dictionary words just because they or a part of it looks/sound like a possible swear? I stand by that the main 4 letter swear should still be blocked.

then leave your filter on

ain't hard, folks.


The question isn't whether or not to leave the filter on/off -- the question is whether or not I should report someone for saying: "[Perform a sexually degrading act on me, you female individual product of inter-racial heritage] ..."
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How did the situation change now that there is an option to turn off the filter? Saying offensive things is still against the rules.

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Your scope and vision is particularly narrow and self-centered. You think that the world is easily ignored and has no bearing on you or the people around you, except for those aspects that you demand are of importance.

You've never had anyone make a comment about your gender, and then follow it up with an aggressive gesture that you found physically threatening.

You've never had anyone make a comment about your skin colour, and then follow it up with an aggressive gesture that you found physically threatening.

You're without a care in the world or a consideration for another person.

You're clearly male, single, young and white.


Look miss, you are calling for political correctness yet you keep proclaiming someones opinion is inferior to yours because of their marital status, gender and race, (and age but this one is the most warranted out of the list)

Can you finish this argument without attacking the the things that make him different from you? Can you argue the point without pointing out his race and gender? You are appearing to be the racist and sexist among us.


He asked me how his gender and race reflected his responses -- I provided him with an answer. Which part of *that* conversation did you miss?

... and you've evaded my question: Is racism inherited or learned? I await your reply please.

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Your scope and vision is particularly narrow and self-centered. You think that the world is easily ignored and has no bearing on you or the people around you, except for those aspects that you demand are of importance.

You've never had anyone make a comment about your gender, and then follow it up with an aggressive gesture that you found physically threatening.

You've never had anyone make a comment about your skin colour, and then follow it up with an aggressive gesture that you found physically threatening.

You're without a care in the world or a consideration for another person.

You're clearly male, single, young and white.


This is a game. Why so serious?
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Your scope and vision is particularly narrow and self-centered. You think that the world is easily ignored and has no bearing on you or the people around you, except for those aspects that you demand are of importance.

You've never had anyone make a comment about your gender, and then follow it up with an aggressive gesture that you found physically threatening.

You've never had anyone make a comment about your skin colour, and then follow it up with an aggressive gesture that you found physically threatening.

You're without a care in the world or a consideration for another person.

You're clearly male, single, young and white.


This is a game. Why so serious?

'Cause she's black, duh.

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If they spell out derogatory comments in a way that would be filted (should you choose to keep it on) it is not against the rules. Should you take off your filter, then deal with the consequences of your decision.
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I see. So, you think I should just toggle the filter to "off" and let those people who hurl derogatory remarks at me go unchallenged?

Tell me -- do you think racism is a behavioural or inherited human trait?

Just wondering ...

This would be a good time to step down and let the thread die. Making a fool of yourself tbh :shame:


You're both evading my question:

Do you think other people learn racism because they see other people commit racist acts, or are they genetically oriented towards racist acts?

1. Question was not directed at me, therefor i see no need to aswer it.
2. I honestly don't give a [cabbage] about racism. I need to life with it each day of my life and i'm still alive.

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Can we all refrain from hitting, please? Granted she provoked it, but I think some restraint is called for.
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Your scope and vision is particularly narrow and self-centered. You think that the world is easily ignored and has no bearing on you or the people around you, except for those aspects that you demand are of importance.

You've never had anyone make a comment about your gender, and then follow it up with an aggressive gesture that you found physically threatening.

You've never had anyone make a comment about your skin colour, and then follow it up with an aggressive gesture that you found physically threatening.

You're without a care in the world or a consideration for another person.

You're clearly male, single, young and white.


Look miss, you are calling for political correctness yet you keep proclaiming someones opinion is inferior to yours because of their marital status, gender and race, (and age but this one is the most warranted out of the list)

Can you finish this argument without attacking the the things that make him different from you? Can you argue the point without pointing out his race and gender? You are appearing to be the racist and sexist among us.


He asked me how his gender and race reflected his responses -- I provided him with an answer. Which part of *that* conversation did you miss?

... and you've evaded my question: Is racism inherited or learned? I await your reply please.


I am no Anthropologist so I cant answer under any real authority. I think some mix of both. I think even the most liberal minded people have a preference for their own race before others, however I think most people who werent raised in conditions of hate wont discriminate based off race.

I guess the full blown racism you are describing would come from a learned experience.

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@blyaunte: I swear, you remind me of amitoz. The question you're asking is nature or nurture, and the answer is never one or the other, but rather a mix of both.
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Blyaunte if I was you I would leave the filter to do its job and report any player that offends you. If you wanted to go further you could set public chat to friends as well as private. The measures are there, and have always been there, to help you.

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If they spell out derogatory comments in a way that would be filted (should you choose to keep it on) it is not against the rules. Should you take off your filter, then deal with the consequences of your decision.
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I see. So, you think I should just toggle the filter to "off" and let those people who hurl derogatory remarks at me go unchallenged?

Tell me -- do you think racism is a behavioural or inherited human trait?

Just wondering ...

This would be a good time to step down and let the thread die. Making a fool of yourself tbh :shame:


You're both evading my question:

Do you think other people learn racism because they see other people commit racist acts, or are they genetically oriented towards racist acts?



alright this is a fair point. but please reply to one of my posts fully because this whole thread is pissing me off n ur not even replying to meeee!!

i think other people do everything because of seeing other people doing it. but runescape cant stop it, or make any signifcant impact at all. i dunno, maybe this should be moved to off topic and renamed ? :unsure:

so maybe we should just drop it. (after you respond to my last 3 posts!!! :@)

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Now I just have to ask what your last 3 posts were >_<

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I think it is a step in the right direction.

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If you take anything said over the internet (and especially on a game) personally then LOL.
Really? They are probably ignorant 13 year olds. I really can't beleive anyone would take something like that to heart.


Let me guess -- you're a white male, with no children ...


That is kind of racist. And sexist.

Also, even if they are 13 year old, and stupid, it still hurts for most people. Some can look past it, others can not.

But as far as I know, if it is offensive, as in targeted against you, you report it.

If it is a random curse word thrown in to describe how large a fish is, then do not bother reporting it.
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Okay guys, let's just try not to drag race in here as a defining factor of why someone acts the way they do okay, i.e. let's not go into the whole nature versus nurture stuff please. Stick with the original topic.

If you wish to continue with your personal argument, take it off the thread and do it via PM the very least. Otherwise drop it. We have rules on these forums that ask that you please respect users for who they are regardless of gender, sexual orientation, race, religious beliefs, and so forth. This is an international community after all.

~~~On Topic~~~

If you personally have an issue with the new ability to turn off the filter, then don't turn it off and use the report button and ignore list if needed. No one is forcing you to turn it off. I understand that there will be people who will turn the filter off and throw a number of offensive words out there, including racial slurs. You are more than welcome to report them as it still falls under the offensive language rules set by Jagex. If you do not wish to tolerate any sort of foul language, keep the filter on. I'm Chinese and I'm female, and way before this update came about I was already getting racially and sexually driven insults. This is nothing new for me and I will continue to use the ignore and report buttons. Don't let the immature kids beat you up with words, and don't let your status victimize you.

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Something I don't think I have seen mentioned:

A lot of the "discussion" has been centered around "turn your filter on & you won't have to see the remarks". Obviously this is correct. But what about all the young, impressionable kids who will have their filters turned off and will see the offensive remarks? It is just not the recipients of the offensive remarks who would be effected.
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So if I say babuska, nignog, and [racist term] I can still get reported?
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Something I don't think I have seen mentioned:

A lot of the "discussion" has been centered around "turn your filter on & you won't have to see the remarks". Obviously this is correct. But what about all the young, impressionable kids who will have their filters turned off and will see the offensive remarks? It is just not the recipients of the offensive remarks who would be effected.


Jagex could have it so those that are required to have quick-chat (is it under 13 year olds?) can't turn the filter off. Over 13s will have heard it all before anyway, it's their parents responsibility to monitor what they do on the internet so I don't think it's Jagex problem.

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I guess the full blown racism you are describing would come from a learned experience.


So, if people "learn" racism (as well as possibly inherit some aspects of it), then why would anyone allow such acts to go unchallenged when it is within their power to affect change?

Do you honestly think that people should be allowed to make such degrading remarks about other people in front of impressionable minds and, therefore, continue the pattern of behaviour?

@blyaunte: I swear, you remind me of amitoz. The question you're asking is nature or nurture, and the answer is never one or the other, but rather a mix of both.


I agree – but then, how does one "counter" racism? Do we sit idly by and just allow it to happen because "it's just a game"?

i think other people do everything because of seeing other people doing it.


Then if we allow people to continue making racist remarks unchallenged, do you not by your silence condone their racism?

Blyaunte if I was you I would leave the filter to do its job and report any player that offends you. If you wanted to go further you could set public chat to friends as well as private. The measures are there, and have always been there, to help you.


That is the problem though. The filter is, technically, there to protect *my* sensibilities – but what about the sensibilities of other impressionable people?

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I guarantee though some people will not be able to handle this update and will probably abuse it.




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