mining + smithing

[Tenebri]

i am soon to start 99 mining 99 smithing (94 mining and 95 smith atm)

 

i was going to do superheat at lrc and i would get both 99 roughly same time (76k gold ore needed for both)

 

but now that addy plate making is now somehow very cheap 5 gp per 1 xp i heard,

 

would it be more efficient to mine + low alch + lava titan + urns + mining juju pot (i have 400 mining juju pots thanks to 99 hunter haha)

 

and then do 99 smith with addy plates (or vice versa)

[Th e Doctor]

Yes.

 

Inb4moved to efficient H&A subforum.

[nastyforinvi]

i am soon to start 99 mining 99 smithing (94 mining and 95 smith atm)

 

i was going to do superheat at lrc and i would get both 99 roughly same time (76k gold ore needed for both)

 

but now that addy plate making is now somehow very cheap 5 gp per 1 xp i heard,

 

would it be more efficient to mine + low alch + lava titan + urns + mining juju pot (i have 400 mining juju pots thanks to 99 hunter haha)

 

and then do 99 smith with addy plates (or vice versa)

Im not very familiar with LRC and what doesnt stop you from mining if low alch stops you from mining then lava titan+urns+juju pots+mouse key dropping is best

As far as the addy plate question much faster way to do smithing is what i currently have been doing they were as cheap as 2-3gp/xp without including wasteless smithing scrolls amount of bars saved.

[Tenebri]

Yes.

 

Inb4moved to efficient H&A subforum.

nice contribution :thumbup:

 

 

 

 

@ nastiforin

 

lrc you mine gold / coal (gold better obv) like trees you get more than 1 ore, and with low alch it doesn interfear with mining so when you alch you dont need to click the rock again to get another ore, you carry on mining and alching at same time

 

usually lrc + superheat i got 50k xp in mine / smith a hour (and mage but not matter)

 

low alching at lrc is around 70k xp a hour ( i hear) with urns + juju pots im sure it will be more

 

just wanting to know opinions on the matter

 

of time saved doing it with addy plate and mining with all that

 

than just mining and supeheating

 

if its a fair few hours then i may consider doing it with plates and then mine with pots urns alch, if its noy much then ill stay with superheat as its only like 10m loss

[Quyneax]

Well if it's 50k mining 50k smithing versus 70k mining 250k smithing, then of course doing plates + mining will be faster. Since 50/70 + 50/250 < 1.

 

But if you factor in cost, at 4 gp/xp you lose 1m per hour doing plates. Which means you need around 20 minutes per hour of plates to pay for them. E.g. 250k xp/80 minutes, 180k xp/hr approx. 50/70 + 50/180 =~ 1. So it wouldn't be that much of a difference, but yes, at 3m/hr or higher incomes plates + mining are more efficient.

 

That assumes the xp rates above & no costs for mining/superheating ofc. Juju mining pots should bank enough gold methinks.

[Tenebri]

Well if it's 50k mining 50k smithing versus 70k mining 250k smithing, then of course doing plates + mining will be faster. Since 50/70 + 50/250 < 1.

 

But if you factor in cost, at 4 gp/xp you lose 1m per hour doing plates. Which means you need around 20 minutes per hour of plates to pay for them. E.g. 250k xp/80 minutes, 180k xp/hr approx. 50/70 + 50/180 =~ 1. So it wouldn't be that much of a difference, but yes, at 3m/hr or higher incomes plates + mining are more efficient.

 

That assumes the xp rates above & no costs for mining/superheating ofc. Juju mining pots should bank enough gold methinks.

thank you very much with your maths haha

 

well considring its not much dif ill do a bit both and see which i prefer

[Th e Doctor]

Yes.

 

Inb4moved to efficient H&A subforum.

nice contribution :thumbup:

 

You asked a yes or no question. Yes its more efficient to make plates and low alch LRC with jujus and urns.

[Necromagus]

Towed to the appropriate subforum.

 

-Necromagus, Tip.It Mod.

[Lord Paul]

At 85 mining with juju, urns, lava titan, and low alching I can get 80k mining xp/hr. And that's without a dragon pick.

[Tenebri]

At 85 mining with juju, urns, lava titan, and low alching I can get 80k mining xp/hr. And that's without a dragon pick.

oooh thanks for the info

 

ive never tried it haha

[green9090]

low alching...without a dragon pick.

wat. So you're willing to spend money on low alchs but not invest money temporarily in 10-15% better exp? wat

[Lord Paul]

low alching...without a dragon pick.

wat. So you're willing to spend money on low alchs but not invest money temporarily in 10-15% better exp? wat

 

 

Haha, yeah I agree it looks quite silly.

I had an offer for a dragon pick in grand exchange when I did that test. I havn't been back with a dragon pick yet.

 

But after 99 smith, I'll head back there and find out what kind of difference a d pick makes.

[dukky]

It's best to superheat and drop as I do in this video, as it's the same xp/hour as low alching (90k+ with urns), but you get the smithing at no cost in time, so infinity xp/hour, compared to 250k xp/additional hour spent after mining, so it must be better to mine and superheat. Don't post on this efficiency forum if you don't know how to be efficient -.-

[Vulxai]

Don't post on this efficiency forum if you don't know how to be efficient -.-

 

That was really unnecessary, so please refrain from posting messages like this again.

 

As far as the question, if you're going to be mining at LRC anyways, it's best to superheat until you hit 99 mining, since you can superheat without interrupting the mining, last I checked, unless Jagex nerfed that.

[Tenebri]

Don't post on this efficiency forum if you don't know how to be efficient -.-

 

That was really unnecessary, so please refrain from posting messages like this again.

 

As far as the question, if you're going to be mining at LRC anyways, it's best to superheat until you hit 99 mining, since you can superheat without interrupting the mining, last I checked, unless Jagex nerfed that.

but as low alch means no banking = more xp in mining + juju pots + urns (which will be anoying to have in the inv while superheating (obv if your not alching) will make a huge difference

 

as if you low alch you can have a fair amount of urns and juju pots + pouches in inv due to low alching then ore making it a hell of alot faster in just mining, if low alch wasn tpossable then id obv go for superheat but because i needed just a few more bits of advice and i shall try baysiacly all the metods shown to see which bests suits me

 

and i appreciate all the advice haha helps me maxing faster :P

 

 

ooh

 

@dukky: thats awesome way of doing it i new people dropped bars but i didnt no precisly how they did it while superheating constantly so tyvm im sure if i am not busy on facebook forums etc i will do this 100%

[ldailey06]

Well if it's 50k mining 50k smithing versus 70k mining 250k smithing, then of course doing plates + mining will be faster. Since 50/70 + 50/250 < 1.

 

But if you factor in cost, at 4 gp/xp you lose 1m per hour doing plates. Which means you need around 20 minutes per hour of plates to pay for them. E.g. 250k xp/80 minutes, 180k xp/hr approx. 50/70 + 50/180 =~ 1. So it wouldn't be that much of a difference, but yes, at 3m/hr or higher incomes plates + mining are more efficient.

 

That assumes the xp rates above & no costs for mining/superheating ofc. Juju mining pots should bank enough gold methinks.

 

Remember at lrc you are getting mining and smithing xp at the same time. Smithing plates takes an extra hour.

with his number alching and making plates is 70k mining + 250k smithing per 2 1/3 hours

(1 hour to mine 1 hour to smith 20 minutes to make money)

which overall is

~30k mining + 107k smithing xp per hour @ 3m gp/hr

vs 50k mining xp 50k smithing xp per hour

 

if alching really increases your mining xp by 40% you should probably alch. That seems a little high though doesn't it.

[Cheefoo]

Just wondering... why low alch instead of high alch?

[Quyneax]

Well if it's 50k mining 50k smithing versus 70k mining 250k smithing, then of course doing plates + mining will be faster. Since 50/70 + 50/250 < 1.

 

But if you factor in cost, at 4 gp/xp you lose 1m per hour doing plates. Which means you need around 20 minutes per hour of plates to pay for them. E.g. 250k xp/80 minutes, 180k xp/hr approx. 50/70 + 50/180 =~ 1. So it wouldn't be that much of a difference, but yes, at 3m/hr or higher incomes plates + mining are more efficient.

 

That assumes the xp rates above & no costs for mining/superheating ofc. Juju mining pots should bank enough gold methinks.

 

Remember at lrc you are getting mining and smithing xp at the same time. Smithing plates takes an extra hour.

with his number alching and making plates is 70k mining + 250k smithing per 2 1/3 hours

(1 hour to mine 1 hour to smith 20 minutes to make money)

which overall is

~30k mining + 107k smithing xp per hour @ 3m gp/hr

vs 50k mining xp 50k smithing xp per hour

 

if alching really increases your mining xp by 40% you should probably alch. That seems a little high though doesn't it.

I actually did take time into account. As you can see, 50/70 is one hour's worth of mining xp w/ superheating, divided by one hour of plain mining. Which is to say, how much mining time you get per hour of mining + superheating. The same for smithing.

 

Just wondering... why low alch instead of high alch?

Takes less time, so you can alch more ores.

[miracleman58]

Always superheat bars when mining gold because you lose ZERO time in mining xp/h. Whatever left over exp after 99 mining there is - Make addy Plates, Seems pretty simple really.

[Patr1ck]

I don't get why you would even consider low alching over superheating, if you can use mouse keys, superheating virtually poses zero i disturbance on your mining.

[Tenebri]

I don't get why you would even consider low alching over superheating, if you can use mouse keys, superheating virtually poses zero i disturbance on your mining.

i dont use mouse keys haha