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Seems like armor no longer provides any offensive stats... divine and arcane spirit shields have identical stats (though divine still drains prayer)... all 3 DG shields have identical stats as well, and appear to have the best raw stats for all shields in the game.

 

edit: nvm found that you have to "lock on" to an enemy to see armors offensive stats


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a clanny was saying that with a cannon at frosts he was filling invent+tort in 5 mins. that may need nerfing a bit xD


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Has anyone tried QBD yet? Really interested to see if it is substantially easier/harder. I'd try it myself but I'm about to try TD's.


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Has anyone tried QBD yet? Really interested to see if it is substantially easier/harder. I'd try it myself but I'm about to try TD's.

As I understand it, this boss has been specifically disabled during the beta.

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Am I the only one that noticed that going through the magic book has zero combat spells with death or blood runes?


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Have you checked ancient magiks? Pretty sure some of those spells are still supposed to need deaths and bloods.


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It looks like poison has been removed from weapons...?

Poison exists, but in potion form. You use the potion, and all your weapons are poisoned for a particular amount of time.


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For those of you unable to access the beta there's a lack of photos/info. So here ya go! :D

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Has anyone tried QBD yet? Really interested to see if it is substantially easier/harder. I'd try it myself but I'm about to try TD's.

As I understand it, this boss has been specifically disabled during the beta.

Ah really? That sucks. As I haven't heard anything about any of the Gwars bosses I'm assuming the whole thing is closed off in the beta at the moment?


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Something that's irking me is that every time I take my armor off to put another set on (By using bank all equipped items, or something) I lose my lp boost and then when I put armor back on and all of a sudden I'm still low and I get to eat like 5 rocktails to get back up to full. I hope that in the future if you unequip and re-equip armor in a bank it keeps the percent of life out of your skill rather than just your max (Ie if I'm at 800/990 I'd like to be at ~8/10 full hp when I put on armor, nor 800/9000).


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Should be fixed by the time the beta is done. Jagex needs to make sure you can't use it to heal. They could easily disable it in a fight, but imagine un-equipping and re-equipping gear to fully heal yourself in between boss spawns...


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Overall, I'm pretty disappointed. You can't effectively slay without mashing your keys the whole time.

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Overall, I'm pretty disappointed. You can't effectively slay without mashing your keys the whole time.

This is my problem with it as well. You're really forced into spamming abilities. I understand that they're trying to move away from AFKing, but they went too far in the other direction.

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Should be fixed by the time the beta is done. Jagex needs to make sure you can't use it to heal. They could easily disable it in a fight, but imagine un-equipping and re-equipping gear to fully heal yourself in between boss spawns...

That's why I said in a bank lol, I figured doing that anywhere would be pretty op, I just don't want to be forced to waste food when I'm nowhere near combat.


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Should be fixed by the time the beta is done. Jagex needs to make sure you can't use it to heal. They could easily disable it in a fight, but imagine un-equipping and re-equipping gear to fully heal yourself in between boss spawns...

 

There is a set time between switching armours. So much for hybriding with quick switches

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Warped Terrorbirds (My current slayer assignment) don't seem to exist at the moment. Warped tortoises do, by the way.


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Should be fixed by the time the beta is done. Jagex needs to make sure you can't use it to heal. They could easily disable it in a fight, but imagine un-equipping and re-equipping gear to fully heal yourself in between boss spawns...

 

There is a set time between switching armours. So much for hybriding with quick switches

Wait, what? I mean, I knew armor switching already gave penalties, but a timer on top of that?

 

Also, yeah, I think being able to swap without health going away at a bank would work. Or it could work how it did in the previous system - I'm pretty sure that in regular RS, if you have full torva and full health, then take off and put Torva back on, you'll still have full health.


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The new curses interface:

 

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There are new sap curses for mage strength and range strength in addition to the old ones for attack, and defence has to be sapped separately. There are also sap and leech curses that affect adrenaline, which should be interesting. And of course we new about Anguish and Torment, the range and mage equivalents of Turmoil. The three ultimate curses have a different effect now--they apparently raise your stats by a fixed amount and drain the enemy's stats.

 

Lunar spells have not had their rune costs rebalanced at all. Borrowed Power still requires astral runes and the stupid necklace, so still worthless.

 

I tried the basic amulets of Magic, Defence, Strength, and Power, and couldn't see any stats attached to them, so either that's hidden somehow or they have no stats anymore or I'm doing something wrong. Anyone else have any luck there?

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Fight caves is interesting.

 

Jad has no weakness and can hit in the 4000's

The 90s are weak to slash

The 360s are weak to arrows.

The rest are weak to water mage.

 

I got all the way to jad on 1 brew, no prayer, no hide with ice barrage in virtus.

180s seem to the be the biggest hurt, followed by 90s.

360s barely touched me.

22s prayer effect is much weaker (only lost like 30 or so prayer total and that was with them hitting me for a bit sometimes).

Did use the high lvl def healing ability a fair bit though.

 

Asphyxiate seems to be god in there, like 8/10 times it will 1 hit (or near 1 hit) a 360 and 8/10 it'll take atleast 3/4 off 90s and 180s.


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New rune costs for the standard spellbook:

 


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  • Strike spells cost 1 air + 1 of the element (just 1 air for air strike). Wind rush has been removed. Also, it's "Air" now instead of "Wind".
  • Each tier of elemental spell costs 1 extra rune of each type, so bolt is 2, blast is 3, wave is 4, surge is 5.
  • Confuse: 1 mind
  • Weaken: 1 body
  • Curse: 1 chaos
  • Bind: 1 nature
  • Slayer dart: 3 air, 1 death
  • Snare: 2 nature
  • Vulnerability: 1 chaos 1 soul
  • Enfeeble: 1 body 1 soul
  • Entangle: 3 nature
  • Stagger: 1 mind 1 soul
  • There is a new spell "Divine Storm" at 60 magic, costing 5 air runes. It has an animation similar to Storm of Armadyl.
  • Saradomin Strike, Flames of Zamorak, Claws of Guthix, and Charge are all gone. I can't find them in the book even with my Void Mace equipped. I assume Divine Storm is the replacement. (Storm of Armadyl still exists.)
  • Noncombat spells are unchanged.

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Overall, I'm pretty disappointed. You can't effectively slay without mashing your keys the whole time.

This is my problem with it as well. You're really forced into spamming abilities. I understand that they're trying to move away from AFKing, but they went too far in the other direction.

 

Agreed, although im hoping this is something they'll be willing to change. All they really need to do is buff the effectiveness of normal combat and increase the cool down times of some of the abilities and make them slightly stronger.


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