Ts_Stormrage Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 The Rune Essence to Pure Essence convertor... WHAT? A machine which becomes available to you if you have completed a follow-up quest on the "Rune Mysteries" quest (which would require a decent runecrafting level like 44, and ofcourse the lvl 30? mining)... WHO? Members only HOW? After you have completed that follow-up quest (which qould require 44 runecrafting) You get access to a machine, or pool of fluid essence or whatevermajigger, in which you can put any ammount of rune essence, soak it for a week (or whatever time Jagex usually needs to snipe an autoer), and withdraw as pure essence. There'd be a NPC there who you can pay a small fee (1gp per essence to be converted) to put in any ammount of rune essence (even notes, you give it just to him), and when converted, he will deliver it in your bank when talked to again (he will tell you if you have bankspace) Once a "fermenting process" has begun, you cannot use the device or whatever until its emptied. 100% success rate ofcourse. This will restore the balance between f2p and p2p essence, without risking the "macroed" essence to be sold, solving both OUR AND JAGEX's problem. any questions? Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomom1919 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 one problem.. if you had members already, then you wouldnt need this machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tefda Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 About that 1 gp cost though... If I'm converting 100k essence, it seems to become a steep price. Perhaps the NPC is so indebted to you that he will do it for free, or perhaps he is like the golem and does it because it was his purpose of existing (to change the essence). Placing this in the Wizard Tower or Lumbridge Swamp (Near Juna's Mini-Game) or even in the essence mine itself would be befitting of its purpose (What else could be put in the middle of that place, also it could help to explain why there were so many scaffoldings there. Perhaps dig in the center and you uncover the deeper layers of the essence mine in which magic in its purest form dwells. This could also lead up to many different quests involving the Zammorackians versus the Saradominists). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atroxide Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 stupid idea, then they will still auto on f2p, trade it to a p2p accoutn that did quest and transfer it to pure 1s to sell, stupid idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 one problem.. if you had members already, then you wouldnt need this machine. No? how about buying large ammount of f2p essence? same way we always did? only now theres a waiting period for it to turn into p2p essence, so theres time for jagex to check you out instead of the usual instamillions.... stupid idea, then they will still auto on f2p, trade it to a p2p accoutn that did quest and transfer it to pure 1s to sell, stupid idea you obviously missed the whole point of the waiting period (the time jagex usually needs to check you out if you auto, or traded with autoers on more then 1 occasion) tefda: you're missing the point... PEOPLE, READ BEFORE YOU POST BLATENTLY STUPID IGNORANT POSTS Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdjojo Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 i see the sitituation but i fail to see a soltution..... plus jagex has no time to be checking every ones essence out to see if it was macroed.... just face it you can't buy essence from f2p's anymore -no longer playing runescape, I have moved on to play world of warcraft. But I love the community of the forums so I plan to stay here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atroxide Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 one problem.. if you had members already, then you wouldnt need this machine. No? how about buying large ammount of f2p essence? same way we always did? only now theres a waiting period for it to turn into p2p essence, so theres time for jagex to check you out instead of the usual instamillions.... stupid idea, then they will still auto on f2p, trade it to a p2p accoutn that did quest and transfer it to pure 1s to sell, stupid idea you obviously missed the whole point of the waiting period (the time jagex usually needs to check you out if you auto, or traded with autoers on more then 1 occasion) tefda: you're missing the point... PEOPLE, READ BEFORE YOU POST BLATENTLY STUPID IGNORANT POSTS how does that stop them, i spent a day at varrock rune store last week and reported them, i looked some of them up and some were in the lvl 60's(mining) that means that they have been autoing on that account for over a month and still not caught yet, not all autoers get caught so that week that those pple have to wait so then they can ban them if they autoed is still not 100% reliable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 so make that waiting period longer... the "week" was just an arbitrary ammount of time... Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardovilian Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 So what you're saying is... P2P'ers can go to a F2P world, buy a bunch of F2P ess, take it to P2P world and turn it into P2P ess, then use it for crafting nats or laws? Or, to put it another way, completely circumvent the whole update's purpose of stopping auto'ers with throwaway F2P accounts from selling their ess to P2P law and nat crafters. Yeah that'll work! I suggest you contact Jagex right away and suggest it to them. :roll: The fact is that a bunch of cheats who have perverted the game for the sake of making money have stuffed a large number of honest F2P'ers by forcing Jagex to remove their income stream. Its not fair, it sucks for all the honest players out there but Jagex aren't gonna backtrack on it. I'm sure they gave considerable thought to the impact the update would have on players, but this was still the best solution they could come up with. Why is 'common sense' so named, when there is so little of it about?Welcome to puberty, we've been expecting you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primadog Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 posted on general forum as well, so double post? All I learned in life, I learned on Tip.it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan_Chat_Op Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 worst idea ever... I skill. If you skill you should join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionheart_0 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 or you know... you can acutly mine your own ess. Sig by IkuraiYour Guide to Posting! Behave or I will send my Moose mounted Beaver launchers at you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bantam222 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 no that wouldnt work, people would just sell the reg ess, and then let someone else soak it. Because it is so easy to change, the price diff. wouldnt be too much RSN: Bantam222 [105 combat] [1578 total level]Support my quest for 1600 Skill Total! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pressline47 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Bad idea, who would want to wait a week to use their ess? And I don't see how this would change anything besides make it a hassle for those who mine ess all the time, the point of the update was to prevent people creating throwaways.. I don't know about most people, but the lvl 30 mining for pure and p2p only seems fair to me. And possibly the most important.. touting your own idea as "Brilliant" is just plain arrogant, and then telling people they are ignorant because they dislike it is even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firestrike Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I believe this idea just wouldn't work this is because as jagex said higher lvl characters were making these lvl 3's and using them to mine the ess. However were then trading the level 3's and getting all the profit. making it that members can buy the ess off f2p and than frement it doesn't solve the problem and just makes it more annoying for the decent players in runescape (the majority) This is why the solution jagex came up with is perfect because it forces these autoers to do another skill which is probably more difficult to create a program for and the profit isn't as high for the ones that continue to do it. I mean people in members just wouldn't waste there time autoeing ess because of the risk to there character and the cost if it got banned after like the second day. THIS WAS A GREAT SOLUTION - although the people who do auto should be ashamed of themselves, anyone that sinks as low as to cheat (in anything) at life just are cheating themselves One other question, how do these people make autoers because i thought all the preventatives and rs2 made it impossible to do it i just don't understand how they could make an autoer. I played when Rs1 was out and there were loads of people that autoed all my friends did it and i reported each of them for it but the idea of the rs2 aside from better graphics was to stop the cheats what went wrong?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam007 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 About that 1 gp cost though... If I'm converting 100k essence, it seems to become a steep price. Perhaps the NPC is so indebted to you that he will do it for free, or perhaps he is like the golem and does it because it was his purpose of existing (to change the essence). The difference between the bad essence at like 20 gp each to 'good' essence at like 50 gp each is a lot more than 1gp... This would save a ton of people a ton of money. I like the idea. Bad idea, who would want to wait a week to use their ess? Um...I'd imagine the majority of players wouldn't really mind waiting to save a ton of money if you're buying thousands of essence. Unless you're glued to runescape and have nothing else on your mind besides getting those thousands of essences crafted, that shouldn't really be a problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoteman Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 why don't we just scrap the whole update. or make pure ess f2p. we only need 1 ess, stupid idea "A disbelief in magic can force some poor souls into believing in authority and business" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor4312 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 that would destroy the whole point of pure essence because macroers would then be able to sell their ess to high lvl crafters again ahahaha IMA A IDIOT cant argue there mateReal world? *looks around confuzzled* Real world?!? :ohnoes:have now quit rs :-( (but i still browse these forums :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meb Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 This would remove the entire point of the update- auto'ers would be able to sell their essence for excactly the same price to members then. Retired 2146 overall - 136 combat - 6 skillcapes Plus I think the whole teenage girl thing will end soon (hopefully), because my girlfriend is absolutely in love with him(she is 18), and im beginning to feel threatened by his [Justin Bieber] dashing looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12pure34 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I'm sorry, but I find this a very bad plan. The problem with autoers is being litteraly fixed completely by this update. Essence prices will hit rock bottom soon, which will hopefully lead to less autoers. By using this machine, you can turn unvailuable essence into BIG PRICY! PURE ESSENCE! for this machine to work, you will need a) a high duration time, lets say a week (tears of guthix example) B) high costs, 1 gp where you can make a profit of 90-270gp is nothing c) a limit to the use, whereas you can only turn a max of 500 essence into pure d) a higher~ runecrafting level then 44, rather say 60, for the pro's use only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordendravid Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Not sure I get the point at all... You've said that there should be a waiting period of a week or however long is deemed necessary, in order that Jagex (assuming they have nothing better to do) can check all essence trades between F2P and P2P, OK I understand the concept. However, what happens then? What if you did buy essence off an autoer? You lose it? It doesn't get converted? I suspect that most people buy their essence in good faith and therefore it would be harsh to punish the buyer. If the buyer then gets to keep it regardless and only the autoer banned then what is the point? That could have happened without the recent changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eev Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 or you know... you can acutly mine your own ess. Ludicrousness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke_Freedom Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 This "solution" actually says.. "Let's just go back the old situation where we only have one type of rune essence". Because the autoers will be able to sell the normal essence for roughly the same price as before to normal players again, and you can't ban the normal players for transforming the normal essence into the pure essence... The value of my bank at its height. Estimated value at the peak of the rares market: 250 billion+.Most likely the largest trade in RuneScape ever. Estimated value at the peak of the rares market: 70 billion+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 PEOPLE, READ BEFORE YOU POST BLATENTLY STUPID IGNORANT POSTS The freakin' irony. I love how you posted this self-proclaimed brilliant idea on two boards and have been flamed in both threads. Just mine your own goddamn essence. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhand Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 The wole purpose of the update was to make rune essence non-transferable from free game to members. This update would almost completely contradict it. I know not everyones happy with the update, but don't blame JAGeX, blame those stupid people who think they can use an autoer to play the game for them, racking up a completely unfair ammount of cash, which they sell on ebay, and the buyer ends up banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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