x_giva Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 If you've ever been down by the lumbridge general store, you'd be quickly able to tell that something is wrong. There are at least 80k willow logs in there, and 10k yews. Where do these come from? Macroers.. I have a problem here. on one hand, there's a good load of logs there to be bought cheaply. But on the other hand, these logs came from rulebreakers. My question is: do you care at all if your items are coming from an illegal source? My answer:yes. ahh... the good old days, when 30 attack got you on the high-scores....... An orthodox Jew and proud of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uula Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 I trained fm 75-90 there, to me it just felt funny how they stock up 10k+ every day. Can't care too much, they will still cut even if you don't buy them. Just report them and keep fming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandaman115 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 I could really care less about macroers, as they don't affect me, or anything I do, really, and they actually HELP me, with the way Uular stated. [Admin Edit: No naming names in a negative light] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x_giva Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 you don't even feel a tinge of guilt that you're getting stuff from ilegal sources? I think of it like buying pirated videos... ahh... the good old days, when 30 attack got you on the high-scores....... An orthodox Jew and proud of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandaman115 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 you don't even feel a tinge of guilt that you're getting stuff from ilegal sources? I think of it like buying pirated videos... Actually, it's different...the NPC's bought them. We just bought them from the NPC :) So really, it's like the NPC's are buying pirated videos. [Admin Edit: No naming names in a negative light] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhelimReagh Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 If you've ever been down by the lumbridge general store, you'd be quickly able to tell that something is wrong. There are at least 80k willow logs in there, and 10k yews. Where do these come from? Macroers.. I have a problem here. on one hand, there's a good load of logs there to be bought cheaply. But on the other hand, these logs came from rulebreakers. My question is: do you care at all if your items are coming from an illegal source? If a player stops buying these logs from the general store, will the macroers get any less money? Will the macroers get any less XP? Are players buying from the general store in any way affecting the behavior of these autoers? Of course not. The logs will eventually burn away, one every 20-30 seconds or so, whether or not players buy from the General Store. If the player's behavior was in any way rewarding the autoers/macroers, I could see how there would be a problem. But the former has ZERO effect on the latter. It's not like you can put pressure on the owners of the General Store and force them into bankruptcy or something for not doing a thorough background check on their suppliers, LOL. Feel free to not buy in protest, but know full well that there is no correlation between your buying/not buying and the autoers profiting/not profiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevepole Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I don't feel that anything is wrong about it because i'm not doing anything bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdrizzle13 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 how much do the yews sell for in the store. . .say if i wanted to buy them for the general store? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast647 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 10k yews? pfft Come to #tip-it on Swift IRC, if you're cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elphinstone Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 It's quite simple to grasp really. Unlike real life, we are not only going through a middleman and not taking items directly from the source, which WOULD be unethical, we are going through a computer middleman, which in no way checks to see who sells the logs and doesn't give the seller any profit when you buy the logs. You also can't seperate the logs that were cut by real players from the autoers, so boycotting won't get you anywhere, especially in a game as uncaring as RS. If you really want to make a difference, then go on reporting those autoers and go on buying the logs and doing your own thing. Unlike real life, it's a game, and it will eventually resolve itself. Which FF Character Are You?"The only tyrant i accept in this world is the still voice within." - Mahatma Gandhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecube Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Eh... I don't care. After they sell them to the general store, I consider them the property of the lovely shop keepers. : So I can happily go along and buy my oaks for construction, and willows for firemaking. PS: Are there really yews there? I thought people only sold oak and willows to NPCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game_guy02 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Those are autoer logs? Why do I never know these things. Where do these people cut at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HatshepsutLecter Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I don't really care all that much. I always get all of my raw materials myself so I would not be one of the people buying the logs from the store in the first place. Why buy something that I can cut myself? If I was one of those people I would not really mind that much. Me not buying the logs is not going to stop all of the autoers from selling their logs there in the first place. And there could be some logs in there from real people. It is not like the store can distinguish between logs that a person gets and logs that an autoer gets. The Internet: where men are men, women are men, and children are the FBI.First Dragon Drop 5/6/2006 -Dragon Med from Bronze Dragon :DFirst Barrows Item From Chest 2/20/2007 - Verac's Brassard :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeroh Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 theres a bunch of willows, but not yews. yews would be nice :thumbsup: and i don't really care. it helps me with fm, but i usually wc my own logs, and it also helps other people. it just doesn't help the highscores when the macroers rake in millions of xp. Retired from runescape. I will be on every now and then though. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznmidget448 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 In general, I avoid buying things. I use skills to get the raw material to level up other skills. The macroers are a nuisance and I just report them as I see them (after trying to talk to them as proof they are macroers : ) I wouldn't mind buying logs from the general store seeing as they would cost less and the macroers will keep selling them no matter what. Only if there was a way to get rid of the macroers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomnameless Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I really don't care if they go though the shop keepers. IF i buy directly form the autoer, then i will feel bad. But i don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyrelex Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 It's not like not buying them will stop the autoers, might as well take advantage of a good opportunity to level firemaking, even though I haven't actually ever done this. And it's not because of the "ethical" problem i'd just rather cut them myself and level wc and fm at the same time. Just report them when you see them that should help take away from your guilt :thumbsup: Check out my Pocket Slot idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue107 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 you don't even feel a tinge of guilt that you're getting stuff from ilegal sources? I think of it like buying pirated videos... most people dont have a problem with pirating videos, i myself have 10+ downloaded movies they wont make any less money if you dont buy them , its a good place to train to keep up with them 485th person to ever play RuneScapeBlue107- perm banned 10/12/2007. $300 USD reward if you can get me in contact with someone who will take 5 seconds to look at evidence and get my original character unbanned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat_Slug Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 makes you think that there's something wrong with the game, when there are so many logs in the stores... and they still get away with autoing more and more... Runescape nick : Fat_SlugOwner of Ears, Scythe and a 10 year veteran cape :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwrm22 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 buy and bank :) youll make millions :D ^^ click my sig for my lesser ranging guide ^^jwrm22: 4816th > 99 cooking 100% f2p !1172 total! + 140mil in items.i dont play anymore... i think rs is ruined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon_lord Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Well, there's no point of the logs going to waste...And it isn't against the rules... Pretty much what Dragon said.Thread terminated.I guess that means I'm the thread Terminator? No Tip.Iters were harmed in the making of this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krokomaster Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I verily despire macroers... however, I wouldn't care if my items came from illegal source, since I think the reason why these are a plague to RuneScape if that they fill Runescape with characters who don't deserve their skill levels... and fill the pockets of their owners with undeserved money. Noob.Lets get some things straight, RC pking is BAD, therefore you deserve to get FLAMED. Bad kills, they are defenseless people. It's like attacking a woodcutter for a yew log... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pompey_spud Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 whats this? theres cheap logs to be bought? where?? WHERE AND WHEN FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tskolar Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 you don't even feel a tinge of guilt that you're getting stuff from ilegal sources? I think of it like buying pirated videos... Actually, it's different...the NPC's bought them. We just bought them from the NPC :) So really, it's like the NPC's are buying pirated videos. 0mg R0flmao, ty for that man O:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x_giva Posted November 17, 2006 Author Share Posted November 17, 2006 you don't even feel a tinge of guilt that you're getting stuff from ilegal sources? I think of it like buying pirated videos... most people dont have a problem with pirating videos, i myself have 10+ downloaded movies they wont make any less money if you dont buy them , its a good place to train to keep up with them pirating videos!!! tsk tsk.... :shame: but still, i just don't see it as right, since they wouldn't exist if the macroers didn't.. in fact, it seems like you guys are all SUPPORTING macroers for your own selfish skills... (i hope you understood that) ahh... the good old days, when 30 attack got you on the high-scores....... An orthodox Jew and proud of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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