PS3 Wii or 360 !!!!!!

[Nadril]

Honestly, I'll try all three. I currently have a 360 and a Wii, both of which are very fun and, imo, (espescially the Wii) have only a few actual buyable games. To me, the 360 was a big let-down after I bought it (around a year ago). Mediocre games at the time didn't help much, but I'll admit that playing CoD2 with some friends online was a good time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, onto the PS3. It's an amazing system, and what most people don't seem to get are the long-term capabilities of it. Do you guys remember what some of the launch games on the PS2 looked like? Almost comparable to latter PS1 games. I'm not saying that graphics are all that important to me, but to many, they are. Of course Gears of War had better graphics than any other game, it's on a next-gen system that's been out for A YEAR! Devs have had plenty of time to work with the 360, and find out the capabilities of it (or, at least, the capabilities of it so far). I expect this to happen with the PS3, and when it does, the graphics will be the best ever. I mean, hasn't anyone seen the previews for the two PS3 FFXIII's? AMAZING! And the gameplay also looks very original, very new, and very awesome. Onto gameplay. Many say "Oh, the PS3 controller didn't change at all, it's still the same old DualShock2 with a different name on it." But, tell me, how much did the 360 controller change? I'd say the PS3 controller, compared to the 360 controller, changed even more so. The tilt sensor may seem a little lame, but for simple gameplay mechanics for small actions such as leaning around corners, strafing, or even rolling would make a great addition to any game. The PS3 gives you so much more for your money, it's hardly worth discussing. Look, I love my 360, I love my Wii, but I can't deny that i'm extremely excited to get a PS3.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, and one more thing. Many people gripe over the huge cost of the PS3 due to Blu-Ray. Go buy a 360 and the add-on HD-DVD player. How much does that bring you up to?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I didn't buy a console so I could watch movies. :wink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@ sephiroth: You are acting a lot like blue except in favor of the Wii instead of PS3. Really, stop it. It's getting anoying.

[sephiroth_king]

@ sephiroth: You are acting a lot like blue except in favor of the Wii instead of PS3. Really, stop it. It's getting anoying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ern...Blue did a lot like, how the PS3 is superior. I may do that sometimes, but I'm entitled to my opinion, and all I said is that the PS3 is always in stock, I could go there and buy one now. Wii's, well, you can't. And everything I say is always based on facts, wereas Blue...Not so much, especially when she uses Wikipedia :wink: It's like when you didn't answer me when I asked why IGN was bad, because you have no reason, you just know it's very good at rating games and their info is accurate. Right? Wrong? If I'm wrong, then tell me why you don't like IGN, either that, or don't say it's a bad site.

[Nadril]

 

@ sephiroth: You are acting a lot like blue except in favor of the Wii instead of PS3. Really, stop it. It's getting anoying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ern...Blue did a lot like, how the PS3 is superior. I may do that sometimes, but I'm entitled to my opinion, and all I said is that the PS3 is always in stock, I could go there and buy one now. Wii's, well, you can't. And everything I say is always based on facts, wereas Blue...Not so much, especially when she uses Wikipedia :wink: It's like when you didn't answer me when I asked why IGN was bad, because you have no reason, you just know it's very good at rating games and their info is accurate. Right? Wrong? If I'm wrong, then tell me why you don't like IGN, either that, or don't say it's a bad site.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm just saying that both of you have some fairly "fanboyish" remarks about both systems.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As far as IGN goes I don't have the time to go digging around for proof. Lets just say though that IGN are very tempted by $$$ and some companys have paid them to sway a review.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm sure for just regular info its fine but their reviews are very biased.

[blue107]

 

Honestly, I'll try all three. I currently have a 360 and a Wii, both of which are very fun and, imo, (espescially the Wii) have only a few actual buyable games. To me, the 360 was a big let-down after I bought it (around a year ago). Mediocre games at the time didn't help much, but I'll admit that playing CoD2 with some friends online was a good time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, onto the PS3. It's an amazing system, and what most people don't seem to get are the long-term capabilities of it. Do you guys remember what some of the launch games on the PS2 looked like? Almost comparable to latter PS1 games. I'm not saying that graphics are all that important to me, but to many, they are. Of course Gears of War had better graphics than any other game, it's on a next-gen system that's been out for A YEAR! Devs have had plenty of time to work with the 360, and find out the capabilities of it (or, at least, the capabilities of it so far). I expect this to happen with the PS3, and when it does, the graphics will be the best ever. I mean, hasn't anyone seen the previews for the two PS3 FFXIII's? AMAZING! And the gameplay also looks very original, very new, and very awesome. Onto gameplay. Many say "Oh, the PS3 controller didn't change at all, it's still the same old DualShock2 with a different name on it." But, tell me, how much did the 360 controller change? I'd say the PS3 controller, compared to the 360 controller, changed even more so. The tilt sensor may seem a little lame, but for simple gameplay mechanics for small actions such as leaning around corners, strafing, or even rolling would make a great addition to any game. The PS3 gives you so much more for your money, it's hardly worth discussing. Look, I love my 360, I love my Wii, but I can't deny that i'm extremely excited to get a PS3.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, and one more thing. Many people gripe over the huge cost of the PS3 due to Blu-Ray. Go buy a 360 and the add-on HD-DVD player. How much does that bring you up to?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I didn't buy a console so I could watch movies. :wink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@ sephiroth: You are acting a lot like blue except in favor of the Wii instead of PS3. Really, stop it. It's getting anoying.

Never compare me to someone like him :uhh: and I wouldnt really call myself a fanboy , I have an interest in the subject and have a knowledge of all the consoles. Hell, I even own all of them. You just say that I am a fanboy because I used to strongly prefer the PS3, but most people would define a fanboy as someone who would stick by it no matter how horrible it was. And I did not do that with the original version :uhh:

[crimsonking]

 

 

Honestly, I'll try all three. I currently have a 360 and a Wii, both of which are very fun and, imo, (espescially the Wii) have only a few actual buyable games. To me, the 360 was a big let-down after I bought it (around a year ago). Mediocre games at the time didn't help much, but I'll admit that playing CoD2 with some friends online was a good time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, onto the PS3. It's an amazing system, and what most people don't seem to get are the long-term capabilities of it. Do you guys remember what some of the launch games on the PS2 looked like? Almost comparable to latter PS1 games. I'm not saying that graphics are all that important to me, but to many, they are. Of course Gears of War had better graphics than any other game, it's on a next-gen system that's been out for A YEAR! Devs have had plenty of time to work with the 360, and find out the capabilities of it (or, at least, the capabilities of it so far). I expect this to happen with the PS3, and when it does, the graphics will be the best ever. I mean, hasn't anyone seen the previews for the two PS3 FFXIII's? AMAZING! And the gameplay also looks very original, very new, and very awesome. Onto gameplay. Many say "Oh, the PS3 controller didn't change at all, it's still the same old DualShock2 with a different name on it." But, tell me, how much did the 360 controller change? I'd say the PS3 controller, compared to the 360 controller, changed even more so. The tilt sensor may seem a little lame, but for simple gameplay mechanics for small actions such as leaning around corners, strafing, or even rolling would make a great addition to any game. The PS3 gives you so much more for your money, it's hardly worth discussing. Look, I love my 360, I love my Wii, but I can't deny that i'm extremely excited to get a PS3.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, and one more thing. Many people gripe over the huge cost of the PS3 due to Blu-Ray. Go buy a 360 and the add-on HD-DVD player. How much does that bring you up to?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I didn't buy a console so I could watch movies. :wink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@ sephiroth: You are acting a lot like blue except in favor of the Wii instead of PS3. Really, stop it. It's getting anoying.

Never compare me to someone like him :uhh: and I wouldnt really call myself a fanboy , I have an interest in the subject and have a knowledge of all the consoles. Hell, I even own all of them. You just say that I am a fanboy because I used to strongly prefer the PS3, but most people would define a fanboy as someone who would stick by it no matter how horrible it was. And I did not do that with the original version :uhh:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Used to? You've changed that much in a week?

[blue107]

I'd prefer the term 5 months.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When I was banned, I started going to gaming sites and got BURNED whenever I said anything because I realised I didnt know what I was talking about. Now I do and I realize that PS3 isnt a god

[Augsback]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, and one more thing. Many people gripe over the huge cost of the PS3 due to Blu-Ray. Go buy a 360 and the add-on HD-DVD player. How much does that bring you up to?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree, I tried getting that point across and got one huge flame war.

[indy500fan]

I agree, I tried getting that point across and got one huge flame war.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well on the 360 it's optional. You don't have to buy it if you don't want to watch HD-DVD movies on it. Brings down the price $200, which is good. If Sony did something like that it may have helped sales. Depending on how the format war goes (either way right now) will decide what players people buy. If it was optional on the PS3 and Blu-Ray wins, then you could go out and purchase the player pretty cheaply. More control over what they have to buy is always good for consumers. Plus it could put the PS3 down into a better price range, and maybe get more sales. There are a lot of people like me who want a PS3, but can't afford it. Granted I can't afford the 360 either (which I also want), even without the HD-DVD player, but it is closer. I couldn't really afford my Wii either though (if someone wants to buy it and all the accessories I have at MSRB+shipping I'd sell it :P ) so I guess maybe I am just hoping for too much. I like consoles to be in the <$100 range.

[Nadril]

 

I agree, I tried getting that point across and got one huge flame war.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well on the 360 it's optional. You don't have to buy it if you don't want to watch HD-DVD movies on it. Brings down the price $200, which is good. If Sony did something like that it may have helped sales. Depending on how the format war goes (either way right now) will decide what players people buy. If it was optional on the PS3 and Blu-Ray wins, then you could go out and purchase the player pretty cheaply. More control over what they have to buy is always good for consumers. Plus it could put the PS3 down into a better price range, and maybe get more sales. There are a lot of people like me who want a PS3, but can't afford it. Granted I can't afford the 360 either (which I also want), even without the HD-DVD player, but it is closer. I couldn't really afford my Wii either though (if someone wants to buy it and all the accessories I have at MSRB+shipping I'd sell it :P ) so I guess maybe I am just hoping for too much. I like consoles to be in the <$100 range.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

good luck with that lol :D.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I do agree with what you said though, if they made it optional it would be a ton better as far as sales go.

[unknownmasterofnothing]

Well they're taking out a emulation chip to make ps3 cheaper in europe.

[How2PK]

I didn't buy a console so I could watch movies. :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I do agree with what you said though, if they made it optional it would be a ton better as far as sales go.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yea, but Sony have their games produced on Blue Ray discs. 360 can't do that, because they have the HD=player as an option.

[Nadril]

 

I didn't buy a console so I could watch movies. :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I do agree with what you said though, if they made it optional it would be a ton better as far as sales go.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yea, but Sony have their games produced on Blue Ray discs. 360 can't do that, because they have the HD=player as an option.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah granted I don't know much about HD vs. blue ray but from what I've seen it isn't exactly the largest difference, and I don't think that justifys the huge extra price tag.

[Lionheart_0]

 

 

I didn't buy a console so I could watch movies. :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I do agree with what you said though, if they made it optional it would be a ton better as far as sales go.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yea, but Sony have their games produced on Blue Ray discs. 360 can't do that, because they have the HD=player as an option.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah granted I don't know much about HD vs. blue ray but from what I've seen it isn't exactly the largest difference, and I don't think that justifys the huge extra price tag.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Doesn't Blue ray have like 5 times the amount of storage space on it then a dvd?

[____]

Doesn't Blue ray have like 5 times the amount of storage space on it then a dvd?

Something like that - but your average DVD doesn't take up that much space now does it. Even a lot of boxsets don't hit that.

 

 

 

And on the side - I much prefer my movies on idividual disks.

 

 

 

At least then if something fubar's the disc, i still got the others.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So don't try laying down the 'at least you'll only need one disc for multiple movies" bs (that's to anyone who's thinking of it).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I highly doubt "High Definition" movies (just one) is going to leech THAT MUCH space either.... data back-up anyone?

[How2PK]

I'm not talking about movies. I'm talking about Playstation 3 games being produced on Blue Ray discs. Surely all that extra disc space is giving them an advantage?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And, rick, about the size difference. High Definition t.v. takes up more space on your disc than normal television, which is on your DVD's now.

[Nadril]

I'm not talking about movies. I'm talking about Playstation 3 games being produced on Blue Ray discs. Surely all that extra disc space is giving them an advantage?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And, rick, about the size difference. High Definition t.v. takes up more space on your disc than normal television, which is on your DVD's now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Right now the big question is are they going to use all of that space, and is it worth the extra price tag added on for it?

[How2PK]

I guess with an eye on the future it is worth it. But on the other side, in the future it's cheaper.

[Nadril]

I guess with an eye on the future it is worth it. But on the other side, in the future it's cheaper.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyone know how much space a HD-DVD and blu-ray DVD can hold btw?

[How2PK]

I thought at the moment blu ray can hold 20 gb, expandable till 50 gb, and in the future they can bring it up to 200gb? If I remember correctly. HD goes between 20 till 50 or something.

[Nadril]

I thought at the moment blue ray can hold 20 gb, expandable till 50 gb, and in the future they can bring it up to 200gb? If I remember correctly. HD goes between 20 till 50 or something.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

so technicly the max would be like a 50gb HD vs 200gb blu-ray.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As an example I'll use Everquest II and its expansions. All together (the game and 3 expansion packs, which btw pretty much every NPC in the game has voice acting) is probaly around 15 CD's. That would all fit on an HD-Dvd with room to go along it too. (a lot of it).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't know, the chances of a game using that much space that a blu-ray can hold is pretty crazy.

[How2PK]

But the thing is that you can start making games basically without a limit on the size. That should result in better gameplay etc, am I right? Maybe I'm wrong and I didn't understand it, but otherwise it's deffinitly a pro and the Blu-Ray player is much more than just an extra to watch movies on.

[Nadril]

But the thing is that you can start making games basically without a limit on the size. That should result in better gameplay etc, am I right? Maybe I'm wrong and I didn't understand it, but otherwise it's deffinitly a pro and the Blu-Ray player is much more than just an extra to watch movies on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What i'm trying to get across is it has the potential to do so. However, I don't think that games in the next 2-5 years are going to use that much more space (everquest II, while 2 years old, is still probaly one of the most technical games out there. Also, being an MMO, the game is massive and has a ton of voice acting which takes up room).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I may be wrong though ;D. Guess we'll see if all the space is used up.

[blue107]

I thought at the moment blu ray can hold 20 gb, expandable till 50 gb, and in the future they can bring it up to 200gb? If I remember correctly. HD goes between 20 till 50 or something.

Blu-ray is 50 on a double layered disc

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also MGS4 developers plan to use the whole 50 gigs, anyone who is an active digger probably remembers that

[unknownmasterofnothing]

I think limits sometimes are good, because you don't have space for crap.

[____]

I think limits sometimes are good, because you don't have space for crap.

Yea... i'm waiting for the "hey.. we've got all this room - let's just pu this in" eye candy rubbish and other useless crap which ads nothing to the game other than more to load.