Collecting Raws is ''dumb''?!

[meili]

I enjoy gathering my own materials and at level 121, with a no-too-bad bank, I don't consider myself low level or poor. Pointless? What is the point of power leveling by buying raws? You buy ores, for what? Smithing? It's cheaper to buy armor than to get a the smithing level for making it yourself.

[Greedom1]

Spot on. Though there are some slight tangential discussions to be had you've figured out (earlier than some, later than others) that the way to make it in RS is to stand on the backs/shoulders of others. Obviously some skills require training (mining, hunter, fishing, agility) and cannot be bought. Yet if your goal is gp and/or skills, clearly collecting everything yourself is a bit of a waste. The trick of course is to buy the raw materials while trying to make a little bit of profit / least loss in value possible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Either way, good luck to ya.

[are_ess_guy]

Gathering is for the poor and lower levels (Note: I avoid the word noob as it is in no way in place here)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--> How do you guys feel about gathering skills? I think your leaving out skills youll eventually have to raise thus wasting more time in the end

 

 

 

--> Is this conclusion right, or am I thinking the wrong way? Its your choice really, I cant really change the way you play A GAME

 

 

 

--> Are you a high/low level and how do you feel about gathering skills? I consider myself a high lvl (84cb) and I do gather stuff, I feel its just stocking up on something now your going to finish off later

 

 

 

--> Do you feel the same, as you become a higher leveled player or have increased money? Yes Ive felt the same about gathering things (raws, herbs etc) throughout my runescape life (though I dont really understand this question)

[malo2]

 

you're acting as if getting secondary skills (cooking, fletching, smithing, ect..) is the ultimate goal in runescape. So lets say you got your fletching to 99, hows that any better then 99 woodcutting? why would you avoid woodcutting just so you could get your fletching up faster?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even though woodcutting is a much harder skill, people still raise it because its alot more respected than fletching, because its alot harder to lvl. No matter which skill you raise, the respect will always be equal, even though the lvls will vary since some skills are harder, but the harder skills are worth more respect wise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Plus, you don't make much money by just fletching, and you loose while cooking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Agreed.

 

 

 

I don't fish, mine, woodcut, etc. or gather any raw materials for the most part because it is pointless.

excuse me? since when did anything in runescape have a point? In any game for that matter.

I'm not sure how you'd rather have me phrase that. If i can raise say woodcutting and firemaking to a high lvl faster by doing the primary skill (woodcutting) with the fastest exp logs and by buying logs for firemaking, I will do that instead of cutting slower logs so I can burn them, or burning the lower lvl logs.

so how are you going to get the woodcutting lvls? like I said in my post, a woodcutting cape is far more impressive than a fletching cape which you can just buy.

[deciever2]

I have 65m+ in items in the bank and yet I'm still a cheap @$$hole so I refuse to buy instead of gather, unless I will definitely make a profit whether I buy or not.

[VK_SelfDoubt]

ya i tend to buy everythin too, to lazy

[12pure34]

 

 

you're acting as if getting secondary skills (cooking, fletching, smithing, ect..) is the ultimate goal in runescape. So lets say you got your fletching to 99, hows that any better then 99 woodcutting? why would you avoid woodcutting just so you could get your fletching up faster?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even though woodcutting is a much harder skill, people still raise it because its alot more respected than fletching, because its alot harder to lvl. No matter which skill you raise, the respect will always be equal, even though the lvls will vary since some skills are harder, but the harder skills are worth more respect wise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Plus, you don't make much money by just fletching, and you loose while cooking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Agreed.

 

 

 

I don't fish, mine, woodcut, etc. or gather any raw materials for the most part because it is pointless.

excuse me? since when did anything in runescape have a point? In any game for that matter.

I'm not sure how you'd rather have me phrase that. If i can raise say woodcutting and firemaking to a high lvl faster by doing the primary skill (woodcutting) with the fastest exp logs and by buying logs for firemaking, I will do that instead of cutting slower logs so I can burn them, or burning the lower lvl logs.

so how are you going to get the woodcutting lvls? like I said in my post, a woodcutting cape is far more impressive than a fletching cape which you can just buy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Altought some may have a different idea, I do feel that skill capes like fishing and woodcutting are worth more. Also this is a opinion and offtopic..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Gathering is for the poor and lower levels (Note: I avoid the word noob as it is in no way in place here)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

that line has likely given you a few enemies, not counting ones who have posted

 

 

 

you play the game the way you want, let others do the same without judging them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I said, avoid the word noob there, because lower levels are not noob. Something which can be confused and be turned to a flame.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now to stay ontopic for myself to:

 

 

 

It will always remain a choice for people, wether or not they collect their own materials. When you become richer, you tend to buy more materials, because.. You can (?!). Also, when you become a higher level, and your goal is to level up, most of the people stick to the most efficient way. Ofcourse there are many other ways, which can be more fun or make more profit. And this is a matter of choice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd love to hear some more opinions about this. Anyone had any experience with a lower leveled account, which he made after his high account. How was getting money and skilling for you since you started with all skills lvl 1? And how did this changed when your levels went higher?

[swampjedi]

This has a lot of validity... up to a point. If you 99 all of your resource consuming/transforming skills, what's left? Yep, gathering.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm getting to the point where I have to drag up my lowest skills, which includes several gathering skills.

[atestarossa]

i was going to post something wise about xp/hour and money/hour now, but it seems like it's all said.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

when you can buy the slow things to do the fast things, then you get more time to do the fun things =)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

or known as... when you can buy 8[ores, ess, yews et cetera]

 

 

 

then you can do [fletching/smithing/rc'ing] that leaves more time to do[barrows, kbd, steel drags et cetera]

[Hevendor_Guy]

I never mine my own pure essence or ores, much too slow and repetitive for me. The only fish I'd consider getting myself would be sharks, but I can't fish (or cook for that matter #-o) those yet. I gladly cut my own wood though. Imo, just depends on what you like to do, and if some people like to buy their skills (I buy some of mine) and others prefer to do it themselves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I much prefer skills that you cannot buy though.

[Antaeus]

If one derives no enjoyment out of gathering, then yes it would be pointless for them to spend much time doing that. I'm sure there are some people that play the game simply enjoying what they like doing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If someone enjoyed only "resource consuming/transforming skills," what's to stop them from doing those things only? There's nothing wrong with using a skill if you pass the level 99 mark. Nor the 200m exp mark.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fletching was my favorite skill, it happened to be my first 99, but I didn't get 99 in it for the approval of others. It's something I liked to do. Who are any of you to appraise the merit in my untrimmed fletching cape?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The point is this: If a new player's preference was a secondary skill, sure, they must begin with a gathering skill. But once their skill of choice can pay for itself (and efficiently), it would be 'dumb' of them to waste their time doing something they don't enjoy (gathering).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyone that gathers derives some kind of enjoyment out of it. Whether it's the money, or experience, or if they just like doing it (it's not so far fetch'd). And there's nothing wrong with that either. Do what you like. Don't waste your time doing something you don't want to do if you don't have to do it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, I doubt that the economy would "collapse" without new players or autoers to provide raw materials. Logically, prices for raws would rise and/or "established/legitimate" players would gather their own supplies (or make a killing gathering them to sell). Unless the bulk of RS is truly lazy enough to call it quits if they can't find someone to sell them their p ess (or whatever) :boohoo: [Actually, I think that'd be great.]

[m00finz]

no, gathering is not for the poor and low leveled.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am 99 woodcutting, and how did i get it? I cut all of the magic logs. AKA gathering

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have over 40m if I add up all my money and items, so i'm far from poor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm a rich getherer. So I'm proof your point is wrong.

 

 

 

Plus I'm level 96 with nearly 1600 total.

[xSxqPowerx]

 

 

you're acting as if getting secondary skills (cooking, fletching, smithing, ect..) is the ultimate goal in runescape. So lets say you got your fletching to 99, hows that any better then 99 woodcutting? why would you avoid woodcutting just so you could get your fletching up faster?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even though woodcutting is a much harder skill, people still raise it because its alot more respected than fletching, because its alot harder to lvl. No matter which skill you raise, the respect will always be equal, even though the lvls will vary since some skills are harder, but the harder skills are worth more respect wise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Plus, you don't make much money by just fletching, and you loose while cooking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Agreed.

 

 

 

I don't fish, mine, woodcut, etc. or gather any raw materials for the most part because it is pointless.

excuse me? since when did anything in runescape have a point? In any game for that matter.

I'm not sure how you'd rather have me phrase that. If i can raise say woodcutting and firemaking to a high lvl faster by doing the primary skill (woodcutting) with the fastest exp logs and by buying logs for firemaking, I will do that instead of cutting slower logs so I can burn them, or burning the lower lvl logs.

so how are you going to get the woodcutting lvls? like I said in my post, a woodcutting cape is far more impressive than a fletching cape which you can just buy.

I won't get the woodcutting levels. I consider woodcutting boring and pointless. I can make money faster in other ways that I enjoy doing, and I could care less about getting a level up just for a cape or for skill total.

[highlanders]

I think that you think too much. \

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why wud u go gather raws? Takes 4 ever.

[berbatovsky]

@post creator: I agree with your points, at a higher level it is inefficient to mine 2000 coal and 1000 iron ore (example) to smith to bars and then sell because in the time taken to do so you could have made more money/gained more exp in other skills. I personally like to gather as many raw materials as i can but sometimes lack the willpower to mine/fish/chop several thousand things and resort to buying them, because the end result is something you can sell/alch (generally for more money than what the raw materials cost you)so you are not losing money and gaining exp, the only loss is the exp in the gathering skill.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@flamers:what this guy is saying is that the primary skills (resource gathering) are too slow and that this can be bypassed by paying for the resources to be gathered for you, which benefits you (time saved) and the seller (money gained).

[HeWhoIsGenChris123]

Collecting raws is for lower levels? Oh, way off there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you want to train any of the main ways of making money etc mining wc and fish, you will have to collect Many raws

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Agreed, way off. With the prices that yews have become, when I become a member again, I'm gonna use the logs I have been cutting, and not buy anymore. I will, however, buy the nature runes.

[ChewyShoe]

Welcome to the world of opportunity costs. Give yourself a cookie, you did good!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also to the people who are saying gathering is a good way to make money.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...It's not. Even at it's best, you are going to be lucky to make 500k+ an hr, give me a level three with no skills and 1000k and i'll double it in an hr.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You just gotta be smart about how you use your time and not waste it.

[mario_sunny]

I remember when I use to fish thousands of raw sharks and sell them when I was a lvl 67(I was a lvl 67 for four months strait!). At that time my fishing was 83, and it still is to this very day. When I discovered runecrafting via the abyss I thought of it just as a hobby until one day I calculated my money per hour. Wow... that was a suprise, 2 times more than sharks. So I set down my harpoon and bought a ton of rune ess(It was only one ess back in my days) and got crafting. I have never touched fishing since expect for one time where I caught 500 monkfish to raise slayer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Really I am like you, I barely ever work for my own raw materials. I'm all about money per hour. It takes a certain amount of time to mine pure ess and craft it when I could just buy it and make more money per hour. Now since I recently just recieved 75 runecrafting(now 77 :XD: ) I am making 270K an hour. That's getting off subject though.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To me raising these "raw" material skills(woodcutting, mining, fishing) is only to raise my total. I am proud to say I am a level 89 with 1603 total and rising, and I don't intend to raise my combat anytime soon. Sure cutting magics might come in handy sometimes, sure mith might come in handy sometimes, sure sharks might come in handy, but those are skills I do not necessarly use to gather my own raw materials.