Ravenkana

So who drops them? Just the Corporeal Beast? Or does the Wraith drop them as well? And just out of curiosity, has anyone found anything else that drops elixers and shield related paraphernalia? My bet would be that some of the revenants drop them. Maybe the Chaos Elemental does as well...

I agree with this solution EXCEPT for one thing. The immunity to ranged and magic. Ranged still has to use black armor, which lowers its stats, and black weaponry, i.e. the knives and darts. Magic also has to use black armor which DRASTICALLY lowers its stats. But a mage can use far more powerful spells such as ancients. Therefore, the Wraith should have boosted defenses against magic, but no immunity to any combat style. Edit: An easy solution to this, and all loot stealing, is to do what WoW does. The person, or team, who lands the first blow gets the loot. It doesn't matter how much damage you deal, if you weren't first, you get no loot. Umm, that's called single way combat in Runescape. Yes. Yes it is. But multiway combat areas can be the most brutal and cutthroat areas in Runescape. Does that sort of competition REALLY help our community? See, this way we can have teams, friends, or summons helping us out without other, inconsiderate jerks crashing us.

That provides a use. No, that idea, though good, would be more appropriate for Summoning. Something like a dragon or crow, that's known for hording things of a gold/shiny nature.

Dang... You're right. I SHOULD start doing that... Thanks for the tip!

Why is there only one King Black Dragon spawn? Well A. He's a venerable boss monster and was once so powerful he needed a team to take him down during the days before lootshare, B. His drops today, frankly, suck. You can get the visage from black and, I believe, metal dragons. And 3. The Wraith requires FULL BLACK armor to fight. This makes him somewhat time consuming for even the most powerful of players to fight him. So when someone else show's up, you can't overpower them with better gear. You missed my point there with the KBD. The drops of the Tormented Wraith essentially suck, yes? With the exception of one rare item: the elixir. There is a low risk when fighting this monster, and the chance at a VERY valuable reward. Compare this to another boss monster--any of your choosing--and tell me if this seems fair. The Kalphite Queen has similar drops as well, yet is more hard than the KBD, let alone the Wraith. Yes, the gear thing is a complete equalizer across the combat levels, but prayer completely nullifies the risk. An inventory of prayer potions and one could stay there many hours and make a decent amount of money even WITHOUT an elixir drop. I tried my luck there, and I made 100k an hour. My friend tried his luck there and made 200k+ an hour. All with little risk. Even killing Green Dragons, which are a lower level and far more weak, are more dangerous simply because of it's environment. There is nothing, truly, that makes the Tormented Wraith particularly dangerous. He hits hard, but not fast enough to KO someone. All of these are beside the point, though. I'm sorry for getting off topic. My suggestion to add onto the OT's topic was that they should investigate ways to make this NPC a little more difficult, so people weren't able to camp there quite as long. Harder to camp = more of a chance you could find an open world. Crashers, however, can't be avoided. I won't even venture a guess at how to stop it. O_O I see your point, but having him hit through prayer, at least I think, would make him TOO powerful. Practically every other monster doesn't do this- the only one I can think of is the Corporeal Beast. Maybe, instead, he could use all three attack forms? And he could switch between them without an animation. Suddenly, you'll only have a one in three chance of blocking him, although he may favor one style. Or he could drain prayer, even when he doesn't hit. That way you couldn't stay as long.

I can see it now: You: "Excuse me, I wish to slay you and your brethren; may I request entrance into this tent so I may do so? I'm willing to pay 50 gp..." Bandit: "50 gp?!? HOT DAMN!!!" Although considering Runescape's owners, it'd be "50 gp?!? Hot ****!!!"

Why is there only one King Black Dragon spawn? Well A. He's a venerable boss monster and was once so powerful he needed a team to take him down during the days before lootshare, B. His drops today, frankly, suck. You can get the visage from black and, I believe, metal dragons. And 3. The Wraith requires FULL BLACK armor to fight. This makes him somewhat time consuming for even the most powerful of players to fight him. So when someone else show's up, you can't overpower them with better gear.

You'd be surprised. Most games that do this focus too much on the money than the actual players and game content, so its just for income, and really makes the game suck. This just goes to show that Jagex still does worry about the community. Or, judging by the comments of this thread, they know that they'd lose a MASSIVE chunk of their player base. Far, far more than the December 10th updates, although it may have something to do with said updates. In other words, they'd appear to be HUGE hypocrites.

Jagex is breaking rule 12 by charging us for members. Thats what companies call money making..and rwt is different than what you said...get your facts straight. And that's what people with a sense of humor call a joke... being serious is different than what he said.... get YOUR facts straight.

A faster solution would, if you're mining gold for an extended period of time, go back to normal magics. Also, do Another Slice of Ham so you can use the Dorgesh-Khan and Keldagrim train.

I agree with this solution EXCEPT for one thing. The immunity to ranged and magic. Ranged still has to use black armor, which lowers its stats, and black weaponry, i.e. the knives and darts. Magic also has to use black armor which DRASTICALLY lowers its stats. But a mage can use far more powerful spells such as ancients. Therefore, the Wraith should have boosted defenses against magic, but no immunity to any combat style. Then you can safe-spot it all day and things are imbalanced. Also, ranged with black knives, ranger boots, and an accumulator kills faster than max melee + piety using a black scim and Salve. It's either remove the safe-spots or give it immunity to distance attacks. Haven't been to visit him, so I didn't know about the safe-spot. But couldn't you, instead of immunizing him to ranged and magic, give him a distance attack more powerful than his melee that he only uses if you're not up close and personal? They've done it with Cockroaches...

I agree with this solution EXCEPT for one thing. The immunity to ranged and magic. Ranged still has to use black armor, which lowers its stats, and black weaponry, i.e. the knives and darts. Magic also has to use black armor which DRASTICALLY lowers its stats. But a mage can use far more powerful spells such as ancients. Therefore, the Wraith should have boosted defenses against magic, but no immunity to any combat style. Edit: An easy solution to this, and all loot stealing, is to do what WoW does. The person, or team, who lands the first blow gets the loot. It doesn't matter how much damage you deal, if you weren't first, you get no loot.

But two negatives DO... ARRRGH!!! I'VE BEEN SMOTE!

If anything, you're ranting about how crappy customer support is. I agree. We don't need a full list of swear words though. It doesn't serve much of a point at all. The rule is called Offensive Language. Isn't that enough? I've always wondered: If there's offensive language, than there should be Defensive Language. But I've never encountered it. If it does exist, what would it entail? Being painstakingly polite in such a manner that infuriates another?

I've done that too, but I still cry crocodile tears... Someone needs to grow thicker skin, ;) What, like elephant skin? Or dragon hide? Be specific, man!

I don't think it's that easy. First of all, there's the payment of the staff. Then there is the servers that need to be paid, kept up-to-date with hardware and stuff like that so they can handle the amount of players. Believe me when I say that those kind of dedicated servers are NOT cheap. They probably also have to pay a [cabbage]load of taxes, they probably have some copyrights and other stuff like that. IF Jagex really made that much money, do you think they would have increased the membership price...? I don't think so. Life isn't as cheap as you think. I specified that that was profit, not income. That's what the company makes AFTER expenses.

I've done that too, but I still cry crocodile tears...

But I was uder the assumption that Jagex makes a large profit, i.e. several million, and could afford to increase their staff? After all, how many businesses that make 3 million plus have just 200 employees? This article was... decent. The topic was good and it was fairly well written, but I'm disappointed that there was no mention of emergent gameplay, which I believe Jagex frowns upon. Other companies and game producers encourage it, from Will Wright and Sid Meier to Blizzard and Bungee. Of course, you could make the argument that creating an efficient suicide method with Bowser smash B, developing swarm tactics for the zerg, or finding some way to make a perfect duplicate of Charles Darwin on Spore somewhat different than exploiting terrain or game features that the developers never thought of in an MMORPG are two very different things, but I believe that Jagex doesn't like emergent gameplay simply because it reduces their control of the game. Look at the GE. If that's taught us anything, it's that Jagex likes themselves some control.

I remember the good ole days, back when bread was free and three gp'd buy you monster huntin supplies fer a month!

Maybe it's just me, but I think it's pathetic when you need to ignore a mini game's rules to succeed in it. It's like making a lot of noise, wearing vivid red or blue clothing, and purposely REFUSING to use cover to win your wars...

I just had to point that out. When you have items frozen for months, items used as junk to trade these items for the market value, and Jagex setting the price for new ones, how many prices are sane?

Let me present you with a scenario. Someone quits because of the RWT updates. They then come here and urge everyone to quit because they did themselves. Know what happens? The thread could then be used to heat quite a large building. This is pretty much the same thing only without the RWT updates. But you guys are congratulating him for telling you what to do. I don't understand it. Maybe he thinks that it was a great decision to quit, and maybe it was for him. But why should I quit just because he thinks Runescape is an addiction? I've quit a few times. I've come back. But I've never quit because someone else told me too and I've never told anyone else to quit either.

I laughed at the combat triangle wallpaper. The combat triangle is almost non-existent and what exists is a broken, battered, bloody shell of its former self.

Ere, that there part about kicking old bad habits, well I like my bad habits. I play RS, WoW, Spore, and DnD. I read Science-fiction and fantasy novels. Even if I were to quit Runescape in college, with a completely clean slate, nothing much would change. So, cheers to bad or, more correctly, nerdy habits!

In classic (when supers where first released) if you examined them they said %'s on how much they increased your level by. If I remember rightly Supers where "20%" of your level and Regular where "12.5%" of your level. Wow, that's interesting, I'd never heard of that before. I wonder why they changed it... It's because Jagex believes the less you know, the better.