DRUMINATOR17

Best post of this thread. =D> Might try this later, As I remember wondering why I picked up my charms / loot / armor in the order I picked them up (spam clicking ftw) when I died at KBD the other day (remember, never lag if you decide to be a tele tubby noob when fighting a freshly spawned KBD at 40 hp , no food and no anti poison... :lol: ). But I think I remember the 64 Crimsons being the first things that were picked up after various armor parts. :-k Other then that I would argre roughly with what sseli posted, although maybe around 10k not 12k a blue charm. As for everyone doing the math, even though you might get it right one way or another, figure the 1k to 3k extra you would have to tack on there as well as afterall the person did you a favor and are selling you the charms, for you to just collect and go straight to work in this hypothetical situation.

What amazes me most about all of this is the fact that so many of you all are so thrilled about filling up your books when they were cheap. Sure it was great to do it back then, but I mean come on, honestly I really dont see why people are wanting to pay such crazy prices for god pages to fill their books now when there are just as many easier / cheaper / better things out there to fill in that spot. Take a rune defender for example in place of where most people would use a zammy book, or a mages book takes the cake if you are training range, and considering the prices you would be paying for a zammy book set now its easily worth it. The only real reason one should even want a god book now is for its prayer bonus, which comes with all the books without having the pages in them. However, as for all the junk trading many people have mixed views on it and I am one of them as well. Many people dont realize the true art form behind making junk trades and as a result are hardly making much more off that junk trade then whatever the people are selling the item for orginally. Not that much of this matters anyways, I would say at the rate things are going, the better forms of junk trading (the kinds that actually net decent profit) will be dead and a thing of the past soon enough. So get what you can out of them now, I for one know that I will, afterall, it may be sad that making Junk can be easier / faster / and net several times more then runecrafting right now at any level, double nats included.

Your about as pro as they come now it looks like, well...That is of course if we are not counting myself... ;) :lol: Keep it up

:lol: Ya, I know the flaming had to be unbearable at times, I had untrimmed hp as well right before 2000 total and man people never let up on me. :cry: Amazing work right there, good too see your not gonna stop at that 1 cape / 1 99 however, just a matter of time before you level it as well. =D> As for everyone else, its not really that hard to put 2 and 2 together and come up with 4. People generally dont go this far out of their way to do something this hard to be the 'one of many others' or whatever you are all claiming in your pathetic attempts to say he isnt the only lvl 137 out there with an untrimmed cape. Guess someones gotta come along now and say that more people have untrimmed slayer capes right now then Slayerbelle, and anas 0 throne. Or even go so far as to say that theres more Lorica's untrimmed Summoning cape out there too. Guess I am glad I can add 2 plus 2 and get 4.

Congrats on 18m Range man. =D> I recently just hit 18m Range myself, just it wasnt all from ranging miths though, so you win. :mrgreen: Looking forward to seeing us both hopefully hit 20m range around the same time too I hope. :mrgreen:

I so expected this like a few of the others, mainly because I looked at your name and cheated however. :-# Congrats on all you have done and will continue to do on this account, its almost a shame that you will decide to lose the trim later on, but as I had mentioned in previous threads of yours I would have wound up doing the same exact thing after a little while. Good to see people wanting to play the game there way despite all the flames they may get when their cape loses its trim. :-#

Tell me about it!1!!1 :evil: Ya, but in your defence, that 6th kill seems to always be lucky for me too, back to back duo arma trips with hilt splits on the 6th kills. :lol: Grats bud.

Way to not realize he sold it to me already j35u5. :lol: Fail. :thumbdown: Fail for you both for getting hilts. :thumbdown: I will get one soon enough, thats the only part of godwars it seems that I have slack luck on. Working on around 550 solo zils atm. :cry: 2 Swords though so least she is learning how to drop stuff past half dozen trips. Have fun with monies, shoulda kept ags btw, it rents out like a pro.

Lol 79.4 On the front page for me, that was when I was still a combat noob before summoning I see. :lol: Got a handful of skilling levels and basically all the combat ones since. The same 2150 total ive been for almost 2 months / 24 skills = 89.583

Good call, all the cool kids have them nowadays. :lol: Good to know you back by the way.. :mrgreen: P.S. (53m splits > 50.5m splits) ;)

See noone believed me, but judging by the looks of that picture you also got your egg in under 20 Kills? AMIRITE?!?! Grats again matey =D> I should have got a red one too, and maybe I will, hate using summona though, and you know I cbfed to kill things off task outside of GWD. :lol: Drum

eh i know i have gotten atleast that, metal dragons have been out for years, its not that hard to rack up the kills and exp if you visit them frequently :] Eh, whats even harder for me to believe is that out of 20k Metal dragons and lets just assume that they were all iron dragons, that he only got about 500k hp exp that wasnt on task or at metal dragons. Yet he only got a pair of dragon legs that whole time. All I am saying is that I think that it is safe to say with Lysol accuracy (99.9% certain that is) that your 20k Metal Dragons killed is not really all that accurate. Just seems odd for roughly only 136k of your Hp exp to come from things other then metals and slayer. However, congrats on the drop, with how common and low priced they are it makes me skip my metals tasks sometimes, unfortunately. Usually cant turn down the shot at another visage. :mrgreen: 'Slay on'

Rolly eye emote???!?!?! Thats it, not lending my ags stuffs away anymore. :roll: :lol: Keep up the good work. :)

Darn straight, just think about how much of a massively rewarding quest RFD was, with the introduction of the barrows gloves that completely and totally blew anything we had at the time out of the water by almost 10 times the stats of what we had as our 'best gloves'. A quest that dominates RFD in terms of length, development, and most problably rewards as well, I too am extremely eagerly awaiting this quest and its rewards my friend with the smelly feet.

Your Dam Right! Or at least I sure hope we will be allowed to dominate with our familairs Never really thought about how much I could have beasted in pking or in bounty hunter with or without the ability to use my familiars...but now that this comes out, and now that I am thinking about the potential...getting a bit hyped. :lol: Maybe a reason for me to get those last 9 prayer levels and fully maxed combat stats. :mrgreen: Like, actually, now that I think about it, the destruction that one can deal if you will be able to use everything / fight 'any and everywhere' if thats a multi combat zone..... 5 Steel titan specs along with 4 Dds Specs, dont think thats possible to live through. :lol:

Eh, I just have a bank tab for all capes, maybe I will do that. :lol: I still remember that day in chat with the epic dfs fail. You got gfed hardcore. :-# And of course, you still spend / spent way to much on skills, gotta get you to talk to pharonix or w/e his name is, youve easily had all the money for all 99s by now im sure. :lol: :-#

Looks like a decent update all around for the runecrafting skill, from a quick early on glance. However, it brings many questions now with its arrival. How much faster will it make training runecrafting? Weather it be using the new mini game for points / gear / experience, using the new runecrafting teleportation tabs to zip right to the altars for much faster trips to and fro from altar to bank. Also, the runecrafting robes that will add onto your runecrafting level (although it reads as though it will only stack on your runecrafting level while in the mini game to move orbs further) that could perhaps allow for doubling runes several levels below the old level required to craft. All that (and whatever else I missed) on top of what one can only expect to happen, that is slight or extreme price changes in the things that are all runecrafting related, be it pure ess, or rune prices. Discuss all that jazz and whatever else you can think of that this update might bring to the table while the skill of runecrafting hopefully adjusts to its changes as people may train it now with less of a boredom factor to keep them from wanting to stop every five minutes.

And of course the low level 50 requirement doesnt surprise me, however being for free to play also I suppose that gives them something to shoot for. Does not look like a bad update, havent had a chance to play it yet, but we shall see how it turns out.

Well, well, well then. Congratulations. You have just lost your spot on my friends list for not only are you not bill cosby irl like i always thought you were, I could have lived with that....but you dont like puddin' pops?!??~!?! [/friendship.] Nice st00f though hawtie

Where did you hear that? Just a thought Based on Herbore Skill guide on tip.it Super Stat Restore does this: Restores all stats to maximum level (except HP and Summoning) as well as some prayer. The KB is full of incorrect information... even J-Mods except for Paul and Andrew have no idea what they're talking about anymore. Super restores restore summoning - try it I don't get the point of this thread... yes if there were obelisk restrictions or w/e then summoning potions would possibly go up in price. but that's never going to happen since that's what it used to be like before the mini-obelisks. even if it did happened... what's the point in discussing it? if they moved every tree into RS into a cave which you can only go into once a week, do you think the price of logs would go up? discuss. Perhaps, it really just depends. Would they be making new trees as well to put into these caves you can only access 4 times a month? Either way, I will still think that they would rise in price! Anyone else think that im right? Discuss. [hide=]Lol[/hide]

They have no need to go back up to where they were due to the fact that super restores now give summoning points as well. The reason they rose to start with was people were finding out how useful summoning was when you were getting higher levels early on. Then the second update came around and they dropped in price when they added the oblisks everywhere and a half like we see now, as there was hardly a need for them then. However, as people started to level up again and summoning started being used much more often by everyone as it had been out for some time now we recieved the addition of summoning points added to super restore potions about 2 weeks ago now I believe. Thus as a result, there is hardly a need for summoning potions anymore, as they can be replaced with a super restore potion on trips to godwars or even on trips to prayer tasks for slayer. Their only real use now is just for skilling with familiars, which most spots are usually somewhat close to an oblisk as it anyways. Thus, do not expect them to rise in price again until such a random update like you mentioned in your example happens.

Nice work there buddy, been soloing arma a few trips since they 'updated zilly' even though it didnt do much for soloing her, if anything made it easier. But ya, i got 6 and 7 kills a trip, just have aweful luck when it comes to hitting :lol: I personally will prolly stick to soloing zilly :lol: Just because I am a noob and like getting 2 times more kills on half the supplies. Even though both trips take ages lol. Ya, duoing with yaks is epic monies though, im not gonna lie. :mrgreen: Maybe they lowered the drop rate but i think yak increases it, and less people too, but im superstitious. :lol:

As I mentioned earlier, it hardly surprises me that people have this as one of their common misconceptions of many monsters and slayer monsters that are not commonly slayed. Praying range will never prevent the damage from them seeing as how they DO NOT HAVE A RANGED ATTACK. Merely their breath attack and their melee attack.

Eh I suppose I could see where not many people know about this. However your best option has always been taking prossy and melee praying and using piety to speed right through them. Tasks are always doable in one trip now as long as you have a decent summoning level, 2 trips needed for those without a yak/tort and a pony. Perhaps people with lower level summoning could do a whole wyverns task in one trip like this using just a tort and bunyip, but thats something I have yet to see. But yes, wyverns have just as much of a range attack as the king black dragon does, which is to say that they dont have one.

Basically bobthesock and the fella above me david have said. Many many more people now seem to realize how great a skill slayer is and especially in terms of slaying for their charms to use in leveling up the usually pretty pricey skill that summoning is otherwise, for example if you burst/barrage rock lobsters. The saying time is money always applies and is always brought up when people refer to all sorts of topics such as these. The fact that your able to do your tasks at a lets just say (20%) faster speed by being able to use a whip + dfs/def at the same time just is amazing. Not to mention that now with some of the newer armors and items like dragon fire shields and the newer boosted slayer helmets defence the defence bonus that you have in your actual slaying gear can easily surpass that of what you have with your guthans set out. Also on to what david mentioned, a pony can easily surpass guthans while at godwards and dag kings. If anything the better argument is which is better, guthans or bunyip, as pony easily can surpass guthans, there is hardly much of a contest there. A unicorn is a whopping 21 hitpoints a minute regenerated with the restore rate of famliars special energy points. Mind you your staying in your best defence gear / shield still equipped, and are able to engage in the form of combat that you are using the whole time without having to switch out to meleeing whatever while you use a pony, unlike you would with guthans. EDIT: forgot my main point, lol. But yes, guthans is dropping like one can expect it to do so for a bit till it settles at its new price, however it will still remain the most expensive barrows set, which quite frankly, isnt saying all that much about barrows as a whole at their current prices. Their is still some use for the set, but it is highly limited, and quite frankly not worth it in the long run which is why we are seeing the continuing decline in its price now that many more people are achieving 68 and 88 summoning in the just shy of 7 months that the skill has been out for.